Plus if Bruno comes Rashford will probably be off penos.
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem so angry about this - save that for the people that called him Gashford. I was always behind the guy. Sure, I may have said we needed an experienced striker to help him develop and I was right - he isn’t really a striker per se. I was the one saying he could be up there with Mbappe a few years ago and I stand by that.
As for this seasons targets - we don’t play Norwich every week. We have a very tough run in and I doubt we’ll even finish above 60 points. If I’m wrong about that target i’ll own it. But it’s still a long way off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
As for the hard run in, we've played better against the harder teams and the counter attack approach suits Rashford and Martial. Rashford has scored against Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Spurs and Leicester. Martial against Chelsea, Wolves and City. Your comment about us not playing Norwich every week carries no weight. Especially when they are averaging a goal a game between them after 22 matches.
If we manage to sign Fernandes then I'd hope that they will get more chances in open play against the teams that sit deep.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 48 minutes ago
Plus if Bruno comes Rashford will probably be off penos.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be very surprised if Ole does that. Firstly, Rashford is in form and our top scorer. Ole will want to keep him in form and scoring. Secondly, I don't see Ole being the type to take away penalty duties from a lad that has come up through the ranks and give them straight to a new signing. Perhaps next season, but i doubt he'd do that immediately.
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A footballer who can't be bothered to keep himself fit or run is a mercenary for me. Everton had the same problem with him. He just didn't run enough. He is still a good striker, but will never be top class. Not focused enough.
And yes you can call a manager mercenary. Gary Monk being the most obvious. Jose has shown such traits in purposely getting himself sacked at clubs once the chips are down. Rather than try and battle though he makes his position untenable and takes the payout.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A footballer who can't be bothered to keep himself fit or run is a mercenary for me. Everton had the same problem with him. He just didn't run enough. He is still a good striker, but will never be top class. Not focused enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He will go down as a very good striker who scored loads of goals everywhere he want as well as the top scorer for his country. Rashford would do very well to have anything like his career.
Again, read up on him. He’s far from a mercenary. In his long career he’s had one season where he wasn’t as fit as he should have been and that was down to the Belgian fitness coaches who made him bulk up for the World Cup. I didn’t notice you calling Rooney a mercenary just because he put on some weight - and for more than just one season
Your man wouldn’t likely be in a job without Lukaku’s goals - so it’s not like he didn’t try. And don’t forget the momentous effort he put into the Liverpool game where he was shunted onto the right for the whole game
I did call Rooney a mercenary actually. I was in favour of swapping him for Mata when that deal was a possibility. We all knew that he didn't look after himself. Too much smoking, beer and fast food. He had a great career, but I think he could have been even better than he was had he looked after himself.
Sure I saw him limping off last night.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 minute ago
You don’t miss much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He knows his football
Sign in if you want to comment
Marcus Rashford appreciation thread
Page 2 of 2
posted on 15/1/20
Plus if Bruno comes Rashford will probably be off penos.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
Even early on it was obvious that he was more than just a finisher. His dribbling and skills/ability to beat a man were there to see. But you'll say anything to defend one of your obsessions.
As for goals this season, they are on for 38 in the league at current rate. And that is without a creative midfielder/Pogba injured and Martial injured for 8 weeks or so. Why would you think it is unlikely? I'd say it looks more likely than not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You seem so angry about this - save that for the people that called him Gashford. I was always behind the guy. Sure, I may have said we needed an experienced striker to help him develop and I was right - he isn’t really a striker per se. I was the one saying he could be up there with Mbappe a few years ago and I stand by that.
As for this seasons targets - we don’t play Norwich every week. We have a very tough run in and I doubt we’ll even finish above 60 points. If I’m wrong about that target i’ll own it. But it’s still a long way off.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
As for the hard run in, we've played better against the harder teams and the counter attack approach suits Rashford and Martial. Rashford has scored against Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Spurs and Leicester. Martial against Chelsea, Wolves and City. Your comment about us not playing Norwich every week carries no weight. Especially when they are averaging a goal a game between them after 22 matches.
If we manage to sign Fernandes then I'd hope that they will get more chances in open play against the teams that sit deep.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 48 minutes ago
Plus if Bruno comes Rashford will probably be off penos.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd be very surprised if Ole does that. Firstly, Rashford is in form and our top scorer. Ole will want to keep him in form and scoring. Secondly, I don't see Ole being the type to take away penalty duties from a lad that has come up through the ranks and give them straight to a new signing. Perhaps next season, but i doubt he'd do that immediately.
posted on 15/1/20
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A footballer who can't be bothered to keep himself fit or run is a mercenary for me. Everton had the same problem with him. He just didn't run enough. He is still a good striker, but will never be top class. Not focused enough.
posted on 15/1/20
And yes you can call a manager mercenary. Gary Monk being the most obvious. Jose has shown such traits in purposely getting himself sacked at clubs once the chips are down. Rather than try and battle though he makes his position untenable and takes the payout.
posted on 15/1/20
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robb 2.0 - We need a qualified teacher, not a substitute like Ole (U22311)
posted 4 minutes ago
Angry? It's a message board forum. Just makes me laugh when you are going on about how some people don't give him credit for how intelligent he is on the ball, when that's the very thing you did. I doubt you even believed it at the time. It was just a way for you to push your agenda at that time. You'll happily criticise proper United people to support your obsession. Mercanaries like Lukaku, Pogba and Jose. Then you'll flip your opinion when it suits. Which is why people say you don't debate in good faith.
