City set the standards with 100 points, Liverpool kept them honest and kept pushed them, which pushed Liverpool to have to do even better who didnt give up just kept going, City havent been able to keep up so far but that was inevitable you're talking pushing 300 points over 3 seasons straight form. Pep/Klopp City/Liverpool make no mistake push each other to the brink and for that itll be a shame if Pep walks away from the prem in a way. Remember no ones guaranteed anything anyway even if he does leave them.
as i just posted on another thread.
I agree with everything apart from your last paragraph there Ripley. The results haven’t been good but the performances really aren’t that far off. One thing that both ourselves and Liverpool have shown is that getting one or two critical signings right can make all the difference between being a good or a great team.
If we get that right in the summer, there’s no reason we can’t swing back to where we were before very quickly.
When Liverpool were pipped to the title by a point and after just one defeat all season, Klopp was asked what it was going to take to finally land this title.
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
To be fair, you could have been a fair bit off perfection and still won it. Think that mentality is absolutely the right one though.
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To be fair, you could have been a fair bit off perfection and still won it. Think that mentality is absolutely the right one though.
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Without doubt. That level of perfection has completely demoralised that City squad - no doubt about it.
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Also trust me, the pressure doesnt go away until its mathematically done, especially after as long of a wait. And as i said before the pressure from last season alone finishing on 97 points and losing has clearly pushed us on to be even more relentless.
I agree, you must be aware your squad cost what 300m more than Liverpools so i dont think 2 injuries albeit to key players can be an excuse. you already start the season with 4 VVD's worth more than us. Kompany was a huge loss even from the dressing room, thats clear to see.
Silva would still be very useful but if you want to give time to players like Foden i guess its for the best.
As for staying hungry and maintaining, that will hopefully be looked at after if we do win it, still not done yet, the main thing after all this time is finally winning another league title.
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure. Then last season was an epic tussle with both teams winning nearly all their games.
Start of this season I felt city could no way generate such high points again but I also thought the same for us. I was expecting us to battle till the end with the eventual champion prob on early 90 points.
This season we have been relentless. Yeah we were fortunate in some games, like all champions are, but where previous champs may manage to draw the game we been unique by winning the games.
That was partly down in a way to your manager. We lost 1 game last season and still did not win the league this year, the Sheffield united game away showed Klopp now felt we had to go for a win every game by making attacking changes rather than grab the draw.
Fortune favours the brave!!!
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
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To echo Melton's comment, you've not had to be close to perfection to win (you will win) the title this season. That you are close to perfection however is testament to the attitude that Klopp has installed in Liverpool this season. 100 points was unheard of. It looks like you're going to reach 100 points and them some with ease.
That harks back to my point in my OP. Had we pushed you harder, then, well, it would have been harder to attain.
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure. Then last season was an epic tussle with both teams winning nearly all their games.
Start of this season I felt city could no way generate such high points again but I also thought the same for us. I was expecting us to battle till the end with the eventual champion prob on early 90 points.
This season we have been relentless. Yeah we were fortunate in some games, like all champions are, but where previous champs may manage to draw the game we been unique by winning the games.
That was partly down in a way to your manager. We lost 1 game last season and still did not win the league this year, the Sheffield united game away showed Klopp now felt we had to go for a win every game by making attacking changes rather than grab the draw.
Fortune favours the brave!!!
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it should be common knowledge to any manager really, if you are drawing 3 games but go for a win in all 3 yet lose 2 win 1 you're still on the same points as 3 draws. Only issue is the rival head to heads there can be 12 point swings so a draws not too bad since you also take 2 points off a rival so aslong as one of the losses isnt doing it vs them.
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure.
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Absolutely.
That season was easy for us. And we were able to play without any pressure that meant that such a high points total became easier to achieve.
That's exactly the point that I was making. It was easier for City that season. This season has been easier for Liverpool for the same reason.
I don't want that comment to come across as belittling such an achievement. After all, both clubs started the season on zero points and had to earn the right to put themselves in such a position. I have nothing but admiration for what Liverpool are doing this season (and last for that matter). But a lack of challenge does make it easier.
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
“I agree, you must be aware your squad cost what 300m more than Liverpools so i dont think 2 injuries albeit to key players can be an excuse. you already start the season with 4 VVD's worth more than us. Kompany was a huge loss even from the dressing room, thats clear to see.”
