Btw where's flucking Ginger when I need him? I think it's only me and him on the Scottish boards who are pro Brexit.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think a deal will happen now Stuart btw.
But Stuart I have said countless times above, in the event of No deal even, I believe this will all get sorted out quickly. You can bet your erchie these people on both sides will swing into action quicker than you can imagine due to banking and business pressure.
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Do you think the UK would be in a weaker or stronger position negotiating with the EU in the event of a no-deal?
Given the chaos which would ensue.
Plus as the UK would formally be a third country, the EU would have to apply WTO MFN rules.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think a deal will happen now Stuart btw.
But Stuart I have said countless times above, in the event of No deal even, I believe this will all get sorted out quickly. You can bet your erchie these people on both sides will swing into action quicker than you can imagine due to banking and business pressure.
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Do you think the UK would be in a weaker or stronger position negotiating with the EU in the event of a no-deal?
Given the chaos which would ensue.
Plus as the UK would formally be a third country, the EU would have to apply WTO MFN rules.
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I think we will both be in a shieyte position if it happens. But I think it's important the EU knows we may go down this road. The EU never took May's threats of no-deal seriously, so they helpd all the cards before and our idiotic MP's voting to take it off the table weakened our hand, hence why this may now be happening. If you are playing poker or any game you always keep the threat as a move even if you don't want to use it.
Castle Grayskull
Unsurprisingly the EU also saw the UK's no-deal preparedness notices (you know the ones Davies tried to keep away from parliament/public). They make for grim reading.
Unless the UK wishes to impose a no-deal (and subsequent consequences) to itself (which any government looking to protect it's citizens would not) there's little chance of parliament allowing the government proceeding without a deal.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 13 minutes ago
Btw where's flucking Ginger when I need him? I think it's only me and him on the Scottish boards who are pro Brexit.
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Exactly. You should reflect on that and think about the company you're keeping
I read some articles the other day where the EU negotiators said we never believed May would go down the No deal route. They must've been pissing themselves. It's like arguing with you Dad as a kid and that threat of he might slap my is off the table. You need that fear if that makes sense. If you negotiate with someone and you know there is no consequences for your side then you are laughing and fully in control of things, which the EU has been. I have been stunned at our MP's weaking our hand by voting against No deal. Save it until the end of negotiations you moronic phannies. It's basic common sense.
Pragmatism will prevail
And you can shut it Ivan
Yeeess, Here's Ginger! Right, into these Phannies Ginger. I've been holding the fort here like Michael Caine in Zulu.
A good Empire reference btw.
I'm joking ya kants.
The moronic thing was listening to Brexit fanatics and slapping down Article 50 before we had any form of plan.
Then we refused to have any kind of infrastructure planning during the first two years.
Then very little infrastructure planning in the next year.
And still we have no infrastructure in place for when we do leave.
Because the Tories have no idea what the feck they are doing.
I'm against Leave but if the UK government had went about it in the correct way then the country would have been better prepared to deal with the repeated kick in the balls that it will deliver. Now we're standing with our legs apart and our eyes closed with a sign on our bellies saying KICK HERE and an arrow pointing at our balls.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Pragmatism will prevail
And you can shut it Ivan
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What 'infrastructure' planning would have sufficed for you Ivan out of curiousity?
Castle Grayskull
The biggest mistake the Ukgov (Dexeu) made was thinking the EU would compromise the integrity of its internal market (German cars, French wine etc etc).
A bit like the UK negotiating a FTA with the US, and the US stipulating terms would only apply to Scotland and Wales but not England and NI.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 12 seconds ago
What 'infrastructure' planning would have sufficed for you Ivan out of curiousity?
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A significant amount.
Certainly more than none.
If you're going to do something, do it properly. Not this shambles that is only deepening the damage.
