Expect the overall quality of all the British leagues to suffer in due course...

Could also stop the rubbish ones too and give English players a better chance.

True, but then if the 'rubbish' EU players are stopping their English / British counterparts, perhaps they're simply not good enough anyway?

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
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True, but then if the 'rubbish' EU players are stopping their English / British counterparts, perhaps they're simply not good enough anyway?
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I don’t subscribe to this tbh. Clubs and fans definitely would give a player bought in from abroad more time than a academy prospect imo even if the younger player is better.

Look how Chelsea’s youngster are doing now they’ve been given a chance.

Tbh it don’t have much affect onto the premier league but the leagues below will probably find it harder bringing in from abroad.

Surely they understand the progression of our youth and academies atm is due to finally accepting foreign influence, be it from our kids learning from the top foreign talent in academies or the routines and methods used changing to foreign ones not just picking the quickest/tallest/strongest as we used to.

'Look how Chelsea’s youngster are doing now they’ve been given a chance.'

Agreed. But I'm sure Chelsea supporters would rather their academy lads look to the likes of Eden Hazard for inspiration - or perhaps N'Golo Kanté as a better example - rather than Ross Barkley and Danny Drinkwater?

Its been doing so well, Englands unders have been thriving over recent years... They should be doing everything possible to keep it as it is. The fact they think they need to come up with some silly point system and that itll somehow benefit homegrown talent more is ridiculous.

There were a lot less European players playing in England during the 80s, and barely any (as far as I'm aware) during the 70s.

And England were terrible.

French wine, German beer and Swedish women have stunted the development of our own far superior products.

Should add that this system does not solely relate to players but non-playing staff too.

The elite clubs will be better equipped to handle but can see lower league clubs really struggling to bring in the staff they require from overseas, when they need to.

Oh, I hadn't even thought about that.

Much of Arteta's coaching staff would be fine under the new points system, but how would someone like Inaki Cana Pavon fair, I wonder?

'Pavon comes in as goalkeeping coach from Brentford to work with Sal Bibbo.

'Inaki previously worked in Spain and Denmark after starting his playing career at Barcelona.'

- Arsenal.com

Would Brentford have been able to employ him?

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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
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True, but then if the 'rubbish' EU players are stopping their English / British counterparts, perhaps they're simply not good enough anyway?
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I don’t subscribe to this tbh. Clubs and fans definitely would give a player bought in from abroad more time than a academy prospect imo even if the younger player is better.
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??? This is the complete opposite of the truth

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comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
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True, but then if the 'rubbish' EU players are stopping their English / British counterparts, perhaps they're simply not good enough anyway?
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I don’t subscribe to this tbh. Clubs and fans definitely would give a player bought in from abroad more time than a academy prospect imo even if the younger player is better.
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??? This is the complete opposite of the truth
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Is it? Not from what I’ve seen especially lower down when I was a academy coach.

Look at spurs purchasing a £30m sissoko who lets be honest is a nice lad but pretty awful footballer blocking the likes of u20 World Cup winner Onomah or us buying Nkoudou/Nike for 10a of millions while we had a U20 World Cup winner Edwards sitting on the side lines waiting for a chance.

I bet there’s countless other teams that have done the same thing.

Maybe more time is wrong but would definitely prefer a player being bought in than to use what they have in academy.

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comment by Joe Goldberg (U18355)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
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comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
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True, but then if the 'rubbish' EU players are stopping their English / British counterparts, perhaps they're simply not good enough anyway?
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I don’t subscribe to this tbh. Clubs and fans definitely would give a player bought in from abroad more time than a academy prospect imo even if the younger player is better.
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??? This is the complete opposite of the truth
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Is it? Not from what I’ve seen especially lower down when I was a academy coach.

Look at spurs purchasing a £30m sissoko who lets be honest is a nice lad but pretty awful footballer blocking the likes of u20 World Cup winner Onomah or us buying Nkoudou/Nike for 10a of millions while we had a U20 World Cup winner Edwards sitting on the side lines waiting for a chance.

I bet there’s countless other teams that have done the same thing.
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I think the main issue here is choice.

UK based clubs will still be able to bring in the staff they need from home.

But if they can't, or there's a skills shortage, and want to recruit from European markets it will be much harder to do so.

Smaller clubs will obviously be impacted more than others. Which at a time when budgets will be tight (at best) at it is following the CV19 fallout, isn't exactly great news.

So effectively in the future British clubs - and as you say especially those further down the leagues - will be forced to recruit from a much smaller, potentially (probably) less talented pool of trainers.

How on earth is that going to help enhance, and increase, the quality of British football talent?

comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
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Maybe more time is wrong but would definitely prefer a player being bought in than to use what they have in academy.
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Not sure this is true of most sets of supporters tbh.

For example I think more Gooners would've preferred to see Krystian Bielik (yeah, I know) given more on a chance to grow at the club, than see Mohamed Elneny blocking his way.

There are many other examples I could think of too... some more painful than others (Serge Gnabry )

We’ll have to see how it goes really but I think it won’t be a bad thing overall

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 19 minutes ago
So effectively in the future British clubs - and as you say especially those further down the leagues - will be forced to recruit from a much smaller, potentially (probably) less talented pool of trainers.

How on earth is that going to help enhance, and increase, the quality of British football talent?
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Genius isn't it.

Have a feeling these proposals (much like non-skilled categorisation has been) will be softened as they are self harming.

That said, there are a host of (Brexit related) issues whereby political ideology has trumped the needs of the country...

'Have a feeling these proposals (much like non-skilled categorisation has been) will be softened as they are self harming.'

The Premier League has been sold around the globe as this festival of football, where elite players from round the globe gather and embellish the efforts - and more often than not mask the technical inadequacies - of that grittiest of sporting coagulations, the British football kicker.

However most of the time these foreign talents are unaffordable to all bar a handful of English clubs, so they're bought over still raw and unknown, ready to be nurtured and elevated stardom and, more importunely 'MARKETABILITY!'.

With this route to a quick buck seemingly about to be cut off, the inevitable decline in quality will be matched by a decrease in the money on offer to broadcast it.

And whilst it could be argued that, morally speaking, British clubs should be stopped from shipping over young men with promises of potential fame and fortune (or simply fortune) anyway, it feels like in our fervent attempt to finally master 'Zonal Marking' us Brits have scored a spectacular OG here.

Don’t think Arsenal would want Fabregas and Anelka is too old and wouldn’t want to rejoin, unless we gave him and his brothers a lot of money.