———-
Mercenaries 😂
I’m sure Ole is working for free. And I’m sure Rash didn’t just get a huge contract upgrade.
There’s no agenda - do you not see this article where I’m praising Rashford? He has improved so my initial feelings were fair. That he was one thing and with time has become better.
You just can’t handle that at the time it was the sensible choice buying someone like Lukaku as we couldn’t just rely on Rash and that was a fair decision. Now Rash has moved on and it’s the time to trust in him.
He’s gotten more intelligent on the ball. I know you think that 18 year olds fresh out of the academy are the finished product but they often aren’t and Rash was no exception. He still has many flaws but he deserves credit for how hard he’s worked on the flaws he has overcome.
Still laughing at your ‘mercenaries’ comment 😂 Grow up mate
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku got too big and couldn't be bothered to run. Happy to take the money. You have yourself questioned Pogba's motivation and whether he is really injured. Jose appeared to do his best to get the sack at the end and take the payout. Yes, mercanaries. Primarily motivated by money.
I didn't want Lukaku because I thought he'd stifle Martial and Rashfords progress and I think he did. I said that they would flourish when he left and that is what has happened. I think they'll do better with a decent AM in behind them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He also kept Ole in a job with his vital goals so it’s not quite as simple as he couldn’t be bothered to run
If you know anything about Lukaku the man you’ll know he’s very much not a mercenary and seems to be quite down to earth. If he was a Merc he’d have gone to Italy and just phoned it in but he’s smashing it and is working under a manager who bothered to believe in him.
As for Pogba, I guess you’ve missed me slating him over the last couple of years when I could see he was phoning it in. I doubt Jose was trying to get sacked for the money. He was just another victim of Ed. You could see on the touch line how much he cared about the job.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lukaku was lazy. When you've got Pogba shouting a team mate for not making runs, you know he's lazy. He got to big and never sorted the issue. He was happy to take the money and go through the motions. Just like Pogba.
As for Jose not wanting the sack, he started laying the foundations in the summer of his final season. We could all see it happening. Many on the boards that have seen his actions previously picked up on it and predicted what was coming. He played Herrera at CB FFS. Of course he wanted sacking.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regarding Jose, I think he was dissatisfied by Ed not bringing in what was needed and he was frustrated that after our best post SAF season he wasn’t backed. I can accept he wasn’t happy but a manager being sacked for losing the dressing room doesn’t make him a mercenary . Was LVG a mercenary? That guy managed loads of clubs. It’s unfair really to call managers mercs as they just get hired to do a job (call one a mercenary and call them all one)
And for your first paragraph regarding Lukaku I’ll just ignore that as if you really think he’s a merc just because of one poor season then I’m afraid you’re wrong. Mercs don’t go to Italy and work as hard as he did to be a success. He just had a manager who knew how to get the best out of him.
You say I don’t debate in good faith but you’re showing here you’re not exactly innocent yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A footballer who can't be bothered to keep himself fit or run is a mercenary for me. Everton had the same problem with him. He just didn't run enough. He is still a good striker, but will never be top class. Not focused enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He will go down as a very good striker who scored loads of goals everywhere he want as well as the top scorer for his country. Rashford would do very well to have anything like his career.
Again, read up on him. He’s far from a mercenary. In his long career he’s had one season where he wasn’t as fit as he should have been and that was down to the Belgian fitness coaches who made him bulk up for the World Cup. I didn’t notice you calling Rooney a mercenary just because he put on some weight - and for more than just one season
Your man wouldn’t likely be in a job without Lukaku’s goals - so it’s not like he didn’t try. And don’t forget the momentous effort he put into the Liverpool game where he was shunted onto the right for the whole game
posted on 15/1/20
I did call Rooney a mercenary actually. I was in favour of swapping him for Mata when that deal was a possibility. We all knew that he didn't look after himself. Too much smoking, beer and fast food. He had a great career, but I think he could have been even better than he was had he looked after himself.
posted on 16/1/20
Sure I saw him limping off last night.
posted on 16/1/20
You don’t miss much
posted on 16/1/20
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 minute ago
You don’t miss much
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He knows his football
Page 2 of 2