I think the UK doesn't understand what the EU 'means' to Germany. They are pushing on with this 'project' no matter what as they believe it's for peace, which is a load of Bullocks, they are running the show at the highest level and they know it. I don't think the average German knows that though. For me it's like the 4th Reich and I'm being serious. As I said lived there German ex, love the country, but they along with France are now doing what they couldn't do with a military economically. I really believe that. But Germany is all in in this. They wont back down due to economic threats.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
The moronic thing was listening to Brexit fanatics and slapping down Article 50 before we had any form of plan.
Then we refused to have any kind of infrastructure planning during the first two years.
Then very little infrastructure planning in the next year.
And still we have no infrastructure in place for when we do leave.
Because the Tories have no idea what the feck they are doing.
I'm against Leave but if the UK government had went about it in the correct way then the country would have been better prepared to deal with the repeated kick in the balls that it will deliver. Now we're standing with our legs apart and our eyes closed with a sign on our bellies saying KICK HERE and an arrow pointing at our balls.
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Yes mistress. Thank you mistress
You still haven't said what infrastructure entails though Ivan. What do you mean by it exactly?
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think the UK doesn't understand what the EU 'means' to Germany. They are pushing on with this 'project' no matter what as they believe it's for peace, which is a load of Bullocks, they are running the show at the highest level and they know it. I don't think the average German knows that though. For me it's like the 4th Reich and I'm being serious. As I said lived there German ex, love the country, but they along with France are now doing what they couldn't do with a military economically. I really believe that. But Germany is all in in this. They wont back down due to economic threats.
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A fourth Reich? Really?
FFS, the EU is of course going to be dominated by the biggest countries, and Germany obviously is among them. But Jesus Christ how do you not realise that we were at the very heart of this and had just as much influence as they did? This was our baby and was of a massive benefit to us as a country.
This comes across as justifying committing a massive act of self-harm because of a hostility to Germany ffs.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 36 minutes ago
Can you stop requoting full posts ffs.
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It’s a daily struggle.
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Ivan put your Tampon back in and stop acting woke and 'offended' due to my comments. What part of I lived in Germany for a year did you miss or that I had a German ex girlfriend or that I love their country did you miss?
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 5 minutes ago
You still haven't said what infrastructure entails though Ivan. What do you mean by it exactly?
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Being able to manage our borders for a start. Being able to cope with the thousands of lorries that will come into the country via Dover (Raab hopefully has finally realised how important Dover is in this regard). Having the various branches of the civil service prepared and staffed appropriately to deal with the new challenges. Finding a solution for Ireland.
And as for all these trade deals - we have nobody to conduct these deals. Where are they coming from? Where is the expertise? Where are the people who are going to get us the best deal possible with each nation state at the same fecking time, because they all need to be done immediately?
We are not prepared for this. At all.
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 25 seconds ago
Ivan put your Tampon back in and stop acting woke and 'offended' due to my comments. What part of I lived in Germany for a year did you miss or that I had a German ex girlfriend or that I love their country did you miss?
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And yet you still compare Germany to the fourth Reich. Nonsensical and shows you up.
In regard to no-deal, there is only so much planning the government can do.
It cannot for example plan for the loss of EU counter-terrorism databases, loss of access to 44 EU agencies.
Increase the size of it's ports etc.
Increase the number of AEO licences the EU award to third country operators.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47628769
https://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-british-lorries-turned-back-dover-shipping-companies/5683319
Just a few examples of hundreds.
Btw it wasn't our Baby Ivan. It was started as an Coal trading thing just after WW2 between Germany and France. We didn't even join until the 70's and even when we joined it was the EEA, which was merely a trading zone, however it's now morphed into this Super State project with a single military and the end goal is one new Federal State. That's in their published goals.
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posted on 26/7/19
Btw where's flucking Ginger when I need him? I think it's only me and him on the Scottish boards who are pro Brexit.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think a deal will happen now Stuart btw.
