comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Great Welshpool, we’re in agreement that I’m not accusing you alone.
Now, I don’t regard ‘you ruined the thread’ to be the same as ‘you’re partly responsible for ruining the thread’.
So I stand by my comment that I didn’t say you’d ruined the thread.
If it’s a case of misinterpretation then so be it. Hardly a big deal worth several pages more.
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Except I posted the exact quote and nowhere did you say "you're partly responsible for ruining the thread". You said I created the debate and the debate ruined the thread.
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Didn’t I say that you surely must accept part of the blame?
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That isn't "you are partly responsible for ruining the thread". It also followed a random point about you (Winston) not being perfect. There was nowhere in the comment that stated that you (Winston) contributed to the ruination of the thread.
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Well perhaps it wasn’t clear enough for you. I thought it was.
But it should be clear now at least.
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Not really. You accused me of something very specific and then denied ever doing so.
I think you need to hold your hand up and admit this.
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Wrong.
You completely misinterpreted what I’d said and I quickly explained it for you when I realised the misunderstanding.
I can see how it happened. No big deal.
To call me a liar is laughable and perhaps you’ve let the thread get to you.
No hard feelings on my side anyway.
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
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Right, so it’s okay for you to think its my fault and to say so, but it’s not okay for me to disagree and politely call it a misunderstanding.
Gotcha.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
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Right, so it’s okay for you to think its my fault and to say so, but it’s not okay for me to disagree and politely call it a misunderstanding.
Gotcha.
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Yes because I have literally got all the evidence that shows that I interpreted the words that were used correctly. You have said that it was a misunderstanding so that will mean that the words that you used weren't sufficient to convey your meaning.
So you offering to just call it a mutual misunderstanding simple comes across as a way for you to avoid saying "sorry - I made a mistake there".
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
Welshpool, you have major issues with accepting alternative opinion.
In my view, it was perfectly clear what I meant.
You have no evidence to the contrary, only your opinion. And to be honest, this is all rather silly.
I tried to be civil, on more than one occasion, but you just want to argue and blame me for everything.
Surely you’re better than this.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said and am quite content with my points.
You disagree with them.
I suggest you go and find a quiet room and calm down.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said and am quite content with my points.
You disagree with them.
I suggest you go and find a quiet room and calm down.
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Here he goes. You’re so predictable.
No you haven’t backed anything up. You are lying again. As I said unless you can prove any of it shut up.
Can’t abide liars
He’s probably putting out the fire on his pants right now
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
Of course it will be his fault
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 34 seconds ago
Welshpool, you have major issues with accepting alternative opinion.
In my view, it was perfectly clear what I meant.
You have no evidence to the contrary, only your opinion. And to be honest, this is all rather silly.
I tried to be civil, on more than one occasion, but you just want to argue and blame me for everything.
Surely you’re better than this.
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It is simple. I'm a firm believer in the importance of fact and evidence. Differences of opinion are perfectly valid, if they are backed up. Otherwise I may as well accept that an anti-vaxxer has a difference of opinion when in reality their opinion is not based on the facts and that makes it dangerous.
It might have been perfectly clear to you what you meant because you are in the position of knowing what you wanted to mean when you wrote it. I have been in situations where I knew what I was trying to say when I wrote something, made a mistake in writing it, and then was unable to spot that mistake several times afterwards because my brain knew what I had intended and slid over the mistake.
I can accept your claim thay you intended to say something along the lines of 'I didn't accuse you alone of ruining the thread". However, you didn't write alone, and since I had never said you accused me "alone" then there is literally no reasonable expectation that I would gain the meaning of the word "alone". So to all extents and purposes you wrote that you didn't accuse me of ruining the thread immediately after doing precisely that. This is exactly how it read to me, to at least 3or 4 other people on the thread and how I am pretty sure it would read to most other third parties. This is the evidence that I refer to.
The fact that you only came up with the "alone" justification after pointed out your contradiction, and suggested it was a lie, and offered it without an apology makes it seem like it is a backtrack intended to try and get out of something you were caught in.
