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posted on 3/4/20

comment by Ole-Dirty-Baztard (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 40 minutes ago
I hate them fackers that come in who have sickness and the squirts . And you always find yourself sat near the facker.

They look like an extra from a George a Romero movie all pale and groaning selfish fackers.
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This. I hate disease and illness, I stay well clear as much as I can wash hands after everything, basically doing what we’ve been told to now.

Those feckers who think that they are too important to have a sick day off, are usually the complete opposite, and are just selfish erseholes
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Can’t stand those idiots who come in when genuinely unwell because they think the place will fall down without them

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 3/4/20

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yup, my wife had doctor notes for every absence. Still got the warning. She went in one day completely miserable because she had been warned that a next time she would get an official reprimand, and I had to pick her up from work because she was sick and couldnt even drive back. Explaining her situation to her team leader in a 1:1 didnt help, And she got an official warning indeed. So I wrote the appeal in her name and they retracted the warning realising they had been utter caaants about it.

posted on 3/4/20

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posted on 4/4/20

Most reasonable employers have these "trigger points" of absence as guidelines. Every individual who reaches/breaches these trigger points should be looked at on an individual basis, but also condisidering consistency too.

For example, if you are off 5 times in a year with differing minor reasons and they are not being proactive then I'd say its likely further action may be taken.

However, someone else who has had 5 occasions in a rolling year could have an underlying health condition that they are being proactive with managing by going to specialists to try and treat the underlying issue. In these cases, the employer should work with the employee to help them and give them the time off they need to meet appointments and consider any reasonable adjustments that could be made in the workplace to help.

No two instances are usually the same. I'm a manager who deals with sickness and Return to Work Interviews and I genuinely feel for some people. I have a young lady who recently had a baby and ever since has suffered quite severely with sepsis to the point she was close to dying. She picks up all sorts of illnesses at the moment and I wouldn't dream of taking further action.

That said, I have gone down the displinary route with others when there are no apparent underlying issues and the employee has not been proactive in managing this health.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 9 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yup, my wife had doctor notes for every absence. Still got the warning. She went in one day completely miserable because she had been warned that a next time she would get an official reprimand, and I had to pick her up from work because she was sick and couldnt even drive back. Explaining her situation to her team leader in a 1:1 didnt help, And she got an official warning indeed. So I wrote the appeal in her name and they retracted the warning realising they had been utter caaants about it.
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Without knowing the detail, I hope your wife is OK. The employer does sound like they made a mistake.

That said, some people think that a medical certificate should automatically cover them. This isn't always the case. They are often so easy to get from some doctors and on some occasions you don't even need to see the doctor to get one.

posted on 4/4/20

Employers are not charities. If you have an excessive amount of sickness, then you deserve a warning. However, if you have an underlying issue that you are managing, then employers should build in a tolerance within their sickness management.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by Bake 'em away toys (U7303)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Most reasonable employers have these "trigger points" of absence as guidelines. Every individual who reaches/breaches these trigger points should be looked at on an individual basis, but also condisidering consistency too.

For example, if you are off 5 times in a year with differing minor reasons and they are not being proactive then I'd say its likely further action may be taken.

However, someone else who has had 5 occasions in a rolling year could have an underlying health condition that they are being proactive with managing by going to specialists to try and treat the underlying issue. In these cases, the employer should work with the employee to help them and give them the time off they need to meet appointments and consider any reasonable adjustments that could be made in the workplace to help.

No two instances are usually the same. I'm a manager who deals with sickness and Return to Work Interviews and I genuinely feel for some people. I have a young lady who recently had a baby and ever since has suffered quite severely with sepsis to the point she was close to dying. She picks up all sorts of illnesses at the moment and I wouldn't dream of taking further action.

That said, I have gone down the displinary route with others when there are no apparent underlying issues and the employee has not been proactive in managing this health.
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In my old job I was going through a stage of having a lot of time off , it was not a case of I couldn't be bothered I just couldn't function. Turns out I had sleep apnea.