It isn’t but it depends what you think it’s excusing. We’ve a few players that are absolutely critical to how we play regardless of how much the potential back up cost - as I said I don’t think the performances have been that far off, those players have been the difference makers for us over the last couple of seasons though. We also didn’t recruit in areas we should have done and don’t have the same level of back up for.
It isn’t an excuse at all for us as a club though, it’s an error. I don’t think it’s anywhere even close to a terminal or long term one though.
City will be back next season no doubt, very hard to win three on the spin
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure.
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Absolutely.
That season was easy for us. And we were able to play without any pressure that meant that such a high points total became easier to achieve.
That's exactly the point that I was making. It was easier for City that season. This season has been easier for Liverpool for the same reason.
I don't want that comment to come across as belittling such an achievement. After all, both clubs started the season on zero points and had to earn the right to put themselves in such a position. I have nothing but admiration for what Liverpool are doing this season (and last for that matter). But a lack of challenge does make it easier.
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And as i said the challenge or the threat city pose was evident last season 97 points and finishing second is unheard of, i dont think you being 1 point behind etc was needed, they already knew the pressure they were under and the levels required.
Also trust me, the pressure doesnt go away until its mathematically done, especially after as long of a wait.
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I often think of Andy Cole when making this point about pressure.
It was often said that Cole needed several chances to score. At United at that time he was virtually guaranteed several chances per game. If he fluffed a chance, he knew that another would come in the same game.
Which meant that he didn't feel that much pressure to score from his first chance. Meaning that he would, quite often, score from his first chance.
Now, the same player plays for another team - a team that may only create one or two chances per game (at most). And that player knows that he has to score, because another chance won't come along. And he inevitably misses!!
Confidence and pressure plays a massive part in football. Mentality when compared to ability is a bigger component in what makes a player (and a team as a collective) reach the top of the game.
Klopp has instilled such a mentality into Liverpool. That mentality has turned players into world beaters. Full credit for that.
And as i said the challenge or the threat city pose was evident last season 97 points and finishing second is unheard of, i dont think you being 1 point behind etc was needed, they already knew the pressure they were under and the levels required.
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Yeah, it's a fair and valid point inbefore.
I do think though that Liverpool thought this season would have been tougher than it's actually been. Hence a reduced sense of pressure in that respect.
City rose to that pressure last season to usurp Liverpool to the league title. Liverpool have learnt from that and taken it a step further. City have succumbed to it and fallen way short.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
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You are very bitter, it is unreal. When City won the league with 100 points the rest were garbage.
There was no top 6 when Arsenal won the league and the only team you had to compete with was Man United.
We went to Spurs and dominated them.
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comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
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You are very bitter, it is unreal. When City won the league with 100 points the rest were garbage.
There was no top 6 when Arsenal won the league and the only team you had to compete with was Man United.
We went to Spurs and dominated them.
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Unfortunately some of the gooners and even their ex players from the invincible era have been bitter. The season they won as invincibles united finished only 3rd and were like 9 points or so below the previous season total I think (so they were poor) Liverpool as you keep telling us were always poor and indeed finished 4th but sacked houllier as we lost like near 10 league games I think. This league is poorer is nonsense. Was last year poor as well and the season before? Because last year Chelsea 3r place team were over 20 points behind us in 2nd.
The only fans who I found to be reasonable of our achievement and not belittling it are the city fans.
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 19 seconds ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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It will.def be closer next year between these two.bi way we will win the amount of games we have this season. But I reckon it will.need someone to get plus 95 points to win it.
This league is poorer is nonsense.
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Totally agree Goofy.
I don't really understand why people would say this kind of thing, as though it's a win of some sort.
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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Absolutely.
As much as you can admire a coach who consistently wins trophies, the true measure comes when things dont go your way, and how you react.
And I certainly expect a reaction from City and their manager next season.
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posted on 2/2/20
City set the standards with 100 points, Liverpool kept them honest and kept pushed them, which pushed Liverpool to have to do even better who didnt give up just kept going, City havent been able to keep up so far but that was inevitable you're talking pushing 300 points over 3 seasons straight form. Pep/Klopp City/Liverpool make no mistake push each other to the brink and for that itll be a shame if Pep walks away from the prem in a way. Remember no ones guaranteed anything anyway even if he does leave them.
as i just posted on another thread.
posted on 2/2/20
I agree with everything apart from your last paragraph there Ripley. The results haven’t been good but the performances really aren’t that far off. One thing that both ourselves and Liverpool have shown is that getting one or two critical signings right can make all the difference between being a good or a great team.