I am happy to accept that you meant it with the "alone" meaning, but this needs an acknowledgement that this particular meaning only works if the word alone is included, and therefore I cannot be expected to have understood what you meant without it. This means it is a miscommunication rather than a misinterpretation.
Your attempt at "being civil" in reality is an attempt to say that there was equal blame and whilst that may seem to you like you are being fair and civil and I am not, it actually just appears to me as an attempt to admit your error without actually having to explicitly amditnand apologise for it.
So it is your call really.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
Your attempt at "being civil" in reality is an attempt to say that there was equal blame and whilst that may seem to you like you are being fair and civil and I am not, it actually just appears to me as an attempt to admit your error without actually having to explicitly amditnand apologise for it.
So it is your call really.
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This is clear. He meant to attack you specifically with that post. He has some generic accusations he makes every time when he's losing. It comes as no surprise.
Welshpool, if you want the blunt truth, I think the evidence shows that your interpretation is absurd.
The fact that in the same post I actually make reference to you accepting SOME fault makes it clear.
If I wasn’t referring to ruining the thread, what on earth else did I mean?
I didn’t want to debate this. I wanted to call it a misunderstanding and move on because it’s petty and pointless.
But you insist on coming back again and again, delusional in the belief that your view is backed up with evidence when it really isn’t.
I clearly misjudged you, and not in a good way.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
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I’ve not been hypocritical at all and anyone reading this thread can see that yet again, you approach me, you attack me, you make things personal and you get upset because you are bizarrely obsessed by me.
I’m sorry you’re so affected by me but it’s your decision to come at me, not mine.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 seconds ago
Welshpool, if you want the blunt truth, I think the evidence shows that your interpretation is absurd.
The fact that in the same post I actually make reference to you accepting SOME fault makes it clear.
If I wasn’t referring to ruining the thread, what on earth else did I mean?
I didn’t want to debate this. I wanted to call it a misunderstanding and move on because it’s petty and pointless.
But you insist on coming back again and again, delusional in the belief that your view is backed up with evidence when it really isn’t.
I clearly misjudged you, and not in a good way.
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It is irrelevant if you meant me on my own or me in a group. They both include me so either way. I also never suggested that you were accusing me alone. I actually explicitly acknowledged that you weren't solely accusing me because I pointed out that you had already accused Robbing of the same thing.
So that fact that it was sole or group is irrelevant. The pertinent point is that you said I was ruining the thread, and then completely denied it in the very next comment to me. Whatever your meaning was with this denial, you didn't make that meaning clear (backed up by several other posters) and so the only meaning I decided to infer was the one that you actually wrote (I tend to read things literally where there is confusion to avoid such things - as you have noted) rather than assume a potential meaning that could be wrong.
Therefore we have two options. Either it was a genuine misunderstanding due to the word "only" or some variation being missing. If this were the case then a simple apology and acknowledgement would be acceptable.
Failing that, I will have to take your refusal to acknowledge it as a mistake as an admission that it wasn't a mistake and was actual a deliberate attempt to lie to backtrack on something.
Those are my civil options.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
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I’ve not been hypocritical at all and anyone reading this thread can see that yet again, you approach me, you attack me, you make things personal and you get upset because you are bizarrely obsessed by me.
I’m sorry you’re so affected by me but it’s your decision to come at me, not mine.
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Right, now it becomes clear.
You think me disagreeing with your reply to Robbing’s comment was an attack. No it was an opinion I expressed and backed up. If you think that was an attack you must be very sensitive. That’s on you for perceiving that as an attack.
In fact calling someone’s intellect into question is actually an attack. A tactic you often employ when losing an argument. All very pathetic and immature. Yet for some reason I’m not as upset as you are.
You set yourself very high standards on this site by telling anyone who’ll listen that your contribution is of value. You also aren’t shy in telling everyone how much more mature, intelligent, right, etc you are. Yet your actions are the total opposite, and very rarely live up to your words. You then act affronted when someone pulls you up on it as if it’s a surprise, or an attack.
