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Tiddles, yeah I’ve read Brewster’s doing well at Swansea. It’s a shame for him he’s had injury problems the last or so. There was a lot of hype and expectation after killing it for the u17’s. Still only 20 so could still have a good future.
Though Solanke was shiiiit hot at youth level, as was Nketiah, and we’ve seen how they’ve looked at prem level. Strangely all three came from Chelsea’s youth team.
The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Wales are England B. I was being dumb and thought he hadn’t played for them. But he could have played for England youth teams as he’s English, but obviously wasn’t good enough.
I think he’s looked shiiiit either side, but was supposedly better on the left for Swansea. Hopefully we can send him back if they get promoted.
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He’s decent for Wales off the left as well, but there’s plenty of average players that seem to do well at international level but not at PL level. He’s definitely better on the left though.
But yea, I don’t rate him at all.
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When we did sign him, he was playing on the left for Swansea.
If we do get Sancho in our forwards line and their back up could look like :
Rashford - - - Martial - - - Sancho
James Ighalo Greenwood
James could get games in his best position.
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
Sign Grealish and we wouldn’t even have to see James on the bench.
Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
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So what are you suggesting? We off him and hope for an insurance policy? I'm jesting of course, but there's no realistic solution there.
And no, at his worst, he wasn't worse than James. Though he was on a par. The difference is that Alexis has shown in the past, and is showing now, performance level that James hasn't shown he possesses
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
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Tiddles, yeah I’ve read Brewster’s doing well at Swansea. It’s a shame for him he’s had injury problems the last or so. There was a lot of hype and expectation after killing it for the u17’s. Still only 20 so could still have a good future.
Though Solanke was shiiiit hot at youth level, as was Nketiah, and we’ve seen how they’ve looked at prem level. Strangely all three came from Chelsea’s youth team.
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Solanke was largely due to him being physically so far ahead in development than his youth counterparts. Brewster doesn’t have that advantage.
I think he’ll make it somewhere, i don’t think it will be with us unfortunately. I think we’re in a more win now mode than bringing youth players through, a couple of exceptions to this obviously in TAA and Curtis Jones will replace Lallana in the squad.
He’s a great talent, i just hope he can get the minutes at the required level to make it somewhere
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
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I can sort of understand the Ibe one as he’d played a lot of minutes for us and in some games had looked good.
But Dom Solanke going for 20 mil when they could have had him for a tribunal fee 12 months earlier, and he’d only turned in shiiiiit performances for us is truly hilarious.
I don’t think Solanke was particularly domineering physically at youth level, to be honest. He just knew where the goal was at that level. Lots of players before have been the same and never made the step up.
Interestingly, Greenwood and Rashford have nowhere near the kind of strike rate for England youth sides that Solanke, Brewster or Nketiah have. But they took to premier league level like a duck to water. Football’s funny like that sometimes.
Never understood the Ibe transfer either. He looked shiiiiit for Liverpool and has carried that on at Bournemouth. They’ve made some bloody awful signings since they’ve been in the prem. They deserve their relegation for the £35m you conned them out of.
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He scored again tonight. He's on a very good run of form since lockdown tbf. Maybe an extended period of rest, finally, has helped him. Though it's in a dreadful league
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Ashley Young has quite a few goals and assists. It’s a poor league. Don’t think Sanchez would turn it around if he returned.
Glad he’s doing well though, never had anything against him and I don’t think his failure at United was due to lack of effort. Just feel he has too many miles on the clock.
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Yeah his effort was never in doubt. He was just a bit burned out and on a completely different wave length to his team mates. Even his 6 yard passes were 'percentage balls,' where it was always as likely to go out of play as find a team mate
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That could easily be about Fred too
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
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Teams will recover after a year or two. And we need to start doing what the Pool owners are doing.
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
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So what are you suggesting? We off him and hope for an insurance policy? I'm jesting of course, but there's no realistic solution there.
