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Does Jose think Ole is a flash in the pan?

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posted on 3/3/19

An element of both perhaps.

posted on 3/3/19

He's an expert on Fulham too it seems

posted on 3/3/19

I certainly don't think he'll keep up the current win rate for the rest of his time at United.

posted on 3/3/19

So when/if the honeymoon ends will United fans turn on Ole. They love him atm.

Because we are winning?

posted on 3/3/19

Think he’s speaking generally. Lots of caretaker managers do well initially but don’t often go on to be big successes at their clubs.

Time will tell with Ole but looks very promising so far

posted on 3/3/19

For United to challenge City and Lpool we will need to sustain the form we have been on since Christmas. Ole will need some serious money if he does get he gig from next season

posted on 3/3/19

Think he’s speaking generally
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He specifically mentions United.

Maybe the Ole effect wont last but the signs are as promising as they could be. If I were Jose I would be looking at what Ole is doing right now and maybe seeing a few areas in which I went wrong. I get the feeling he's too stubborn to even consider it though. In his mind the board, the transfers and the players are the only reasons it went wrong.

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

Whether or not Ole will continue his good form with us - probably not. In the sense that yes, we will at some point go through some poor form at times under Ole. But one thing's for certain, Ole won't throw his toys out of his pram unlike the un blameable one.

posted on 3/3/19

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Think he’s speaking generally
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He specifically mentions United.

Maybe the Ole effect wont last but the signs are as promising as they could be. If I were Jose I would be looking at what Ole is doing right now and maybe seeing a few areas in which I went wrong. I get the feeling he's too stubborn to even consider it though. In his mind the board, the transfers and the players are the only reasons it went wrong.
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He does mention United (and Fulham) but his point is a general one that caretaker managers don’t often keep up their great starts

Hope he’s wrong on this and tbf Ole has had the kind of great start you rarely see. Can’t remember such a great start

posted on 3/3/19

You can tell he’s so bitter.

Also does anyone remember that guy predicting us to get relegated with Ole when he was appointed?

Think he was a Cardiff fan.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 3/3/19

comment by Cornelius Oofterom (U15867)

posted 13 minutes ago

I certainly don't think he'll keep up the current win rate for the rest of his time at United.

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Not a chance he will. What he has done has been ridiculous

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

Jose's just one those bitter cants that is on the sidelines waiting for Ole to slip up after the honeymoon period and say 'I told you so!'

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
You can tell he’s so bitter.

Also does anyone remember that guy predicting us to get relegated with Ole when he was appointed?

Think he was a Cardiff fan.
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Yes, i remember that Cant! Kept on trying to warn us all about what is likely to happen to us under Ole, because he fecked them up in 2014

After the first game or two he was like 'Oh it's just luck that you won, and it'll soon be over...'

Now it's 14 games into Ole's PL tenure with United, and that Cardiff fan is long gone

Maybe he was actually Mourinho in disguise?!

posted on 3/3/19

comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
You can tell he’s so bitter.

Also does anyone remember that guy predicting us to get relegated with Ole when he was appointed?

Think he was a Cardiff fan.
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Yes, i remember that Cant! Kept on trying to warn us all about what is likely to happen to us under Ole, because he fecked them up in 2014

After the first game or two he was like 'Oh it's just luck that you won, and it'll soon be over...'

Now it's 14 games into Ole's PL tenure with United, and that Cardiff fan is long gone

Maybe he was actually Mourinho in disguise?!
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Was probably Rob.

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 6 minutes ago
You can tell he’s so bitter.

Also does anyone remember that guy predicting us to get relegated with Ole when he was appointed?

Think he was a Cardiff fan.
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Yes, i remember that Cant! Kept on trying to warn us all about what is likely to happen to us under Ole, because he fecked them up in 2014

After the first game or two he was like 'Oh it's just luck that you won, and it'll soon be over...'

Now it's 14 games into Ole's PL tenure with United, and that Cardiff fan is long gone

Maybe he was actually Mourinho in disguise?!
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Was probably Rob.
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I could actually see how - Rob's predictions always anticipate the opposite effect

posted on 3/3/19

It isn't rocket science to suggest Ole won't be able to keep producing runs like this. No manager could.

But our football under Ole will always be preferable to the sour faced one.

posted on 3/3/19

Mourinho had the worst record after 17 games in PL. Somehow outdid LVG last season who had an injury crisis at least as an excuse. When you think of it we have had terrible managers since SAF at getting good results consistently until OGS came in.

posted on 3/3/19

Man Utd made as many fast breaks in 1st half away to Spurs as we did in the 17 PL games under Mourinho. Mourinho was really the boring one. Tries to drain the players confidence in every way.

posted on 3/3/19

Nah, I’ll admit I was probably one of the biggest doubters of Ole and still feel that surely the bubble has to burst when the pressure is on but he’s absolutely blown my expectations apart and I would give him the job based on what he’s done. Would be mental for him not to get it.

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

It's inevitable that we will come crashing back down to earth at some point. But the mannerism in how the rut is handled will be different. The players will still respect Ole and be more united.

All teams go through bad patches, but it's vital that we have a manager that nurtures this squad in the right way.

The mistake the board made in the past was to keep that toxic one at the helm for too long causing further unjust unrest.

posted on 3/3/19

However things pan out for Ole at United let’s just hope the board persist with a coach that wants to play attacking football. It’s the least expected of a Man United manager. How they took five years to learn this blows my mind.

posted on 3/3/19

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
However things pan out for Ole at United let’s just hope the board persist with a coach that wants to play attacking football. It’s the least expected of a Man United manager. How they took five years to learn this blows my mind.
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Still not quite sure they’ve learnt it. If Ole gets the job it won’t imo be because of attacking football - it will be winning football. If Ole parked the bus every week and got 3 points every week I’m sure he’d still get the job

comment by Shugs (U14253)

posted on 3/3/19

Sour grapes

Jose had a snide dig at pogba too on bein

Hateful to$ser of a man

posted on 3/3/19

Possibly, Rob. I think when you listen to all the talk from the players about the freedom to attack, however, especially Pogba - our prized asset and a big reason for Mourinho’s departure - you’d think they would have learnt something. But this is the Manchester United board so I cannot dismiss your point out of hand.

Time will tell with our next appointments whether they have or not.

comment by Prem (U7618)

posted on 3/3/19

TBH it was easy to see what they were trying to achieve with Jose at United. They wanted quick instant success, and regardless of Jose's faults they overlooked that for the brief success he brought us however minimal. But they persisted too long in the waiting game when the ugly head started to rear its head again in the 3 years cycle syndrome.

Now the club is trying to take a different approach - a more 'traditional approach' if you will. They realise the importance of an actual structuring. And what better way to restructure than to get an iconic club legend who happens to have some managerial skills and place all their eggs in this basket. Except that nobody expected Ole and his coaching staff to do so well from the get go and continue this impressive form.

After all the uncertainty over the trio of Zidane, Poch or Ole, it's now become more of a 'When Ole gets the job', rather than 'Will Ole get the job scenario'.

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