comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
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According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 8 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
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Hmmm.
Is it though?
What you have is unregulated targeted marketing that, in the example of the Brexit campaign, not only broke the law for campaign spending but also peddled deliberate lies and mis-truths across the internet, creating an environment that disregarded accuracy and credible reporting while playing on their base fears.
Ultimately this kind of thing has led to criminality and, imo, ethical problems that need to be addressed.
Regardless of who is using it, I'd be saying the same.
So unless you support criminality and unethical approaches, then surely you want to see this regulated and better controlled?
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
Ivan I want to see sense in debates and not hysteria created by the media and those who lost a democratic vote. I want to see that vote honoured. That's way more important to me.
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comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 7 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
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All the campaign groups mis-led the public, so unsure how folk knew 'exactly' what they were voting for.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
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So because someone - a remainer, or two of them, said it swung the vote, that means it swung the vote? Where is the scientific testing of data? Or doesn't that matter?
More lies and bullshieyte from the remoaners.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
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So because someone - a remainer, or two of them, said it swung the vote, that means it swung the vote? Where is the scientific testing of data? Or doesn't that matter?
More lies and bullshieyte from the remoaners.
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Dom Cummings was the campaign director for Vote Leave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Cummings
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 22 seconds ago
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
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Please read Dom Cummings blog:
https://dominiccummings.com/tag/polls/
Btw I knew what I was voting for. Was I misled? I remembered Greece like a lot of leave voters. That's just one of many reasons.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
Btw I knew what I was voting for. Was I misled? I remembered Greece like a lot of leave voters. That's just one of many reasons.
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What specifically did you vote for?
His blog doesn't PROVE anything. an opinion is not scientifically tested data.
I read it, he's merely talking about how FB ads work in general. Which they do, I use them to advertise products. However, there is a big difference from getting someone to click like on a page, buy a product, to altering their voting habits. He's not talking about how much of the public vote was swayed in the referendum at all. He's merely talking about it's usefulness. However, I personally would wager it's not much use in this respect.
As I said ZERO scientific data on how many people were swayed by FB ads on how they voted in the referendum. None, Nada, Zilch. But carry on with the lies and hysteria.
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 12 seconds ago
His blog doesn't PROVE anything. an opinion is not scientifically tested data.
I read it, he's merely talking about how FB ads work in general. Which they do, I use them to advertise products. However, there is a big difference from getting someone to click like on a page, buy a product, to altering their voting habits. He's not talking about how much of the public vote was swayed in the referendum at all. He's merely talking about it's usefulness. However, I personally would wager it's not much use in this respect.
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VL (also via BeLeave), and LeaveEU spent the majority of their budget on mirco-targeting and their online campaigns.
They thought they were critical to winning the EUref. Strange you disagree with them.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
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I think a lot of people would disagree with you there. Have you watched this documentary?
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 33 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
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And where were you when the nation was tearing itself in half? When we really needed a ‘calm down, guys’?
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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You do realise this is all absolute nonsense?
What benefit do you see in having an independent trade policy?
What could the UK achieve that we cannot now, as signatories of the Common Commercial Policy?
And in regard to "no ties" to Europe how would this be realised?
And how would this impact the UK? Both socially, economically, and at the same time maintaining peace in Ireland?
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 33 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
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And where were you when the nation was tearing itself in half? When we really needed a ‘calm down, guys’?
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Hahaha
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
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Total pash.
They campaigned on leaving with a deal. Look through the campaign materials.
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comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
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Sorry to patronise but this is more tosh.
The EU (like any other trade bloc / free trade area) are bound by their WTO commitments.
The UK leaving the EU does not change it's obligations to the WTO.
The EU (over decades of negotiations with counties all over the world) has more bilateral and multilateral FTAs, MRAs, EPAs etc than any other trade bloc in the planet.
For example it’s why we can get cheap fresh fruit and veg all year. Tariff free oranges from Spain during the summer and from South America in the winter. Bananas from Costa Rica etc. etc. etc.
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posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 8 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm.
Is it though?
What you have is unregulated targeted marketing that, in the example of the Brexit campaign, not only broke the law for campaign spending but also peddled deliberate lies and mis-truths across the internet, creating an environment that disregarded accuracy and credible reporting while playing on their base fears.
Ultimately this kind of thing has led to criminality and, imo, ethical problems that need to be addressed.
Regardless of who is using it, I'd be saying the same.
So unless you support criminality and unethical approaches, then surely you want to see this regulated and better controlled?
posted on 26/7/19
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
posted on 26/7/19
Ivan I want to see sense in debates and not hysteria created by the media and those who lost a democratic vote. I want to see that vote honoured. That's way more important to me.
posted on 26/7/19
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posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 7 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
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All the campaign groups mis-led the public, so unsure how folk knew 'exactly' what they were voting for.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
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So because someone - a remainer, or two of them, said it swung the vote, that means it swung the vote? Where is the scientific testing of data? Or doesn't that matter?
More lies and bullshieyte from the remoaners.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is a perfect example of people who lost the remain vote in Europe bitching about it.
I have a facebook business account and I use it to sell stuff. It's nothing more than advertising.