But Stuart I have said countless times above, in the event of No deal even, I believe this will all get sorted out quickly. You can bet your erchie these people on both sides will swing into action quicker than you can imagine due to banking and business pressure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think the UK would be in a weaker or stronger position negotiating with the EU in the event of a no-deal?
Given the chaos which would ensue.
Plus as the UK would formally be a third country, the EU would have to apply WTO MFN rules.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't think a deal will happen now Stuart btw.
But Stuart I have said countless times above, in the event of No deal even, I believe this will all get sorted out quickly. You can bet your erchie these people on both sides will swing into action quicker than you can imagine due to banking and business pressure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you think the UK would be in a weaker or stronger position negotiating with the EU in the event of a no-deal?
Given the chaos which would ensue.
Plus as the UK would formally be a third country, the EU would have to apply WTO MFN rules.
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I think we will both be in a shieyte position if it happens. But I think it's important the EU knows we may go down this road. The EU never took May's threats of no-deal seriously, so they helpd all the cards before and our idiotic MP's voting to take it off the table weakened our hand, hence why this may now be happening. If you are playing poker or any game you always keep the threat as a move even if you don't want to use it.
posted on 26/7/19
Castle Grayskull
Unsurprisingly the EU also saw the UK's no-deal preparedness notices (you know the ones Davies tried to keep away from parliament/public). They make for grim reading.
Unless the UK wishes to impose a no-deal (and subsequent consequences) to itself (which any government looking to protect it's citizens would not) there's little chance of parliament allowing the government proceeding without a deal.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 13 minutes ago
Btw where's flucking Ginger when I need him? I think it's only me and him on the Scottish boards who are pro Brexit.
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Exactly. You should reflect on that and think about the company you're keeping
posted on 26/7/19
I read some articles the other day where the EU negotiators said we never believed May would go down the No deal route. They must've been pissing themselves. It's like arguing with you Dad as a kid and that threat of he might slap my is off the table. You need that fear if that makes sense. If you negotiate with someone and you know there is no consequences for your side then you are laughing and fully in control of things, which the EU has been. I have been stunned at our MP's weaking our hand by voting against No deal. Save it until the end of negotiations you moronic phannies. It's basic common sense.
posted on 26/7/19
*slap me
posted on 26/7/19
Pragmatism will prevail
And you can shut it Ivan
posted on 26/7/19
Yeeess, Here's Ginger! Right, into these Phannies Ginger. I've been holding the fort here like Michael Caine in Zulu.
A good Empire reference btw.
I'm joking ya kants.
posted on 26/7/19
The moronic thing was listening to Brexit fanatics and slapping down Article 50 before we had any form of plan.
Then we refused to have any kind of infrastructure planning during the first two years.
Then very little infrastructure planning in the next year.
And still we have no infrastructure in place for when we do leave.
Because the Tories have no idea what the feck they are doing.
I'm against Leave but if the UK government had went about it in the correct way then the country would have been better prepared to deal with the repeated kick in the balls that it will deliver. Now we're standing with our legs apart and our eyes closed with a sign on our bellies saying KICK HERE and an arrow pointing at our balls.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
Pragmatism will prevail
And you can shut it Ivan
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posted on 26/7/19
What 'infrastructure' planning would have sufficed for you Ivan out of curiousity?
posted on 26/7/19
Castle Grayskull
The biggest mistake the Ukgov (Dexeu) made was thinking the EU would compromise the integrity of its internal market (German cars, French wine etc etc).
A bit like the UK negotiating a FTA with the US, and the US stipulating terms would only apply to Scotland and Wales but not England and NI.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 12 seconds ago
What 'infrastructure' planning would have sufficed for you Ivan out of curiousity?
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A significant amount.
Certainly more than none.
