Don't know, not seen it in action yet.

Scrap it.

Wrong decisions are part of the game. Sometimes a very enjoyable part

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There will still be some wrong decisions to be fair, how much are some penalties or sending offs debated by pundits after half an hour of replays from different angles? The VAR ref will still only have about 10 seconds worth.

I think too much fuss has been made about it to be honest, and the whole waiting around for the VAR referee to make a decision is overplayed.

It should be there only as a back up if the on pitch ref is genuinely unsure of something, a quick look on a replay and a 10 second discussion through his earpiece and then the decision is made.

I am 100% against it. Decisions go for and against every team. It's a talking point and a discussion in the pub.

It's a mess in Italy, i can't speak about it in Germany but in Serie A it takes ages, it's boring and games end up having like 9 minutes of stoppage time at the end. Don't like it and I don't think the game needs it.

Should leave the game as it is.

What's the scope of the VAR then? Any decision can be reviewed at the referees discretion?

Players already surround the ref, will only happen even more now for every decision against them trying to get him to check it.

I would rather VAR decision are made by another referee, not the one on the pitch.

What's the scope of the VAR then? Any decision can be reviewed at the referees discretion?

if the ref is unsure of a decision then he pops over to the television by the fourth official and reviews the replays.

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic 🐍 (U5291)
posted 26 seconds ago
I would rather VAR decision are made by another referee, not the one on the pitch.
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Is that not what happens?

I thought he would be fed the info, not go over to watch the footage himself...

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic 🐍 (U5291)
posted 38 seconds ago
I would rather VAR decision are made by another referee, not the one on the pitch.
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good shout, the fourth official should be the one reviewing it and telling the ref via the headset what he thinks.

Apparently the ref making the decisions tonight isn’t even at the game. He’s watching a Tv somewhere else

comment by Robb Woodward 🎬⚽️⭐️ (U21234)
posted 44 seconds ago
Apparently the ref making the decisions tonight isn’t even at the game. He’s watching a Tv somewhere else
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At home with a beer and a pizza, watching Sky Sports? How do I apply to be the VAR guy?

My understanding of what they use in Italy/Germany is that the ref on the pitch goes and views the incident.

Is that not what is happening in England?

So what happens when a ref gives a penalty and VAR overturns the decision, does the ref continue the game where he left off or..?? Think an Italian game recently had this issue.

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic 🐍 (U5291)
posted 19 seconds ago
My understanding of what they use in Italy/Germany is that the ref on the pitch goes and views the incident.

Is that not what is happening in England?
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I don't know, not read into it, hope not though as theres no wonder it's taking ages and ruining the game there.

Apparently in Italy and Germany fans are sick of it for a combination of reasons ranging from it slowing down games to even with VAR used, decisions still are incorrect

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All anyone with any common sense has to do is look at the NFL for how long it takes and how often they still get decisions wrong.

Works fine in Holland

Helped us win the title

comment by Serial WUManiser™© - Hate Wenger, L... (U1410)
posted 3 minutes ago
So what happens when a ref gives a penalty and VAR overturns the decision, does the ref continue the game where he left off or..?? Think an Italian game recently had this issue.
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think it results in a goal kick..

How far back can you review a decision?

If someone thinks they're fouled at the edge of their own box for example, or a handball, then the opposition counter and go up and score 3 or 4 passes later? Can the ref go back on it?

Is there a set list of what decisions it is and isn't to be used for?

Mike,

This is what I found on the BBC.

VAR technology is used in three "game-changing" situations; goals, penalties and straight red cards, and can also flag up cases of mistaken identity by the referee.

Fair enough then, do think the on pitch ref should just get the info fed to him though.

The var ref in Holland sits in a tv van outside the stadium

This from Wiki.

There are 4 types of calls that can be reviewed.

Goals and whether there was a violation during the build up

Penalty decisions

Red card decisions (note that second yellow cards are not reviewable)

Mistaken identity in awarding a red or yellow card

The standard for overturning the referee's original decision is that there has been a "clear error", sometimes expanded to "clear and obvious error".

The process begins with the video assistant referee(s) and the assistant video assistant referee (AVAR) reviewing the play in question on a bank of monitors in the video operation room (VOR) with the assistance of the replay operator (RO). This can be triggered by the referee requesting the review or by the VAR conducting a "check" to see if he or she should recommend a review to the referee. If the VAR finds nothing during the check, then communication with the referee is unnecessary, which is called a "silent check".

If the VAR believes there has been a potential clear error, he or she will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either (a) change the call on the advice of the VAR or (b) conduct an on-field review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline, called the referee review area (RRA), to review the video with the help of the review assistant (RA) or (c) decide that he/she is confident in the original call and not conduct an OFR. The referee is allowed to stop play to reverse a call or conduct an OFR, but is not supposed to do so when either team is engaged in good attacking possibility.

The official signal for a video review is by the referee making the outline of a rectangle with his index fingers (indicating a video screen). This precedes both any OFR as well as any change in the original call. Players who demand a video review by making the rectangle motion are to be cautioned with a yellow card. Players who enter the area where the referee conducts an OFR are also to be cautioned with a yellow card, and team officials who do so are to be dismissed.

There are guidelines the referee and the VAR should follow in conducting a video review. For example, slow motion should only be used for "point of contact" offences, such as physical offences and handballs. Regular speed should be used to determine the intensity of an offence and whether a handball was deliberate. Reviews for goals, penalty kick decisions, and red cards for denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity cover the period back to the beginning of the "attacking possession phase" (APP), when the attacking team first gained possession of the ball or restarted play. Other reviews only cover the incident itself.

The VAR will be either a current or former referee. The VAR may be located in the stadium where the match is being played or at another location.

comment by Red pixels (U11867)
posted 22 minutes ago
I am 100% against it. Decisions go for and against every team. It's a talking point and a discussion in the pub.
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I don’t get this argument. The impact of being on the wrong end of a game changing refereeing decision can be massive. An incorrect red card especially early on ruins the game and makes it very difficult for the side on the wrong end of the decision to get something.

I don’t understand why football should be the exception when other sports use technology to assist in getting key decisions right - just because it adds to some pub chat? Really??? I remember people not wanting goal line technology in as well....

Now granted how VAR is implemented will be important. If it’s done badly and it takes ages and the ref and assistants clearly bottle overturning the decision then we are no better off

The problem with football is always going to be how a referee interprets the rules. VAR won’t change that but it gives the referee the opportunity for a second look at it. That’s got to be a good thing