If we get that right in the summer, there’s no reason we can’t swing back to where we were before very quickly.
posted on 2/2/20
When Liverpool were pipped to the title by a point and after just one defeat all season, Klopp was asked what it was going to take to finally land this title.
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
posted on 2/2/20
To be fair, you could have been a fair bit off perfection and still won it. Think that mentality is absolutely the right one though.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 25 seconds ago
To be fair, you could have been a fair bit off perfection and still won it. Think that mentality is absolutely the right one though.
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Without doubt. That level of perfection has completely demoralised that City squad - no doubt about it.
posted on 2/2/20
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posted on 2/2/20
Also trust me, the pressure doesnt go away until its mathematically done, especially after as long of a wait. And as i said before the pressure from last season alone finishing on 97 points and losing has clearly pushed us on to be even more relentless.
I agree, you must be aware your squad cost what 300m more than Liverpools so i dont think 2 injuries albeit to key players can be an excuse. you already start the season with 4 VVD's worth more than us. Kompany was a huge loss even from the dressing room, thats clear to see.
Silva would still be very useful but if you want to give time to players like Foden i guess its for the best.
As for staying hungry and maintaining, that will hopefully be looked at after if we do win it, still not done yet, the main thing after all this time is finally winning another league title.
posted on 2/2/20
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure. Then last season was an epic tussle with both teams winning nearly all their games.
Start of this season I felt city could no way generate such high points again but I also thought the same for us. I was expecting us to battle till the end with the eventual champion prob on early 90 points.
This season we have been relentless. Yeah we were fortunate in some games, like all champions are, but where previous champs may manage to draw the game we been unique by winning the games.
That was partly down in a way to your manager. We lost 1 game last season and still did not win the league this year, the Sheffield united game away showed Klopp now felt we had to go for a win every game by making attacking changes rather than grab the draw.
Fortune favours the brave!!!
posted on 2/2/20
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
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To echo Melton's comment, you've not had to be close to perfection to win (you will win) the title this season. That you are close to perfection however is testament to the attitude that Klopp has installed in Liverpool this season. 100 points was unheard of. It looks like you're going to reach 100 points and them some with ease.
That harks back to my point in my OP. Had we pushed you harder, then, well, it would have been harder to attain.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure. Then last season was an epic tussle with both teams winning nearly all their games.
Start of this season I felt city could no way generate such high points again but I also thought the same for us. I was expecting us to battle till the end with the eventual champion prob on early 90 points.
This season we have been relentless. Yeah we were fortunate in some games, like all champions are, but where previous champs may manage to draw the game we been unique by winning the games.
That was partly down in a way to your manager. We lost 1 game last season and still did not win the league this year, the Sheffield united game away showed Klopp now felt we had to go for a win every game by making attacking changes rather than grab the draw.
Fortune favours the brave!!!
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it should be common knowledge to any manager really, if you are drawing 3 games but go for a win in all 3 yet lose 2 win 1 you're still on the same points as 3 draws. Only issue is the rival head to heads there can be 12 point swings so a draws not too bad since you also take 2 points off a rival so aslong as one of the losses isnt doing it vs them.
posted on 2/2/20
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure.
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Absolutely.
That season was easy for us. And we were able to play without any pressure that meant that such a high points total became easier to achieve.
That's exactly the point that I was making. It was easier for City that season. This season has been easier for Liverpool for the same reason.
I don't want that comment to come across as belittling such an achievement. After all, both clubs started the season on zero points and had to earn the right to put themselves in such a position. I have nothing but admiration for what Liverpool are doing this season (and last for that matter). But a lack of challenge does make it easier.
posted on 2/2/20
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
posted on 2/2/20
“I agree, you must be aware your squad cost what 300m more than Liverpools so i dont think 2 injuries albeit to key players can be an excuse. you already start the season with 4 VVD's worth more than us. Kompany was a huge loss even from the dressing room, thats clear to see.”
It isn’t but it depends what you think it’s excusing. We’ve a few players that are absolutely critical to how we play regardless of how much the potential back up cost - as I said I don’t think the performances have been that far off, those players have been the difference makers for us over the last couple of seasons though. We also didn’t recruit in areas we should have done and don’t have the same level of back up for.