Middle class journalists making documentaries and bitching as they lost elections and referendums and blaiming it on some 'conspiracy', it's just advertising ffs. How many people were swayed by facebook ads, reallly?
It's just more bullshieyte excuses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
According to Vote Leave, their (along with BeLeave and LeaveEU) micro-targeting social media ads were crucial factors which swung the vote in their favour.
According to Dom Cummings VL would have lost the EUref if not for the ads.
Thousand of adverts which targeted non-voters, and impressionable people (folk who had no prior interest in politics) into believing a vote to leave would help protect polar bears for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969
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So because someone - a remainer, or two of them, said it swung the vote, that means it swung the vote? Where is the scientific testing of data? Or doesn't that matter?
More lies and bullshieyte from the remoaners.
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Dom Cummings was the campaign director for Vote Leave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Cummings
posted on 26/7/19
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 22 seconds ago
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
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Please read Dom Cummings blog:
https://dominiccummings.com/tag/polls/
posted on 26/7/19
Btw I knew what I was voting for. Was I misled? I remembered Greece like a lot of leave voters. That's just one of many reasons.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
Btw I knew what I was voting for. Was I misled? I remembered Greece like a lot of leave voters. That's just one of many reasons.
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What specifically did you vote for?
posted on 26/7/19
His blog doesn't PROVE anything. an opinion is not scientifically tested data.
I read it, he's merely talking about how FB ads work in general. Which they do, I use them to advertise products. However, there is a big difference from getting someone to click like on a page, buy a product, to altering their voting habits. He's not talking about how much of the public vote was swayed in the referendum at all. He's merely talking about it's usefulness. However, I personally would wager it's not much use in this respect.
posted on 26/7/19
As I said ZERO scientific data on how many people were swayed by FB ads on how they voted in the referendum. None, Nada, Zilch. But carry on with the lies and hysteria.
posted on 26/7/19
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 12 seconds ago
His blog doesn't PROVE anything. an opinion is not scientifically tested data.
I read it, he's merely talking about how FB ads work in general. Which they do, I use them to advertise products. However, there is a big difference from getting someone to click like on a page, buy a product, to altering their voting habits. He's not talking about how much of the public vote was swayed in the referendum at all. He's merely talking about it's usefulness. However, I personally would wager it's not much use in this respect.
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VL (also via BeLeave), and LeaveEU spent the majority of their budget on mirco-targeting and their online campaigns.
They thought they were critical to winning the EUref. Strange you disagree with them.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sorry I only realised after I posted above, you said leavers said this. I would say again. Where is the scientific testing of data? My point still applies. I think these guys are talking sheiyte personally. Leavers or remainers. There is no proof of FB ads swinging any vote. NONE.
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I think a lot of people would disagree with you there. Have you watched this documentary?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 33 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And where were you when the nation was tearing itself in half? When we really needed a ‘calm down, guys’?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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You do realise this is all absolute nonsense?
What benefit do you see in having an independent trade policy?
What could the UK achieve that we cannot now, as signatories of the Common Commercial Policy?
And in regard to "no ties" to Europe how would this be realised?
And how would this impact the UK? Both socially, economically, and at the same time maintaining peace in Ireland?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 33 minutes ago
Only people who were going to vote leave were impressionable. Just like only people who voted leave, didn't have all the facts. I love the patronising nature of the remainers.
Remain spent way more money than vote leave, but that get's ignored and it's focused on vote leave spent money they didn't have ete etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And where were you when the nation was tearing itself in half? When we really needed a ‘calm down, guys’?
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Hahaha
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 1 minute ago
I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
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Total pash.
They campaigned on leaving with a deal. Look through the campaign materials.
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I voted to leave the EU, what does that mean? It means what the media describe as Hard Brexit. Because Soft Brexit isn't Brexit. I want no ties with Europe and I want for the UK to make our own trade deals. This Hard soft brexit nonsense again came out after us leavers won. It's a way for the remainer media and MP's to control Brexit and keep us tied to the EU. If we can't make trade deals then it's not Brexit.
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I also voted leave but i didn't vote for what is now described as a hard brexit, fundamentally because that is not what leave campaigned on.
Nonsense to suggest otherwise.
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Brexit was campaigned on the fact we could make our own trade deals. This was said time and time again. So 'Hard Brexit' was campaigned for. Ok Why would anyone want soft Brexit? Because we may as well have stayed in then. Sodt Brexit means we are still governed by Eu trade laws and we can't make our own trade deals. So we are tied to the EU yet have zero say in it. Are you seriously suggesting that that's what some people wanted. Still tied to everything in the EU with zero say? Why would anyone want to leave in that case? It's a worse position than before. C'mon to fluck man. Do you believe that p@sh honestly?
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Sorry to patronise but this is more tosh.
The EU (like any other trade bloc / free trade area) are bound by their WTO commitments.
The UK leaving the EU does not change it's obligations to the WTO.
The EU (over decades of negotiations with counties all over the world) has more bilateral and multilateral FTAs, MRAs, EPAs etc than any other trade bloc in the planet.
For example it’s why we can get cheap fresh fruit and veg all year. Tariff free oranges from Spain during the summer and from South America in the winter. Bananas from Costa Rica etc. etc. etc.
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