Don’t be surprised people disagree with you. You often express contentious and ridiculous opinions that attract disagreement and ridicule.
I’m sorry you feel like you were attacked. Luckily I can rest assured anyone reading this can see you lack both a spine and any sort of credibility in your opinion.
But Welshpool, I explained to you several times, my denial was in relation to the belief that you’d taken it to mean you alone.
It was absolutely clear what I meant, because I went onto outline that I meant you as part of a group of people.
Clearly I wouldn’t do that unless I thought you may believe I meant you alone.
So there’s no need for me to apologise. I was very clear and you made a mistake. I think that’s because you’ve been desperate to point score on this thread and so you jumped too quickly and then realised your error,
You won’t admit that of course.
Now, you may take exception to this. Therefore, I’ll remind you I tried to call it a misunderstanding and move on without mentioning it.
But you’re intent on arguing so here we are.
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posted on 23/5/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Great Welshpool, we’re in agreement that I’m not accusing you alone.
Now, I don’t regard ‘you ruined the thread’ to be the same as ‘you’re partly responsible for ruining the thread’.
So I stand by my comment that I didn’t say you’d ruined the thread.
If it’s a case of misinterpretation then so be it. Hardly a big deal worth several pages more.
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Except I posted the exact quote and nowhere did you say "you're partly responsible for ruining the thread". You said I created the debate and the debate ruined the thread.
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Didn’t I say that you surely must accept part of the blame?
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That isn't "you are partly responsible for ruining the thread". It also followed a random point about you (Winston) not being perfect. There was nowhere in the comment that stated that you (Winston) contributed to the ruination of the thread.
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Well perhaps it wasn’t clear enough for you. I thought it was.
But it should be clear now at least.
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Not really. You accused me of something very specific and then denied ever doing so.
I think you need to hold your hand up and admit this.
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Wrong.
You completely misinterpreted what I’d said and I quickly explained it for you when I realised the misunderstanding.
I can see how it happened. No big deal.
To call me a liar is laughable and perhaps you’ve let the thread get to you.
No hard feelings on my side anyway.
posted on 23/5/20
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
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Right, so it’s okay for you to think its my fault and to say so, but it’s not okay for me to disagree and politely call it a misunderstanding.
Gotcha.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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Yeah apparently it is my fault that he didn't express his meaning properly because he used the wrong words. A simple "I'm sorry - I didn't make my meaning clear" would have solved it.
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I believe I called it a misunderstanding.
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Yes but a misunderstanding isn't the full thing. I believe that in this instance the misunderstanding was caused because you didn't make your meaning clear in what you wrote, rather than it being a bad interpretation of the words by me.
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Right, so it’s okay for you to think its my fault and to say so, but it’s not okay for me to disagree and politely call it a misunderstanding.
Gotcha.
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Yes because I have literally got all the evidence that shows that I interpreted the words that were used correctly. You have said that it was a misunderstanding so that will mean that the words that you used weren't sufficient to convey your meaning.
So you offering to just call it a mutual misunderstanding simple comes across as a way for you to avoid saying "sorry - I made a mistake there".
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
posted on 23/5/20
Welshpool, you have major issues with accepting alternative opinion.
In my view, it was perfectly clear what I meant.
You have no evidence to the contrary, only your opinion. And to be honest, this is all rather silly.
I tried to be civil, on more than one occasion, but you just want to argue and blame me for everything.
Surely you’re better than this.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said and am quite content with my points.
You disagree with them.
I suggest you go and find a quiet room and calm down.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 29 seconds ago
“ No hard feelings on my side anyway.”
When Winston realises he’s in the wrong and is backing down. He’ll tell you this is him admitting when he’s wrong
Watch how seriously he’ll take this.
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You mean except the part where I’ve pointed out I’m not wrong?
I think Welshpool is generally decent and so I’m trying to be amicable.
Can’t say the same for all people on here.
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Told you
Have a day off Winston FFS. You’ve had a mare here. I don’t doubt you’re a decent lad in real life. But you’re off your head here.
No doubt you’ll chalk this off as some kind of victory. though.
