comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 19 seconds ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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It will.def be closer next year between these two.bi way we will win the amount of games we have this season. But I reckon it will.need someone to get plus 95 points to win it.
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Looks like the bar has been set by two outstanding teams, with two outstanding managers.
Think it might be a little while before we see a Premier League champion winning with 80 odd points or less.
That's a little unfair Jlou.
I get your point, and it's valid, but only to an extent. The true measure is actually in winning trophies. Retaining them is harder, but that doesn't mean that winning them in the first place should be reduced as an achievement.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
I don’t really think city have even been much worse than last season in terms of how they’ve played. There’s been a few games they just haven’t seemed to be up for it but other than that it’s really just the wastefulness in front of goal that’s cost them.
We’ve been extremely clinical in front of goal though and that’s where the difference lies
I don't think anyone can say whether its easier or not, not even the players. We can guess though.
Great article though Ripleys. Enjoyed it.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tactics hasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
I really don’t get it, I get the argument if people said he overanalyses at times. Inability to adapt is just crazy though.
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
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To echo Melton's comment, you've not had to be close to perfection to win (you will win) the title this season. That you are close to perfection however is testament to the attitude that Klopp has installed in Liverpool this season. 100 points was unheard of. It looks like you're going to reach 100 points and them some with ease.
That harks back to my point in my OP. Had we pushed you harder, then, well, it would have been harder to attain.
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But the other view is that City’s struggles have come about because of our perfect run.
God knows how the City lads and Pep must feel in the dressing room when they hear that Liverpool have won again.
I think its clearly hit your squad hard. So it’s not a case of City not pushing hard enough, I just think we’ve been too good.
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tacticshasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
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His tactics are one dimensional. It is all pass pass and when that doesn't work he has no other plan.
I have said many times if teams were smart and played for set pieces they would smash city with their midget players. The other weakness is balls over the top and in the channels between their CB'S and fullbacks.
That's completely wrong too though. We go long ball to the flanks all the time. We also go long to bypass the
press from both the keeper and the defence.
It's really lazy stereotyping that I'd understand from people that don't watch and just read cliches on the internet. Let's not go that low on a dedicated football forum though, surely.
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posted 5 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tacticshasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
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His tactics are one dimensional. It is all pass pass and when that doesn't work he has no other plan.
I have said many times if teams were smart and played for set pieces they would smash city with their midget players. The other weakness is balls over the top and in the channels between their CB'S and fullbacks.
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10 years , 29 trophies and you still wonder why opponents haven’t figured out if they play the high ball and setpieces they can beat Peps teams
I often wonder why managers call Pep the best manager in the world and so called clever fans think the opposite because of an imagined theory that if teams tried the long ball and set pieces they could all get 100 points I guess.
The Freedom to express nonsense is a draw back in today’s society.
You an absolute moron
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 hours, 37 minutes ago
That's completely wrong too though. We go long ball to the flanks all the time. We also go long to bypass the
press from both the keeper and the defence.
It's really lazy stereotyping that I'd understand from people that don't watch and just read cliches on the internet. Let's not go that low on a dedicated football forum though, surely.
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A football forum. This is a place for banter, and some of these childish fans have no clue about football.
No team exploits The high ball more than man united who actually have the one of the best records against Top 6 teams despite missing Pogba, Rashford and Martial for most of the season but no manager can train his team to play that way consistently and expect to win trophies.
You can’t train to not have the ball all the time. You will never win anything. Managers rightly train players to play possession football because in the long run you will win more points and are likely to stay in the league than long ball teams.
Long ball football as a long term strategy is moronic. No chairman should accept it.
But this scouse lady boy wonders why it’s not a widely used tactic.
It’s annoying to see brain dead fans
Speaking of playing without pressure, that seems to be the case for Jesus imo. Not sure about him filling the void when Sergio leaves.
Obviously the amount of goals we are conceding compared to chances conceded is the biggest problem though. Odd how many chances we need to convert with a world class attack vs our opponents who often aren’t of the same quality. And something to address in the summer for sure.
I agree RE the impact of David Silva leaving, we have players ready to step up in and around that area. Out wide Sane can’t return quick enough though, even if he only plays in blue for a few months there are three cup competitions still to compete in, and Sterling’s form at the moment is wretched.
Sterling is not a player that City can build upon, he was ineffective against Spurs and has been poor all season. City need to get rid of him and cut their losses.
Im not sure Sterling gas been poor all season given how many goals and assists he has. In fact first three mobths of the season he was one of the best players in Europe and at 25 years of age theyd be mad to let him go.