And no, at his worst, he wasn't worse than James. Though he was on a par. The difference is that Alexis has shown in the past, and is showing now, performance level that James hasn't shown he possesses
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He's shown it in the past. He's playing in a league that makes other players that have struggled in the PL or were average, look world class. If we can sell, get rid of Alexis. He's not going to be making those kind of performances for United as he is at Inter, let alone any that says he's deserving of his 400k wages. He's declined. Daniel James can is young. He can still improve or sold without being a drain on the club as Alexis is. And he's not even going to complain about being first choice.
Now, if we can't get rid of Alexis, we will have to try and integrate him into the side. The question is where and how? He's best position is the same one played by Rashford and James, while Martial can also play there. Do we not sign Sancho and see how well he can do on the right? A position he hasn't played in for years.
No, He needs to be sold this summer.
That’s easier said than done, Liverpool are brilliant at getting good money for their players. Their players aren’t nearly as overpaid as ours either, which makes things easier. Which brings us back to Sanchez.
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I don’t think Solanke was particularly domineering physically at youth level, to be honest. He just knew where the goal was at that level. Lots of players before have been the same and never made the step up.
Interestingly, Greenwood and Rashford have nowhere near the kind of strike rate for England youth sides that Solanke, Brewster or Nketiah have. But they took to premier league level like a duck to water. Football’s funny like that sometimes.
Never understood the Ibe transfer either. He looked shiiiiit for Liverpool and has carried that on at Bournemouth. They’ve made some bloody awful signings since they’ve been in the prem. They deserve their relegation for the £35m you conned them out of.
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He was a little further on physically than most his age, but yes he was still a very good goal scorer at youth level.
Part of the problem is he hasn’t had loads of first team minutes as well, even at Bournemouth. I think long term Solanke will make it in the premier league as a lower end teams striker. But he may have to drop into the championship for a couple seasons and build a proper CV.
His attitude seems to be a little off, he rejected a contract at Chelsea as they weren’t offering him as much as he wanted. We were dumb enough to offer him it, and then Bournemouth were dumb enough to offer him the same and give us 20 mil for our troubles
I said years ago that he reminded me of Benik Afobe. Nothing impressive about him but he could score goals at youth level. Like him I think he’ll end up in the championship as well, and stay there.
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That’s easier said than done, Liverpool are brilliant at getting good money for their players. Their players aren’t nearly as overpaid as ours either, which makes things easier. Which brings us back to Sanchez.
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True. We did make our money back on Lukaku, Depay and Schneiderlin. Only those are the examples I can use about that.
Di Maria wasn’t bad either. But like him, Lukaku and Depay still had good reputations. Everton are just mugs.
But selling shiiiiit players like James, Lingard, Andreas, Jones and Rojo for decent money will be a lot more difficult.
Lingard, Andreas, - From the youth so Amy free will be decent. If either move to Spain or Italy, they'll go and do well there.
Jones has become a joke and Rojo's wages is what is putting teams off.
Sadly we pay such players too much.
I disagree with James. His reputation hasn't taken a battering like the others, is still young and if it weren't for Swansea's previous Chairman, he'd be at Leeds. And Championship clubs as well as Clubs coming into the PL have spend such fees on worse players.
The impact of Covid will be felt by smaller clubs more and those lower down the leagues. Bigger clubs will be able to take the hit and recover in time. By this time next year, fees will return to "normal". And we're still going to see big fees spent. Sancho and Kai Havertz are being quoted at 80m to 120m in the press.
I think you underestimate the financial impact on clubs in the football league. No fans in the stadium will fack a lot of them. It’s going to take a lot longer for things to go back to normal. Even Real Madrid aren’t going to spend big because of the impact covid has had on their finances. There will still be some big money transfers. But I think they’ll be in isolation.
When the transfer window closes there will be loads of comparisons to previous transfer windows on total money spent.
I suspect in England it’ll be down hundreds of millions and across all of Europe in the billions.