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Not sure what makes you think that, it’s a bit of a car crash for all involved to be honest.
Even when closing you seem really angsty.
As usual you came at me and ended up losing it. Try being more civil in future and maybe we’ll have decent chats.
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There you go making stuff up again.
No, I disagreed with something you said. Nothing contentious.
I’m not the only one, and in the majority in fact. You’ve dodged from one weak point to the next to reinforce you’re already weak, and easily disprovable argument. You then went on to question my intellect because you were losing the argument. I asked you to back that false allegation up, you refused. Now you’re just being a child.
I’d suggest you look up the word civil before making stuff up about people. You’ve embarrassed yourself today.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said and am quite content with my points.
You disagree with them.
I suggest you go and find a quiet room and calm down.
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Here he goes. You’re so predictable.
No you haven’t backed anything up. You are lying again. As I said unless you can prove any of it shut up.
Can’t abide liars
posted on 23/5/20
He’s probably putting out the fire on his pants right now
posted on 23/5/20
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
posted on 23/5/20
Of course it will be his fault
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 34 seconds ago
Welshpool, you have major issues with accepting alternative opinion.
In my view, it was perfectly clear what I meant.
You have no evidence to the contrary, only your opinion. And to be honest, this is all rather silly.
I tried to be civil, on more than one occasion, but you just want to argue and blame me for everything.
Surely you’re better than this.
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It is simple. I'm a firm believer in the importance of fact and evidence. Differences of opinion are perfectly valid, if they are backed up. Otherwise I may as well accept that an anti-vaxxer has a difference of opinion when in reality their opinion is not based on the facts and that makes it dangerous.
It might have been perfectly clear to you what you meant because you are in the position of knowing what you wanted to mean when you wrote it. I have been in situations where I knew what I was trying to say when I wrote something, made a mistake in writing it, and then was unable to spot that mistake several times afterwards because my brain knew what I had intended and slid over the mistake.
I can accept your claim thay you intended to say something along the lines of 'I didn't accuse you alone of ruining the thread". However, you didn't write alone, and since I had never said you accused me "alone" then there is literally no reasonable expectation that I would gain the meaning of the word "alone". So to all extents and purposes you wrote that you didn't accuse me of ruining the thread immediately after doing precisely that. This is exactly how it read to me, to at least 3or 4 other people on the thread and how I am pretty sure it would read to most other third parties. This is the evidence that I refer to.
The fact that you only came up with the "alone" justification after pointed out your contradiction, and suggested it was a lie, and offered it without an apology makes it seem like it is a backtrack intended to try and get out of something you were caught in.
I am happy to accept that you meant it with the "alone" meaning, but this needs an acknowledgement that this particular meaning only works if the word alone is included, and therefore I cannot be expected to have understood what you meant without it. This means it is a miscommunication rather than a misinterpretation.
Your attempt at "being civil" in reality is an attempt to say that there was equal blame and whilst that may seem to you like you are being fair and civil and I am not, it actually just appears to me as an attempt to admit your error without actually having to explicitly amditnand apologise for it.
So it is your call really.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
posted on 23/5/20
Your attempt at "being civil" in reality is an attempt to say that there was equal blame and whilst that may seem to you like you are being fair and civil and I am not, it actually just appears to me as an attempt to admit your error without actually having to explicitly amditnand apologise for it.
So it is your call really.
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This is clear. He meant to attack you specifically with that post. He has some generic accusations he makes every time when he's losing. It comes as no surprise.
posted on 23/5/20
Welshpool, if you want the blunt truth, I think the evidence shows that your interpretation is absurd.
The fact that in the same post I actually make reference to you accepting SOME fault makes it clear.
If I wasn’t referring to ruining the thread, what on earth else did I mean?
I didn’t want to debate this. I wanted to call it a misunderstanding and move on because it’s petty and pointless.
But you insist on coming back again and again, delusional in the belief that your view is backed up with evidence when it really isn’t.