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sterling is not a player that City can build upon, he was ineffective against Spurs and has been poor all season. City need to get rid of him and cut their losses.
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He hasn’t. He’s been poor since the Gomes incident. He was great the first few months.
Liverpool ran away with it on their own merit. Not because there was 'no pressure'. This is a pityful excuse.
Pep making mistakes by not investing wisely is a valid point. But you have to consider the mindset of Klopp. He was very close last year and it would be in line with his coaching to tunnelvision their way to glory - with or without pressure.
To reiterate: Liverpool is not doing so well because of City's poor form and mishappenings. City's demise is their own doing. Liverpool prospering is of their own making so there is no advantage to be taken. If you disagree then you heavily underestimate the mentality of Liverpools squad which includes a hint of wrath, hence why they're relentless and want to avoid a repeat of last year.
Still don't get it? If Laporte and Sané would be fit, if Kompany didn't leave, Liverpool would likely have the same amount of points. Like Klopp says: we dont look at the opposition, we look at ourselves.
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posted on 2/2/20
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 19 seconds ago
Yeah, that truth Jlou, was pretty much outlined in my OP.
Full credit to Klopp for that.
Now it's Pep's turn to see if he can rise the challenge. Klopp has certainly proved he can.
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It will.def be closer next year between these two.bi way we will win the amount of games we have this season. But I reckon it will.need someone to get plus 95 points to win it.
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Looks like the bar has been set by two outstanding teams, with two outstanding managers.
Think it might be a little while before we see a Premier League champion winning with 80 odd points or less.
posted on 2/2/20
That's a little unfair Jlou.
I get your point, and it's valid, but only to an extent. The true measure is actually in winning trophies. Retaining them is harder, but that doesn't mean that winning them in the first place should be reduced as an achievement.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
posted on 2/2/20
I don’t really think city have even been much worse than last season in terms of how they’ve played. There’s been a few games they just haven’t seemed to be up for it but other than that it’s really just the wastefulness in front of goal that’s cost them.
We’ve been extremely clinical in front of goal though and that’s where the difference lies
posted on 2/2/20
I don't think anyone can say whether its easier or not, not even the players. We can guess though.
posted on 2/2/20
Great article though Ripleys. Enjoyed it.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tactics hasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
posted on 2/2/20
I really don’t get it, I get the argument if people said he overanalyses at times. Inability to adapt is just crazy though.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
His response “ We need to be very, very close to perfection to win the Premier League”
Who would’ve foreseen how prophetic those words were going to be.
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To echo Melton's comment, you've not had to be close to perfection to win (you will win) the title this season. That you are close to perfection however is testament to the attitude that Klopp has installed in Liverpool this season. 100 points was unheard of. It looks like you're going to reach 100 points and them some with ease.
That harks back to my point in my OP. Had we pushed you harder, then, well, it would have been harder to attain.
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But the other view is that City’s struggles have come about because of our perfect run.
God knows how the City lads and Pep must feel in the dressing room when they hear that Liverpool have won again.
I think its clearly hit your squad hard. So it’s not a case of City not pushing hard enough, I just think we’ve been too good.
posted on 2/2/20
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tacticshasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
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His tactics are one dimensional. It is all pass pass and when that doesn't work he has no other plan.
I have said many times if teams were smart and played for set pieces they would smash city with their midget players. The other weakness is balls over the top and in the channels between their CB'S and fullbacks.
posted on 2/2/20
That's completely wrong too though. We go long ball to the flanks all the time. We also go long to bypass the
press from both the keeper and the defence.
It's really lazy stereotyping that I'd understand from people that don't watch and just read cliches on the internet. Let's not go that low on a dedicated football forum though, surely.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by The Mane Man - WORLD CHAMPIONS-"Sadio, I’ll get him back don’t worry.” (U19731)
posted 5 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by gunnersaurus rex (U21846)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the truth is, Klopp has worked hard to catch City, or at least match them over the last few years, and with a combination of astute transfers, both in and out of the club, and his ability as a coach, we have now overtaken City.
By the end of season 2017/18, we finished 25 points behind City, 2018/19 Liverpool made up that gap to 1 point, and this season, 2019/20 Liverpool look like having a similar gap as probable champions, as City had over Liverpool in 2018.
When Klopp arrived at Anfield, it was thought that he basically had one way of playing, hard press, high intensity etc etc.
He has shown he can adapt, can change the teams style when needed, and is rightfully reaping the rewards.