God no , let him stay for a long time
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I think you underestimate the financial impact on clubs in the football league. No fans in the stadium will fack a lot of them. It’s going to take a lot longer for things to go back to normal. Even Real Madrid aren’t going to spend big because of the impact covid has had on their finances. There will still be some big money transfers. But I think they’ll be in isolation.
When the transfer window closes there will be loads of comparisons to previous transfer windows on total money spent.
I suspect in England it’ll be down hundreds of millions and across all of Europe in the billions.
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Real had issues before Covid and have two players on big contracts who they've been trying to get rid off for years.
You're also assuming that this transfer window will continue in the future. Fans will be back in the stadiums before the end of the year (unless there is another spike or a second wave). This time next year, teams will start to spend again. It won't be the same for all clubs but we will see teams spending as they have done within a year or two. The biggest impact would probably be that large 70-100m deals will be less often than they have been.
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posted on 26/7/20
BK
Tiddles, yeah I’ve read Brewster’s doing well at Swansea. It’s a shame for him he’s had injury problems the last or so. There was a lot of hype and expectation after killing it for the u17’s. Still only 20 so could still have a good future.
Though Solanke was shiiiit hot at youth level, as was Nketiah, and we’ve seen how they’ve looked at prem level. Strangely all three came from Chelsea’s youth team.
posted on 26/7/20
The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
posted on 26/7/20
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
posted on 26/7/20
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Wales are England B. I was being dumb and thought he hadn’t played for them. But he could have played for England youth teams as he’s English, but obviously wasn’t good enough.
I think he’s looked shiiiit either side, but was supposedly better on the left for Swansea. Hopefully we can send him back if they get promoted.
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He’s decent for Wales off the left as well, but there’s plenty of average players that seem to do well at international level but not at PL level. He’s definitely better on the left though.
But yea, I don’t rate him at all.
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When we did sign him, he was playing on the left for Swansea.
If we do get Sancho in our forwards line and their back up could look like :
Rashford - - - Martial - - - Sancho
James Ighalo Greenwood
James could get games in his best position.
posted on 26/7/20
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
posted on 26/7/20
Sign Grealish and we wouldn’t even have to see James on the bench.
posted on 26/7/20
Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
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So what are you suggesting? We off him and hope for an insurance policy? I'm jesting of course, but there's no realistic solution there.
And no, at his worst, he wasn't worse than James. Though he was on a par. The difference is that Alexis has shown in the past, and is showing now, performance level that James hasn't shown he possesses
posted on 26/7/20
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
posted on 26/7/20
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BK
Tiddles, yeah I’ve read Brewster’s doing well at Swansea. It’s a shame for him he’s had injury problems the last or so. There was a lot of hype and expectation after killing it for the u17’s. Still only 20 so could still have a good future.
Though Solanke was shiiiit hot at youth level, as was Nketiah, and we’ve seen how they’ve looked at prem level. Strangely all three came from Chelsea’s youth team.
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Solanke was largely due to him being physically so far ahead in development than his youth counterparts. Brewster doesn’t have that advantage.
I think he’ll make it somewhere, i don’t think it will be with us unfortunately. I think we’re in a more win now mode than bringing youth players through, a couple of exceptions to this obviously in TAA and Curtis Jones will replace Lallana in the squad.
He’s a great talent, i just hope he can get the minutes at the required level to make it somewhere
posted on 26/7/20
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
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I can sort of understand the Ibe one as he’d played a lot of minutes for us and in some games had looked good.
But Dom Solanke going for 20 mil when they could have had him for a tribunal fee 12 months earlier, and he’d only turned in shiiiiit performances for us is truly hilarious.
posted on 26/7/20
I don’t think Solanke was particularly domineering physically at youth level, to be honest. He just knew where the goal was at that level. Lots of players before have been the same and never made the step up.
