comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted about 2 hours ago
Just read the Reform manifesto. It’s actually pretty good in fairness to them. Not that I agree with anything other than 5% of what they’re saying nor do I think they can back up any of their promises but in terms of being simple and appealing to the brainless voter out there who needs something to get excited by in a world where the tories and labour seem like two cheeks of the same ass it’s quite alluring. Might just make them a minor force in the elections.
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The IFS analysis of it.
https://ifs.org.uk/articles/reform-uk-manifesto-reaction
'Spending reductions would save less than stated, and the tax cuts would cost more than stated, by a margin of tens of billions of pounds per year. Meanwhile the spending increases would cost more than stated if they are to achieve their objectives.'
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It’s absolute baloney, it really is.
The problem is that a not insignificant proportion of those whom Reform are chasing won’t even be able to spell ‘manifesto’, let alone worry about what one is.
And a further swathe won’t care as they’re only interested in registering their protest vote against what they see is as an unconservative and/or failing Conservative Party.
Reform could drop any old populist nonsense in there really. And they have.
Reform may as well claim they'll abolish Income Tax and build another 500 hospitals and a 1,000 new schools in the next 5 years if they get elected.
It's like me saying I'll give everyone on ja606 £1m if I become a Trillionaire before the end of the decade.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours ago
Reform may as well claim they'll abolish Income Tax and build another 500 hospitals and a 1,000 new schools in the next 5 years if they get elected.
It's like me saying I'll give everyone on ja606 £1m if I become a Trillionaire before the end of the decade.
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Man Cs* beecame gazillionares overnite when the head-loppers bort em n begin there campane of cheetin
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted about 2 hours ago
Just wait until we start using neural links with animals and giving them speech. That's a Pandora's box that is gonna cause some real reassessment of our approach to food and animal welfare. 😬
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That would be brilliant, I'd love to know what my cats are on about.
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted on 23/10/17
Rabbits have turf wars? lol I thought they all lived together and just banged all day
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Sorry to bring football to the thread but I think this ties in with wider politics.
Across socials I keep seeing videos of various nations fans at the Euro's in Germany. There's the Scots fans playing bagpipes and having a laugh. Or thousands of Dutch fans bouncing right to left arm in arm. Then there's England fans. OK there's the odd video that's funny, 'you're shiite but yer birds are fit' to Swedish fans. Sadly this is followed by 5 videos of '10 German bombers'
Why do we have to portray ourselves internationally as cvnts? I mean the people singing it, at best, had grandparents who fought in the war. To them it's something glorified on film or through abstract stories told by grandparents.
It just comes across as a bunch of EDL knobheads on a beano abroad making us look shiite to the rest of the watching world. Similar to tragedy chanting in the PL isn't it time for a campaign to stop songs like 10 German bombers etc. Perhaps understand it may not he seen as harmless bants to other nations. Not to mention current events geopolitically and singing about bombing just being crass.
Anyway rant over
Father's day in Gaza
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxupEJ_19S514H5GIsRPqV5WsyAePMgd4e?si=wt92b6ohRNGCO8Zs
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
Sorry to bring football to the thread but I think this ties in with wider politics.
Across socials I keep seeing videos of various nations fans at the Euro's in Germany. There's the Scots fans playing bagpipes and having a laugh. Or thousands of Dutch fans bouncing right to left arm in arm. Then there's England fans. OK there's the odd video that's funny, 'you're shiite but yer birds are fit' to Swedish fans. Sadly this is followed by 5 videos of '10 German bombers'
Why do we have to portray ourselves internationally as cvnts? I mean the people singing it, at best, had grandparents who fought in the war. To them it's something glorified on film or through abstract stories told by grandparents.
It just comes across as a bunch of EDL knobheads on a beano abroad making us look shiite to the rest of the watching world. Similar to tragedy chanting in the PL isn't it time for a campaign to stop songs like 10 German bombers etc. Perhaps understand it may not he seen as harmless bants to other nations. Not to mention current events geopolitically and singing about bombing just being crass.
Anyway rant over
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Because your averge Ingeeerlishh football fan abroad doing this type of thing on the streets abroad during tournaments is usually very dense, ill-educated, xenophobic, socially inadequate and under intense peer pressure..... and very, very drunk.
Thousands of England fans go to the big tournaments and only a small minority are total knobheads.