It isn’t an excuse at all for us as a club though, it’s an error. I don’t think it’s anywhere even close to a terminal or long term one though.
posted on 2/2/20
City will be back next season no doubt, very hard to win three on the spin
posted on 2/2/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 4 minutes ago
Same could be said of your record breaking 17/18 season the rest gave it easy for you that at xmas u were so far ahead there was no pressure.
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Absolutely.
That season was easy for us. And we were able to play without any pressure that meant that such a high points total became easier to achieve.
That's exactly the point that I was making. It was easier for City that season. This season has been easier for Liverpool for the same reason.
I don't want that comment to come across as belittling such an achievement. After all, both clubs started the season on zero points and had to earn the right to put themselves in such a position. I have nothing but admiration for what Liverpool are doing this season (and last for that matter). But a lack of challenge does make it easier.
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And as i said the challenge or the threat city pose was evident last season 97 points and finishing second is unheard of, i dont think you being 1 point behind etc was needed, they already knew the pressure they were under and the levels required.
posted on 2/2/20
Also trust me, the pressure doesnt go away until its mathematically done, especially after as long of a wait.
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I often think of Andy Cole when making this point about pressure.
It was often said that Cole needed several chances to score. At United at that time he was virtually guaranteed several chances per game. If he fluffed a chance, he knew that another would come in the same game.
Which meant that he didn't feel that much pressure to score from his first chance. Meaning that he would, quite often, score from his first chance.
Now, the same player plays for another team - a team that may only create one or two chances per game (at most). And that player knows that he has to score, because another chance won't come along. And he inevitably misses!!
Confidence and pressure plays a massive part in football. Mentality when compared to ability is a bigger component in what makes a player (and a team as a collective) reach the top of the game.
Klopp has instilled such a mentality into Liverpool. That mentality has turned players into world beaters. Full credit for that.
posted on 2/2/20
And as i said the challenge or the threat city pose was evident last season 97 points and finishing second is unheard of, i dont think you being 1 point behind etc was needed, they already knew the pressure they were under and the levels required.
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Yeah, it's a fair and valid point inbefore.
I do think though that Liverpool thought this season would have been tougher than it's actually been. Hence a reduced sense of pressure in that respect.
City rose to that pressure last season to usurp Liverpool to the league title. Liverpool have learnt from that and taken it a step further. City have succumbed to it and fallen way short.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
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You are very bitter, it is unreal. When City won the league with 100 points the rest were garbage.
There was no top 6 when Arsenal won the league and the only team you had to compete with was Man United.
We went to Spurs and dominated them.
posted on 2/2/20
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair the competiton from the traditional Top 6 has been poor. Worst I have seen and will go down as the worst in history.
Arsenal in the bottom 10, the rest inconsistent. When did Top 6 teams struggle to beat even the best team at home. What spurs did to City is what u would expect to happen if Liverpool came to spurs but none of the top 6 teams have even showed fight except United weirdly enough who actually have a very good record against the top teams.
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You are very bitter, it is unreal. When City won the league with 100 points the rest were garbage.
There was no top 6 when Arsenal won the league and the only team you had to compete with was Man United.
We went to Spurs and dominated them.
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Unfortunately some of the gooners and even their ex players from the invincible era have been bitter. The season they won as invincibles united finished only 3rd and were like 9 points or so below the previous season total I think (so they were poor) Liverpool as you keep telling us were always poor and indeed finished 4th but sacked houllier as we lost like near 10 league games I think. This league is poorer is nonsense. Was last year poor as well and the season before? Because last year Chelsea 3r place team were over 20 points behind us in 2nd.
The only fans who I found to be reasonable of our achievement and not belittling it are the city fans.
posted on 2/2/20
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
posted on 2/2/20
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 19 seconds ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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It will.def be closer next year between these two.bi way we will win the amount of games we have this season. But I reckon it will.need someone to get plus 95 points to win it.
posted on 2/2/20
This league is poorer is nonsense.
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Totally agree Goofy.
I don't really understand why people would say this kind of thing, as though it's a win of some sort.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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Absolutely.
As much as you can admire a coach who consistently wins trophies, the true measure comes when things dont go your way, and how you react.
And I certainly expect a reaction from City and their manager next season.
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