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posted on 23/9/24

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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id love to see the rematch.

AJ aint retiring , he is still the biggest draw in the sport at HW.

comment by NPedro (U22712)

posted on 23/9/24

The question is less about fans - we're a reactive bunch at the best of times.

The question is whether AJ, who is incredibly rich and has enjoyed two stints as world champion, wants to keep doing this if his shot at unified champion is over.

Boxing is very dangerous — he doesn't need the money, and there's little glory left for him now — why risk getting your faced smashed in unless there's a real reward for it?

posted on 23/9/24

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 33 minutes ago
The question is less about fans - we're a reactive bunch at the best of times.

The question is whether AJ, who is incredibly rich and has enjoyed two stints as world champion, wants to keep doing this if his shot at unified champion is over.

Boxing is very dangerous — he doesn't need the money, and there's little glory left for him now — why risk getting your faced smashed in unless there's a real reward for it?
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he hasnt neded the money for years though.... as long as he gets over 20m a fight he will continue IMO

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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id love to see the rematch.

AJ aint retiring , he is still the biggest draw in the sport at HW.
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Only because of the massive amount of hype & Hearn promotion this fella has had since he won the Olympics & turned pro

On his performances since the 1st Ruiz fight he shouldn't be the biggest draw ... not by a long way

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 33 minutes ago
The question is less about fans - we're a reactive bunch at the best of times.

The question is whether AJ, who is incredibly rich and has enjoyed two stints as world champion, wants to keep doing this if his shot at unified champion is over.

Boxing is very dangerous — he doesn't need the money, and there's little glory left for him now — why risk getting your faced smashed in unless there's a real reward for it?
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he hasnt neded the money for years though.... as long as he gets over 20m a fight he will continue IMO
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The £20m punchbag.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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id love to see the rematch.

AJ aint retiring , he is still the biggest draw in the sport at HW.
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I don't think a rematch is a good idea on the basis of him getting demolished but I'd still watch it and wouldn't rule out him winning. Needs to have a far better plan than the one he and Davison came in with. Unfortunately it would have to be a more safe approach like with the Ruiz 2nd fight.

comment by NPedro (U22712)

posted on 23/9/24

Yeah I don't see how AJ wins unless he dances around the ring for 12 rounds and Dubois stockpiles the snickers bars and comes out 25 stone like Ruiz did

posted on 23/9/24

AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Why are fans always so quick to pull out the 'retirement' card?

There are still a number of fights for AJ I think could be interesting to fans - vs Miller, vs Whyte, vs Joyce even. If you're saying you wouldn't watch them, I don't believe you're a real boxing fan.
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id love to see the rematch.

AJ aint retiring , he is still the biggest draw in the sport at HW.
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I don't think a rematch is a good idea on the basis of him getting demolished but I'd still watch it and wouldn't rule out him winning. Needs to have a far better plan than the one he and Davison came in with. Unfortunately it would have to be a more safe approach like with the Ruiz 2nd fight.
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it is if he wants the quickest route to Fury and Usyk, the Fury fight is the one that prints the money still.

AJ was shocking he can do far better than that, the worry for AJ however is that Dubois is still learning !

posted on 23/9/24

Rematches are in contracts. It doesn't matter if the fight was close, it is a contractual obligation. Dubois camp obviously thought it was needed.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Rematches are in contracts. It doesn't matter if the fight was close, it is a contractual obligation. Dubois camp obviously thought it was needed.
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its not a obligation its a choice. AJ chooses to have the rematch he isnt obliged to

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Rematches are in contracts. It doesn't matter if the fight was close, it is a contractual obligation. Dubois camp obviously thought it was needed.
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its not a obligation its a choice. AJ chooses to have the rematch he isnt obliged to
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i read it's the other way around.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Dreaming of a Billsit in Dudley. Fairwell Raptor (U23088)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Rematches are in contracts. It doesn't matter if the fight was close, it is a contractual obligation. Dubois camp obviously thought it was needed.
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its not a obligation its a choice. AJ chooses to have the rematch he isnt obliged to
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i read it's the other way around.
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Na AJ had the clause, it was said its rare given that he is the challenger. I also thought that title holders could mandate a rematch clause so not sure if Daniel had that also. But AJ defo did.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
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Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
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Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
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sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.

posted on 23/9/24

If AJ continues then the fight that really interests me for him is the Wilder fight. They should have fought in their primes but at least we'd be able to say they actually fought when all is said and done. That they never fought is an absurdity to me.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 41 seconds ago
If AJ continues then the fight that really interests me for him is the Wilder fight. They should have fought in their primes but at least we'd be able to say they actually fought when all is said and done. That they never fought is an absurdity to me.
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Iv no interest in the Wilder fight, that ends in 1 or two rounds. Wilder has KO power but hasnt thrown a punch in two fights, he is done.