The media aren’t really interested in family groups who enjoy the experience without causing any trouble or insulting the locals
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Thousands of England fans go to the big tournaments and only a small minority are total knobheads.
The media aren’t really interested in family groups who enjoy the experience without causing any trouble or insulting the locals
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This isn't the media, it's mostly on socials. I'm sure the algorithm on various platforms isn't set to 'portray England fans as knobheads compared to other nations'.
Maybe it's my age, not that old but old enough, but I just think the examples of the Dutch & Scots' fans looks fun and a good laugh compared to chants based on war and vitriol.
I've seen videos of Scottish fans talking with German fans about how they have a common enemy. I don't think it's just limited to England fans, it's just the videos of the idiot England fans are more likely to go viral through either rage bait or being shared by other morons here.
It's party time for most of the english fans, it's just those with little nubbins that act like they're billy big bollox and they are embarrassing. It's a shame that all English fans all get tarnished by the minority who cannot handle their bevvy and allow their inferiority complex come to the fore.
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history .
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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Must be a Reform candidate
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 13 hours, 30 minutes ago
The UK’s main stock market retook its crown as Europe’s most valuable for the first time in nearly two years, data shows.
The total value of companies listed on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) hit $3.18tn on Monday, overtaking the $3.13tn total value of companies listed in Paris, according to Bloomberg data.
Brexit Britain
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France has just called an unexpected snap election. That does things to your trading.
You might want to take a look at what the LSE’s total market capitalisation looks like now vs 2015, and then measure that against how New York, Paris and Frankfurt have performed.
Or read this: https://www.fdiintelligence.com/content/data-trends/the-london-stock-exchanges-star-fades-83429
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 13 hours, 30 minutes ago
The UK’s main stock market retook its crown as Europe’s most valuable for the first time in nearly two years, data shows.
The total value of companies listed on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) hit $3.18tn on Monday, overtaking the $3.13tn total value of companies listed in Paris, according to Bloomberg data.
Brexit Britain
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France has just called an unexpected snap election. That does things to your trading.
You might want to take a look at what the LSE’s total market capitalisation looks like now vs 2015, and then measure that against how New York, Paris and Frankfurt have performed.
Or read this: https://www.fdiintelligence.com/content/data-trends/the-london-stock-exchanges-star-fades-83429
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His brain just exploded trying to read that link.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 52 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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He was obviously referring to Bolesław the Generous lending his troops to Danish king Sweyn II Estridsson for the ransacking of York in 1069.
He's done you up like a kipper (or more likely a pickled herring) there Boris.
Boris was never the smartest cookie in the jar tbh.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 52 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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He was obviously referring to Bolesław the Generous lending his troops to Danish king Sweyn II Estridsson for the ransacking of York in 1069.
He's done you up like a kipper (or more likely a pickled herring) there Boris.
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I doubt he could point out Poland on a map even if it was highlighted in red with arrows pointing to it
"Your tax proposals help someone who is richer more than someone who is poorer"
Ed Balls calls out Nigel Farage who then has a meltdown
https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1802988220210155661?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
3 kids missing since around 3pm yesterday leaving Thorpe Park in Surrey aged 14, 9, and 7.
That's quite a lot of responsibility for the 14 year old, lets hope they are found safe asap.
More people in the UK think immigration has a negative impact on society compared to a positive one, according to a new survey carried out by YouGov exclusively for Sky News.
Across the UK, 43% of people asked thought that immigration has a negative impact on British society, compared to 35% who said it has a positive impact.
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 7 minutes ago
More people in the UK think immigration has a negative impact on society compared to a positive one, according to a new survey carried out by YouGov exclusively for Sky News.
Across the UK, 43% of people asked thought that immigration has a negative impact on British society, compared to 35% who said it has a positive impact.
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Let's take a complex issue and boil it down into a straight yes or no / for or against polarised debate.
Pretty standard these days. Polarise the electorate with simplified arguments and then wonder why political discourse is at its lowest levels and far right ideologies become more prominent.
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posted on 17/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted about 2 hours ago
Just read the Reform manifesto. It’s actually pretty good in fairness to them. Not that I agree with anything other than 5% of what they’re saying nor do I think they can back up any of their promises but in terms of being simple and appealing to the brainless voter out there who needs something to get excited by in a world where the tories and labour seem like two cheeks of the same ass it’s quite alluring. Might just make them a minor force in the elections.