I'm not sure Pep possesses the same ability tactically as Klopp, which has probably cost City this season.
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That just sounds like the narrative you want it to be rather than actually watching any of our games tbh.
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Of course this is only my opinion, but to be fair, I haven't missed many Man City games this season.
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I don’t really get how you can have the opinion that Guardiola can’t adapt tactically then? Even forgetting this season, no team gets to the points level either of us got without changing how they play against certain opponents, but Guardiola does it even more often than most.
This season in isolation though, we’ve had plenty of games where we’ve had plenty more chances than the opposition, today’s game being a case in point. We’re struggling due to players performances in certain areas (and someof that can be laid at Guardiola for choosing who he has done), not tactics.
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Doesnt change tacticshasnt Pep played a different formation in the last 10 games. he even had 2 right backs in the united game for facks sakes so that they could track uniteds runners. He even mentioned it in the post match presser.
Do some fans watch football matches or they just regurgitate Talksport narratives and call them their own opinions.
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His tactics are one dimensional. It is all pass pass and when that doesn't work he has no other plan.
I have said many times if teams were smart and played for set pieces they would smash city with their midget players. The other weakness is balls over the top and in the channels between their CB'S and fullbacks.
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10 years , 29 trophies and you still wonder why opponents haven’t figured out if they play the high ball and setpieces they can beat Peps teams
I often wonder why managers call Pep the best manager in the world and so called clever fans think the opposite because of an imagined theory that if teams tried the long ball and set pieces they could all get 100 points I guess.
The Freedom to express nonsense is a draw back in today’s society.
You an absolute moron
posted on 3/2/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 hours, 37 minutes ago
That's completely wrong too though. We go long ball to the flanks all the time. We also go long to bypass the
press from both the keeper and the defence.
It's really lazy stereotyping that I'd understand from people that don't watch and just read cliches on the internet. Let's not go that low on a dedicated football forum though, surely.
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A football forum. This is a place for banter, and some of these childish fans have no clue about football.
No team exploits The high ball more than man united who actually have the one of the best records against Top 6 teams despite missing Pogba, Rashford and Martial for most of the season but no manager can train his team to play that way consistently and expect to win trophies.
You can’t train to not have the ball all the time. You will never win anything. Managers rightly train players to play possession football because in the long run you will win more points and are likely to stay in the league than long ball teams.
Long ball football as a long term strategy is moronic. No chairman should accept it.
But this scouse lady boy wonders why it’s not a widely used tactic.
It’s annoying to see brain dead fans
posted on 3/2/20
Speaking of playing without pressure, that seems to be the case for Jesus imo. Not sure about him filling the void when Sergio leaves.
Obviously the amount of goals we are conceding compared to chances conceded is the biggest problem though. Odd how many chances we need to convert with a world class attack vs our opponents who often aren’t of the same quality. And something to address in the summer for sure.
I agree RE the impact of David Silva leaving, we have players ready to step up in and around that area. Out wide Sane can’t return quick enough though, even if he only plays in blue for a few months there are three cup competitions still to compete in, and Sterling’s form at the moment is wretched.
posted on 3/2/20
Sterling is not a player that City can build upon, he was ineffective against Spurs and has been poor all season. City need to get rid of him and cut their losses.
posted on 3/2/20
Im not sure Sterling gas been poor all season given how many goals and assists he has. In fact first three mobths of the season he was one of the best players in Europe and at 25 years of age theyd be mad to let him go.
posted on 3/2/20
comment by Globaled (U7198)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sterling is not a player that City can build upon, he was ineffective against Spurs and has been poor all season. City need to get rid of him and cut their losses.
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He hasn’t. He’s been poor since the Gomes incident. He was great the first few months.
posted on 6/2/20
Liverpool ran away with it on their own merit. Not because there was 'no pressure'. This is a pityful excuse.
Pep making mistakes by not investing wisely is a valid point. But you have to consider the mindset of Klopp. He was very close last year and it would be in line with his coaching to tunnelvision their way to glory - with or without pressure.
To reiterate: Liverpool is not doing so well because of City's poor form and mishappenings. City's demise is their own doing. Liverpool prospering is of their own making so there is no advantage to be taken. If you disagree then you heavily underestimate the mentality of Liverpools squad which includes a hint of wrath, hence why they're relentless and want to avoid a repeat of last year.
Still don't get it? If Laporte and Sané would be fit, if Kompany didn't leave, Liverpool would likely have the same amount of points. Like Klopp says: we dont look at the opposition, we look at ourselves.
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