Interestingly, Greenwood and Rashford have nowhere near the kind of strike rate for England youth sides that Solanke, Brewster or Nketiah have. But they took to premier league level like a duck to water. Football’s funny like that sometimes.
Never understood the Ibe transfer either. He looked shiiiiit for Liverpool and has carried that on at Bournemouth. They’ve made some bloody awful signings since they’ve been in the prem. They deserve their relegation for the £35m you conned them out of.
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He scored again tonight. He's on a very good run of form since lockdown tbf. Maybe an extended period of rest, finally, has helped him. Though it's in a dreadful league
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Ashley Young has quite a few goals and assists. It’s a poor league. Don’t think Sanchez would turn it around if he returned.
Glad he’s doing well though, never had anything against him and I don’t think his failure at United was due to lack of effort. Just feel he has too many miles on the clock.
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Yeah his effort was never in doubt. He was just a bit burned out and on a completely different wave length to his team mates. Even his 6 yard passes were 'percentage balls,' where it was always as likely to go out of play as find a team mate
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That could easily be about Fred too
posted on 26/7/20
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Also, Solanke went for 20m, Jordan Ibe for 15, Ross McCormack went for 11m and then 12m not too long ago. James was wanted by Leeds last year in January (10m). So we could probably get back 15m for James.
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Covid wasn’t a thing and Liverpool have obviously been blackmailing Bournemouth’s owners.
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Teams will recover after a year or two. And we need to start doing what the Pool owners are doing.
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comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
The Italian league isn't where it used to be. Inter have signed Moses and Young in addition to the well known names of Lukaku, Sanchez and Eriksen. And other than Eriksen, the others have looked class in the league there. Let's not forget that Mkhitaryan and Smalling have looked much better than they have ever done in the PL and Gervinho had been doing well there even at the age of 33. If we could sell Jones, Lingard, Mata and Pereira to an Italian side, I'm sure even they would look good in that league.
So I don't want Sanchez back as he's finished at PL level. At least with James, he can still improve and if that doesn't work out, sold for at least the amount we got him for.
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I don't know what James has done to suggest we'd get the 15 million we paid for him back. What I would say is that Alexis is playing much better than James is, even allowing for league differentials, and if we are lumbered with him next season (not entirely unlikely), he'd be a better option. No contest imo.
But in an ideal world, Inter will bow to the incredibly demanding Conte and actually sign Alexis permanently, and finally rid us of his wages
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Or we could end up having the Sanchez that we had for 18 months, who, on the whole had been worse than James has been. That's the risk of keeping him off we can't get rid of him. He was not happy here. The only one he got on with was Lukaku. I think some have forgotten how truly bad he was playing for us.
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So what are you suggesting? We off him and hope for an insurance policy? I'm jesting of course, but there's no realistic solution there.
And no, at his worst, he wasn't worse than James. Though he was on a par. The difference is that Alexis has shown in the past, and is showing now, performance level that James hasn't shown he possesses
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He's shown it in the past. He's playing in a league that makes other players that have struggled in the PL or were average, look world class. If we can sell, get rid of Alexis. He's not going to be making those kind of performances for United as he is at Inter, let alone any that says he's deserving of his 400k wages. He's declined. Daniel James can is young. He can still improve or sold without being a drain on the club as Alexis is. And he's not even going to complain about being first choice.
Now, if we can't get rid of Alexis, we will have to try and integrate him into the side. The question is where and how? He's best position is the same one played by Rashford and James, while Martial can also play there. Do we not sign Sancho and see how well he can do on the right? A position he hasn't played in for years.
posted on 26/7/20
No, He needs to be sold this summer.
posted on 26/7/20
That’s easier said than done, Liverpool are brilliant at getting good money for their players. Their players aren’t nearly as overpaid as ours either, which makes things easier. Which brings us back to Sanchez.
posted on 26/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 30 minutes ago
I don’t think Solanke was particularly domineering physically at youth level, to be honest. He just knew where the goal was at that level. Lots of players before have been the same and never made the step up.