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The IFS analysis of it.
https://ifs.org.uk/articles/reform-uk-manifesto-reaction
'Spending reductions would save less than stated, and the tax cuts would cost more than stated, by a margin of tens of billions of pounds per year. Meanwhile the spending increases would cost more than stated if they are to achieve their objectives.'
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It’s absolute baloney, it really is.
The problem is that a not insignificant proportion of those whom Reform are chasing won’t even be able to spell ‘manifesto’, let alone worry about what one is.
And a further swathe won’t care as they’re only interested in registering their protest vote against what they see is as an unconservative and/or failing Conservative Party.
Reform could drop any old populist nonsense in there really. And they have.
posted on 17/6/24
*what they see as
posted on 17/6/24
Reform may as well claim they'll abolish Income Tax and build another 500 hospitals and a 1,000 new schools in the next 5 years if they get elected.
It's like me saying I'll give everyone on ja606 £1m if I become a Trillionaire before the end of the decade.
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 2 hours ago
Reform may as well claim they'll abolish Income Tax and build another 500 hospitals and a 1,000 new schools in the next 5 years if they get elected.
It's like me saying I'll give everyone on ja606 £1m if I become a Trillionaire before the end of the decade.
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Man Cs* beecame gazillionares overnite when the head-loppers bort em n begin there campane of cheetin
posted on 18/6/24
Reform
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted about 11 hours ago
comment by Admin1 (U1)
posted about 2 hours ago
Just wait until we start using neural links with animals and giving them speech. That's a Pandora's box that is gonna cause some real reassessment of our approach to food and animal welfare. 😬
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That would be brilliant, I'd love to know what my cats are on about.
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posted on 18/6/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted on 23/10/17
Rabbits have turf wars? lol I thought they all lived together and just banged all day
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posted on 18/6/24
Sorry to bring football to the thread but I think this ties in with wider politics.
Across socials I keep seeing videos of various nations fans at the Euro's in Germany. There's the Scots fans playing bagpipes and having a laugh. Or thousands of Dutch fans bouncing right to left arm in arm. Then there's England fans. OK there's the odd video that's funny, 'you're shiite but yer birds are fit' to Swedish fans. Sadly this is followed by 5 videos of '10 German bombers'
Why do we have to portray ourselves internationally as cvnts? I mean the people singing it, at best, had grandparents who fought in the war. To them it's something glorified on film or through abstract stories told by grandparents.
It just comes across as a bunch of EDL knobheads on a beano abroad making us look shiite to the rest of the watching world. Similar to tragedy chanting in the PL isn't it time for a campaign to stop songs like 10 German bombers etc. Perhaps understand it may not he seen as harmless bants to other nations. Not to mention current events geopolitically and singing about bombing just being crass.
Anyway rant over
posted on 18/6/24
Father's day in Gaza
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxupEJ_19S514H5GIsRPqV5WsyAePMgd4e?si=wt92b6ohRNGCO8Zs
posted on 18/6/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 minutes ago
Sorry to bring football to the thread but I think this ties in with wider politics.
Across socials I keep seeing videos of various nations fans at the Euro's in Germany. There's the Scots fans playing bagpipes and having a laugh. Or thousands of Dutch fans bouncing right to left arm in arm. Then there's England fans. OK there's the odd video that's funny, 'you're shiite but yer birds are fit' to Swedish fans. Sadly this is followed by 5 videos of '10 German bombers'
Why do we have to portray ourselves internationally as cvnts? I mean the people singing it, at best, had grandparents who fought in the war. To them it's something glorified on film or through abstract stories told by grandparents.
It just comes across as a bunch of EDL knobheads on a beano abroad making us look shiite to the rest of the watching world. Similar to tragedy chanting in the PL isn't it time for a campaign to stop songs like 10 German bombers etc. Perhaps understand it may not he seen as harmless bants to other nations. Not to mention current events geopolitically and singing about bombing just being crass.
Anyway rant over
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Because your averge Ingeeerlishh football fan abroad doing this type of thing on the streets abroad during tournaments is usually very dense, ill-educated, xenophobic, socially inadequate and under intense peer pressure..... and very, very drunk.
posted on 18/6/24
Thousands of England fans go to the big tournaments and only a small minority are total knobheads.
The media aren’t really interested in family groups who enjoy the experience without causing any trouble or insulting the locals
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Thousands of England fans go to the big tournaments and only a small minority are total knobheads.