If you're going to do something, do it properly. Not this shambles that is only deepening the damage.
posted on 26/7/19
I think the UK doesn't understand what the EU 'means' to Germany. They are pushing on with this 'project' no matter what as they believe it's for peace, which is a load of Bullocks, they are running the show at the highest level and they know it. I don't think the average German knows that though. For me it's like the 4th Reich and I'm being serious. As I said lived there German ex, love the country, but they along with France are now doing what they couldn't do with a military economically. I really believe that. But Germany is all in in this. They wont back down due to economic threats.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 minutes ago
The moronic thing was listening to Brexit fanatics and slapping down Article 50 before we had any form of plan.
Then we refused to have any kind of infrastructure planning during the first two years.
Then very little infrastructure planning in the next year.
And still we have no infrastructure in place for when we do leave.
Because the Tories have no idea what the feck they are doing.
I'm against Leave but if the UK government had went about it in the correct way then the country would have been better prepared to deal with the repeated kick in the balls that it will deliver. Now we're standing with our legs apart and our eyes closed with a sign on our bellies saying KICK HERE and an arrow pointing at our balls.
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Yes mistress. Thank you mistress
posted on 26/7/19
You still haven't said what infrastructure entails though Ivan. What do you mean by it exactly?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think the UK doesn't understand what the EU 'means' to Germany. They are pushing on with this 'project' no matter what as they believe it's for peace, which is a load of Bullocks, they are running the show at the highest level and they know it. I don't think the average German knows that though. For me it's like the 4th Reich and I'm being serious. As I said lived there German ex, love the country, but they along with France are now doing what they couldn't do with a military economically. I really believe that. But Germany is all in in this. They wont back down due to economic threats.
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A fourth Reich? Really?
FFS, the EU is of course going to be dominated by the biggest countries, and Germany obviously is among them. But Jesus Christ how do you not realise that we were at the very heart of this and had just as much influence as they did? This was our baby and was of a massive benefit to us as a country.
This comes across as justifying committing a massive act of self-harm because of a hostility to Germany ffs.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 36 minutes ago
Can you stop requoting full posts ffs.
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It’s a daily struggle.
posted on 26/7/19
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posted on 26/7/19
Ivan put your Tampon back in and stop acting woke and 'offended' due to my comments. What part of I lived in Germany for a year did you miss or that I had a German ex girlfriend or that I love their country did you miss?
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 5 minutes ago
You still haven't said what infrastructure entails though Ivan. What do you mean by it exactly?
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Being able to manage our borders for a start. Being able to cope with the thousands of lorries that will come into the country via Dover (Raab hopefully has finally realised how important Dover is in this regard). Having the various branches of the civil service prepared and staffed appropriately to deal with the new challenges. Finding a solution for Ireland.
And as for all these trade deals - we have nobody to conduct these deals. Where are they coming from? Where is the expertise? Where are the people who are going to get us the best deal possible with each nation state at the same fecking time, because they all need to be done immediately?
We are not prepared for this. At all.
posted on 26/7/19
comment by Castle Grayskull (U3573)
posted 25 seconds ago
Ivan put your Tampon back in and stop acting woke and 'offended' due to my comments. What part of I lived in Germany for a year did you miss or that I had a German ex girlfriend or that I love their country did you miss?
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And yet you still compare Germany to the fourth Reich. Nonsensical and shows you up.
posted on 26/7/19
In regard to no-deal, there is only so much planning the government can do.
It cannot for example plan for the loss of EU counter-terrorism databases, loss of access to 44 EU agencies.
Increase the size of it's ports etc.
Increase the number of AEO licences the EU award to third country operators.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47628769
https://www.globalresearch.ca/brexit-british-lorries-turned-back-dover-shipping-companies/5683319
Just a few examples of hundreds.
posted on 26/7/19
Btw it wasn't our Baby Ivan. It was started as an Coal trading thing just after WW2 between Germany and France. We didn't even join until the 70's and even when we joined it was the EEA, which was merely a trading zone, however it's now morphed into this Super State project with a single military and the end goal is one new Federal State. That's in their published goals.
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