I clearly misjudged you, and not in a good way.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
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I’ve not been hypocritical at all and anyone reading this thread can see that yet again, you approach me, you attack me, you make things personal and you get upset because you are bizarrely obsessed by me.
I’m sorry you’re so affected by me but it’s your decision to come at me, not mine.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 28 seconds ago
Welshpool, if you want the blunt truth, I think the evidence shows that your interpretation is absurd.
The fact that in the same post I actually make reference to you accepting SOME fault makes it clear.
If I wasn’t referring to ruining the thread, what on earth else did I mean?
I didn’t want to debate this. I wanted to call it a misunderstanding and move on because it’s petty and pointless.
But you insist on coming back again and again, delusional in the belief that your view is backed up with evidence when it really isn’t.
I clearly misjudged you, and not in a good way.
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It is irrelevant if you meant me on my own or me in a group. They both include me so either way. I also never suggested that you were accusing me alone. I actually explicitly acknowledged that you weren't solely accusing me because I pointed out that you had already accused Robbing of the same thing.
So that fact that it was sole or group is irrelevant. The pertinent point is that you said I was ruining the thread, and then completely denied it in the very next comment to me. Whatever your meaning was with this denial, you didn't make that meaning clear (backed up by several other posters) and so the only meaning I decided to infer was the one that you actually wrote (I tend to read things literally where there is confusion to avoid such things - as you have noted) rather than assume a potential meaning that could be wrong.
Therefore we have two options. Either it was a genuine misunderstanding due to the word "only" or some variation being missing. If this were the case then a simple apology and acknowledgement would be acceptable.
Failing that, I will have to take your refusal to acknowledge it as a mistake as an admission that it wasn't a mistake and was actual a deliberate attempt to lie to backtrack on something.
Those are my civil options.
posted on 23/5/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 31 seconds ago
I’ve backed it all up and I haven’t lied once.
You disagree, good luck with that.
I hope our next conversation can be more civil and I think that largely depends on how you [inevitably] approach me.
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Show us all when I supposedly attacked you?
I know you’re lying about this
This is all very mature from the person that pompously espouses his own virtues and his value to this site. This is also the actions of an intellectual capable of having a mature debate. Making an allegation then running away like a coward. For shame.
If anything shows your blatant hypocrisy it’s this thread, so well done for that.
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I’ve not been hypocritical at all and anyone reading this thread can see that yet again, you approach me, you attack me, you make things personal and you get upset because you are bizarrely obsessed by me.
I’m sorry you’re so affected by me but it’s your decision to come at me, not mine.
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Right, now it becomes clear.
You think me disagreeing with your reply to Robbing’s comment was an attack. No it was an opinion I expressed and backed up. If you think that was an attack you must be very sensitive. That’s on you for perceiving that as an attack.
In fact calling someone’s intellect into question is actually an attack. A tactic you often employ when losing an argument. All very pathetic and immature. Yet for some reason I’m not as upset as you are.
You set yourself very high standards on this site by telling anyone who’ll listen that your contribution is of value. You also aren’t shy in telling everyone how much more mature, intelligent, right, etc you are. Yet your actions are the total opposite, and very rarely live up to your words. You then act affronted when someone pulls you up on it as if it’s a surprise, or an attack.
Don’t be surprised people disagree with you. You often express contentious and ridiculous opinions that attract disagreement and ridicule.
I’m sorry you feel like you were attacked. Luckily I can rest assured anyone reading this can see you lack both a spine and any sort of credibility in your opinion.
posted on 23/5/20
But Welshpool, I explained to you several times, my denial was in relation to the belief that you’d taken it to mean you alone.
It was absolutely clear what I meant, because I went onto outline that I meant you as part of a group of people.
Clearly I wouldn’t do that unless I thought you may believe I meant you alone.
So there’s no need for me to apologise. I was very clear and you made a mistake. I think that’s because you’ve been desperate to point score on this thread and so you jumped too quickly and then realised your error,
You won’t admit that of course.
Now, you may take exception to this. Therefore, I’ll remind you I tried to call it a misunderstanding and move on without mentioning it.
But you’re intent on arguing so here we are.
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