I want the rematch, was it an off night for AJ, or is DDD just to compact, powerful, young and quick for him.

Im fairly certain AJ will take the rematch

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 second ago
If AJ continues then the fight that really interests me for him is the Wilder fight. They should have fought in their primes but at least we'd be able to say they actually fought when all is said and done. That they never fought is an absurdity to me.
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maybe a calzaghe vs mayweather double header?

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
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Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
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sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.
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We know it's a brutal sport, nobody is denying it. And yes KO's are bad for anyone's health, that's why there have been so many calls to ban boxing over the years.

So surely that's a reason why we should show consideration allowing a rematch to happen when in the first fight one of the fighters gets his brain knocked around his skull relentlessly for five rounds.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We know it's a brutal sport, nobody is denying it. And yes KO's are bad for anyone's health, that's why there have been so many calls to ban boxing over the years.

So surely that's a reason why we should show consideration allowing a rematch to happen when in the first fight one of the fighters gets his brain knocked around his skull relentlessly for five rounds.
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Dreaming of a Billsit in Dudley. Fairwell Rapt... (U23088)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted less than a minute ago
Rematches are in contracts. It doesn't matter if the fight was close, it is a contractual obligation. Dubois camp obviously thought it was needed.
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its not a obligation its a choice. AJ chooses to have the rematch he isnt obliged to
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i read it's the other way around.
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Dubois is obliged to take it, or he loses his belt and a lot of money. It is AJ who is activating the clause.

posted on 23/9/24

comment by Dreaming of a Billsit in Dudley. Fairwell Rapt... (U23088)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 second ago
If AJ continues then the fight that really interests me for him is the Wilder fight. They should have fought in their primes but at least we'd be able to say they actually fought when all is said and done. That they never fought is an absurdity to me.
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maybe a calzaghe vs mayweather double header?
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Calzaghe vs Froch if we're going down that road lol

posted on 23/9/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ took some serious punishment. These top heavyweights hit really really hard. One punch from these guys probably gives most of us brain damage. So anyone saying AJ should jump back in with Dubois isn't really considering his wellbeing.

But as well as that since when does the challenger get two cracks at the Champion? Especially after getting absolutely murdered in the first fight? That's not how it works or certainly not how it should work.

Rematches are there for fights that are contentious or very close. This wasn't that. I think Dubois should fight the other fighter on a roll in the division Joseph Parker. Now that's a heck of a fight.
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no fan truly has the fighters well being at heart.... they are literally tuning in to watch two people damage each others brains. If we did the guys would have pillows on their hands and headguards.

We tune into watch the heavies the most as they are most likely to cause brain trauma and knock out their opponent.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well I can only speak for myself but I don't want to see any fighter badly hurt and if we can avoid that happening in this very brutal sport then we should. So when a match up shows one fighter getting dangerously pulverised by another then that's not a match up that I need to see again.

Fortunately AJ seems ok after the fight but the level of punishment and incredibly dangerous punches he was on the receiving end of I think he's lucky to walk away relatively unscathed. The ref could easily have stopped the fight well before the fifth but because it was AJ he let it continue, which in itself is extremely dangerous for the the fighter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
sorry to break this to you but getting KO'd is being badly hurt its literally damaging the brain.

Unless your claiming you dont like seeing fighters getting dropped or KO'd then its a bit contradictory.

The best fights are always the ones that wo fighter knock lumps out each other and there is no way in hell its beneficial for thier health.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We know it's a brutal sport, nobody is denying it. And yes KO's are bad for anyone's health, that's why there have been so many calls to ban boxing over the years.

So surely that's a reason why we should show consideration allowing a rematch to happen when in the first fight one of the fighters gets his brain knocked around his skull relentlessly for five rounds.
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nup thats the sport , its the name of the game damage the other person ... as long as they pass the medicals they need they know fine well what they are signing up for.

And we love it
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Not for me, this is Queensbury rules boxing, not street fighting to the death. I accept that it's a very brutal sport but I don't want to see anyone permanently hurt like we've seen too many times in this sport. As many precautions as possible need to be taken to avoid that.

posted on 23/9/24

it's modern day gladiators...glory or death in blood & sand

Spartacus & Crixus etc

only other blood sport that compares & would resonant with the Ancient Romans is ofcourse Bullfighting

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