When you first start CPAP you go through a stage called sleep response . It's where your brain says get up and going your body says fack that I ended up taking about three weeks off in total.

Got back to work and was told unless I improve my absence they may take further action. They knew my illness , turns out they couldn't because it's a legit illness that can't be helped.

posted on 4/4/20

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posted on 4/4/20

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 4/4/20

You also have the other end of the scale where people call in sick because too often and take the pee.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 4/4/20

I'm lucky enough to have the ability to have WFH long before this virus, so if you have a cold you can still work just not in the office.

Hopefully more employers will now see this as a viable option.

posted on 4/4/20

Staying off work with a cold!

Get a grip guys!!

This virus is one thing but a common cold!

posted on 4/4/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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Do you work for the third reich?

posted on 4/4/20

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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Do you work for the third reich?
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Feels like it sometimes. It doesnt really affect people on salary, only hourly paid workers as the strange phenomenon of salaried workers who get paid for being off sick but have a much lower percentage of sick days compared to hourly paid workers who don't get paid, comes into it.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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Do you work for the third reich?
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Feels like it sometimes. It doesnt really affect people on salary, only hourly paid workers as the strange phenomenon of salaried workers who get paid for being off sick but have a much lower percentage of sick days compared to hourly paid workers who don't get paid, comes into it.
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Stay safe it looks according to the experts that the surge is coming next weekend over here

posted on 4/4/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.


posted on 4/4/20

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posted on 4/4/20

comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.



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you missed 3 years out of 5 because you hurt your ankle? what a pu**y.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.



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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.



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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.
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Im on an hourly rate!

My company pay 6 mths full pay and a further weeks full pay for every year you’ve worked there, then you drop down to 75%

posted on 4/4/20

What if the experts are wrong and we should be staying 12 feet apart instead of six? The compo claims against the government could bankrupt the country.

posted on 4/4/20

comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.



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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.
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Im on an hourly rate!

My company pay 6 mths full pay and a further weeks full pay for every year you’ve worked there, then you drop down to 75%
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Mine don't, otherwise people would be off left, right and centre.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 4/4/20

comment by goadocwatson (U1016)
posted 26 minutes ago
What if the experts are wrong and we should be staying 12 feet apart instead of six? The compo claims against the government could bankrupt the country.

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There won't be any compo claims for a disease. Otherwise we'd all get compo for the flu, cancer etc.

They can easily defend themselves by saying they also suggested isolation, healthy eating, exersize etc all of which prevent death.

posted on 4/4/20

Which sad person would even think about claiming?

posted on 4/4/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RED666๐Ÿ‘บ. (U6562)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
In my job, if you have three periods of absence within 6 months, you get a warning.
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Even if completely legitimate?
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Yes mate. It's ridiculous.
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That’s not “ridiculous” in any shape or form!

If you are paid in full during your absence then I can totally see where your company is coming from!

They have to have some sort of control over absence through illness, otherwise you’d be getting people taking the piiiss, the company that I work for also have controls in place for absence and one of the reasons it’s done is to make sure we keep our sickness scheme going to ensure you get paid your full wage and not statutory sick pay when absent.

Few years back I snapped my ankle and over a 5 year period I had 4 operations in which I was probably off work for a total of 3 years, I did have one or two phased returns in between the operations but I never lost a penny due to having the sick scheme.



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The people who get warnings only get statutory sick pay as they are hourly paid.
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Im on an hourly rate!

My company pay 6 mths full pay and a further weeks full pay for every year you’ve worked there, then you drop down to 75%
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Mine don't, otherwise people would be off left, right and centre.
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Ok mate, guess I’m one of the lucky ones, we do have some that take the piiiss, however the bad ones are now getting taken off the sick scheme for a year.

I’m really lucky to work for a decent company, the vulnerable workers have been told to have 3mths off on full pay.

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