The media aren’t really interested in family groups who enjoy the experience without causing any trouble or insulting the locals
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This isn't the media, it's mostly on socials. I'm sure the algorithm on various platforms isn't set to 'portray England fans as knobheads compared to other nations'.
Maybe it's my age, not that old but old enough, but I just think the examples of the Dutch & Scots' fans looks fun and a good laugh compared to chants based on war and vitriol.
posted on 18/6/24
I've seen videos of Scottish fans talking with German fans about how they have a common enemy. I don't think it's just limited to England fans, it's just the videos of the idiot England fans are more likely to go viral through either rage bait or being shared by other morons here.
posted on 18/6/24
It's party time for most of the english fans, it's just those with little nubbins that act like they're billy big bollox and they are embarrassing. It's a shame that all English fans all get tarnished by the minority who cannot handle their bevvy and allow their inferiority complex come to the fore.
posted on 18/6/24
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history .
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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Must be a Reform candidate
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 13 hours, 30 minutes ago
The UK’s main stock market retook its crown as Europe’s most valuable for the first time in nearly two years, data shows.
The total value of companies listed on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) hit $3.18tn on Monday, overtaking the $3.13tn total value of companies listed in Paris, according to Bloomberg data.
Brexit Britain
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France has just called an unexpected snap election. That does things to your trading.
You might want to take a look at what the LSE’s total market capitalisation looks like now vs 2015, and then measure that against how New York, Paris and Frankfurt have performed.
Or read this: https://www.fdiintelligence.com/content/data-trends/the-london-stock-exchanges-star-fades-83429
posted on 18/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 13 hours, 30 minutes ago
The UK’s main stock market retook its crown as Europe’s most valuable for the first time in nearly two years, data shows.
The total value of companies listed on the London Stock Exchange (LSE) hit $3.18tn on Monday, overtaking the $3.13tn total value of companies listed in Paris, according to Bloomberg data.
Brexit Britain
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France has just called an unexpected snap election. That does things to your trading.
You might want to take a look at what the LSE’s total market capitalisation looks like now vs 2015, and then measure that against how New York, Paris and Frankfurt have performed.
Or read this: https://www.fdiintelligence.com/content/data-trends/the-london-stock-exchanges-star-fades-83429
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His brain just exploded trying to read that link.
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 52 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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He was obviously referring to Bolesław the Generous lending his troops to Danish king Sweyn II Estridsson for the ransacking of York in 1069.
He's done you up like a kipper (or more likely a pickled herring) there Boris.
posted on 18/6/24
Boris was never the smartest cookie in the jar tbh.
posted on 18/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 52 minutes ago
Totally agree about certain chants, they literally make me cringe.
I may have mentioned this before but I went to watch England play Poland at Old Trafford and the bloke next to me. Was urging people to boo the Polish National Anthem on the grounds of “We fought a war against these baaastards”
I pointed out that the Poles were out allies in the war, he told me I knew fek all about history.
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He was obviously referring to Bolesław the Generous lending his troops to Danish king Sweyn II Estridsson for the ransacking of York in 1069.
He's done you up like a kipper (or more likely a pickled herring) there Boris.
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I doubt he could point out Poland on a map even if it was highlighted in red with arrows pointing to it
posted on 18/6/24
"Your tax proposals help someone who is richer more than someone who is poorer"
Ed Balls calls out Nigel Farage who then has a meltdown
https://x.com/implausibleblog/status/1802988220210155661?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
posted on 18/6/24
3 kids missing since around 3pm yesterday leaving Thorpe Park in Surrey aged 14, 9, and 7.
That's quite a lot of responsibility for the 14 year old, lets hope they are found safe asap.
posted on 18/6/24
More people in the UK think immigration has a negative impact on society compared to a positive one, according to a new survey carried out by YouGov exclusively for Sky News.
Across the UK, 43% of people asked thought that immigration has a negative impact on British society, compared to 35% who said it has a positive impact.
posted on 18/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 7 minutes ago
More people in the UK think immigration has a negative impact on society compared to a positive one, according to a new survey carried out by YouGov exclusively for Sky News.
Across the UK, 43% of people asked thought that immigration has a negative impact on British society, compared to 35% who said it has a positive impact.
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Let's take a complex issue and boil it down into a straight yes or no / for or against polarised debate.
Pretty standard these days. Polarise the electorate with simplified arguments and then wonder why political discourse is at its lowest levels and far right ideologies become more prominent.
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