Interestingly, Greenwood and Rashford have nowhere near the kind of strike rate for England youth sides that Solanke, Brewster or Nketiah have. But they took to premier league level like a duck to water. Football’s funny like that sometimes.
Never understood the Ibe transfer either. He looked shiiiiit for Liverpool and has carried that on at Bournemouth. They’ve made some bloody awful signings since they’ve been in the prem. They deserve their relegation for the £35m you conned them out of.
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He was a little further on physically than most his age, but yes he was still a very good goal scorer at youth level.
Part of the problem is he hasn’t had loads of first team minutes as well, even at Bournemouth. I think long term Solanke will make it in the premier league as a lower end teams striker. But he may have to drop into the championship for a couple seasons and build a proper CV.
His attitude seems to be a little off, he rejected a contract at Chelsea as they weren’t offering him as much as he wanted. We were dumb enough to offer him it, and then Bournemouth were dumb enough to offer him the same and give us 20 mil for our troubles
posted on 26/7/20
I said years ago that he reminded me of Benik Afobe. Nothing impressive about him but he could score goals at youth level. Like him I think he’ll end up in the championship as well, and stay there.
posted on 26/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 21 minutes ago
That’s easier said than done, Liverpool are brilliant at getting good money for their players. Their players aren’t nearly as overpaid as ours either, which makes things easier. Which brings us back to Sanchez.
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True. We did make our money back on Lukaku, Depay and Schneiderlin. Only those are the examples I can use about that.
posted on 26/7/20
Di Maria wasn’t bad either. But like him, Lukaku and Depay still had good reputations. Everton are just mugs.
But selling shiiiiit players like James, Lingard, Andreas, Jones and Rojo for decent money will be a lot more difficult.
posted on 26/7/20
Lingard, Andreas, - From the youth so Amy free will be decent. If either move to Spain or Italy, they'll go and do well there.
Jones has become a joke and Rojo's wages is what is putting teams off.
Sadly we pay such players too much.
I disagree with James. His reputation hasn't taken a battering like the others, is still young and if it weren't for Swansea's previous Chairman, he'd be at Leeds. And Championship clubs as well as Clubs coming into the PL have spend such fees on worse players.
The impact of Covid will be felt by smaller clubs more and those lower down the leagues. Bigger clubs will be able to take the hit and recover in time. By this time next year, fees will return to "normal". And we're still going to see big fees spent. Sancho and Kai Havertz are being quoted at 80m to 120m in the press.
posted on 26/7/20
I think you underestimate the financial impact on clubs in the football league. No fans in the stadium will fack a lot of them. It’s going to take a lot longer for things to go back to normal. Even Real Madrid aren’t going to spend big because of the impact covid has had on their finances. There will still be some big money transfers. But I think they’ll be in isolation.
When the transfer window closes there will be loads of comparisons to previous transfer windows on total money spent.
I suspect in England it’ll be down hundreds of millions and across all of Europe in the billions.
posted on 26/7/20
God no , let him stay for a long time
posted on 26/7/20
comment by Imran The King Khan (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
I think you underestimate the financial impact on clubs in the football league. No fans in the stadium will fack a lot of them. It’s going to take a lot longer for things to go back to normal. Even Real Madrid aren’t going to spend big because of the impact covid has had on their finances. There will still be some big money transfers. But I think they’ll be in isolation.
When the transfer window closes there will be loads of comparisons to previous transfer windows on total money spent.
I suspect in England it’ll be down hundreds of millions and across all of Europe in the billions.
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Real had issues before Covid and have two players on big contracts who they've been trying to get rid off for years.
You're also assuming that this transfer window will continue in the future. Fans will be back in the stadiums before the end of the year (unless there is another spike or a second wave). This time next year, teams will start to spend again. It won't be the same for all clubs but we will see teams spending as they have done within a year or two. The biggest impact would probably be that large 70-100m deals will be less often than they have been.
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