That's yer fans bombed out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54104001
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Indeed.
I actually don’t see a viable alternative. We can’t do another 7 months like the last 7.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
Does anyone fancy taking the Covid Vaccine when it's rushed out? Talk of them making it mandatory.
ruined by the nutters and jakeballs
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Sorry
comment by Zico - IX (U21900)
posted 44 seconds ago
Does anyone fancy taking the Covid Vaccine when it's rushed out? Talk of them making it mandatory.
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Interesting point. We’ve talked about it and we’re not sure in all honesty. My gut reaction will be no.
It’s impossible to make it mandatory. Against every civil liberty and law on the planet.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
Drastic diseases require drastic remedies.
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
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Go on - dyor and let us know.
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
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Yes it was per capita but now is in a far better position and improving all the time. Interestingly one of their advisors estimated 180,000 deaths with their policy iirc.
Some experts eh?
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 29 seconds ago
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
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Surely the end game is important?
How long do you think we carry on like this?
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
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Which demonstrates my point. We are being treated like lab rats.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
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Which demonstrates my point. We are being treated like lab rats.
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That’s quite a twist you’ve put on it.
It’s nothing like being treated like lab rats, when it’s a sensible request and easily followed guidance.
It absolutely proves the point that unless people in this country are monitored then they won’t follow guidance.
You don’t believe in a lot of the restrictions, and that’s your prerogative. You’ve been very vocal about many parts of that, but let’s not kid on that we have the same mindset as many of the Swedish and could have behaved in the same manner. You’re neither that naive nor that stupid.
I think.
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
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So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
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Well actually we dont know any of that. 'Experts' are telling us and, in many cases, we choose to listen to the experts who support our own views.
I see no issue at all with stopping people having parties in their houses.
I see no issue with bar staff wearing face masks as well as customers.
Many of the current measures are aimed at keeping the economy, schools and the health service open.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 29 seconds ago
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
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Surely the end game is important?
How long do you think we carry on like this?
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Can see sporadic and localised lockdowns continuing for some time mate.
Relative of mine started a course of medication the other week, which side effects were akin to cv19 symptoms.
As such they had to get a cv19 test, and while they waited to get test, and subsequent results the whole family, and everyone in related bubble had to self isolate.
Thankfully test came back negative.
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
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Well actually we dont know any of that. 'Experts' are telling us and, in many cases, we choose to listen to the experts who support our own views.
I see no issue at all with stopping people having parties in their houses.
I see no issue with bar staff wearing face masks as well as customers.
Many of the current measures are aimed at keeping the economy, schools and the health service open.
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These will be the same experts who told us to manage the NHS to be able to cope and to expect rates to rise as we eased out?
What has happened that wasn’t predicted 3-4 months ago?
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posted on 10/9/20
Smokin! Ginger Lol 😂
posted on 10/9/20
That's yer fans bombed out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54104001
posted on 10/9/20
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Indeed.
I actually don’t see a viable alternative. We can’t do another 7 months like the last 7.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
posted on 10/9/20
Does anyone fancy taking the Covid Vaccine when it's rushed out? Talk of them making it mandatory.
posted on 10/9/20
ruined by the nutters and jakeballs
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Sorry
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Zico - IX (U21900)
posted 44 seconds ago
Does anyone fancy taking the Covid Vaccine when it's rushed out? Talk of them making it mandatory.
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Interesting point. We’ve talked about it and we’re not sure in all honesty. My gut reaction will be no.
It’s impossible to make it mandatory. Against every civil liberty and law on the planet.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
posted on 10/9/20
Drastic diseases require drastic remedies.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
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Go on - dyor and let us know.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Tully1 (U20686)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 20 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Did I not read that Sweden's death rate from Covid is three times that of it's nearest neighbours?
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Yes it was per capita but now is in a far better position and improving all the time. Interestingly one of their advisors estimated 180,000 deaths with their policy iirc.
Some experts eh?
posted on 10/9/20
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 29 seconds ago
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely the end game is important?
How long do you think we carry on like this?
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
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Which demonstrates my point. We are being treated like lab rats.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
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Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
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Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
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Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by My POV (U10636)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s estimated 1 in 4 people aren’t self quarantining when they should be.
Responsible.
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Which demonstrates my point. We are being treated like lab rats.
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That’s quite a twist you’ve put on it.
It’s nothing like being treated like lab rats, when it’s a sensible request and easily followed guidance.
It absolutely proves the point that unless people in this country are monitored then they won’t follow guidance.
You don’t believe in a lot of the restrictions, and that’s your prerogative. You’ve been very vocal about many parts of that, but let’s not kid on that we have the same mindset as many of the Swedish and could have behaved in the same manner. You’re neither that naive nor that stupid.
I think.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
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So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
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So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
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Well actually we dont know any of that. 'Experts' are telling us and, in many cases, we choose to listen to the experts who support our own views.
I see no issue at all with stopping people having parties in their houses.
I see no issue with bar staff wearing face masks as well as customers.
Many of the current measures are aimed at keeping the economy, schools and the health service open.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Ireland-Kenya Re... (U3126)
posted 29 seconds ago
Swedish Cv19 deaths per capita isn't exactly something to rave about:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
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Surely the end game is important?
How long do you think we carry on like this?
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Can see sporadic and localised lockdowns continuing for some time mate.
Relative of mine started a course of medication the other week, which side effects were akin to cv19 symptoms.
As such they had to get a cv19 test, and while they waited to get test, and subsequent results the whole family, and everyone in related bubble had to self isolate.
Thankfully test came back negative.
posted on 10/9/20
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum. (U22391)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 12 minutes ago
Sweden - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12631416/swedens-coronavirus-herd-immunity-plan-vindicated/
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Agreed. Wouldn't have worked here due to the higher proportion of nutters and jakeballs.
I've spent a fair amount of time in Sweden. A different culture.
The outbreak at Tesco in Wishaw is a case in point. I don't believe that would happen to any great extent there. Happening every day here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So the measure being put in place will be still ruined by the nutters and jakeballs we already have and then what next?
Maybe if we’d treated people responsibly at an earlier stage we’d react more responsibly.
Treating us like lab rats to be locked up or kicked out at the whim of governments and scientists who have no answer can’t be the right thing surely?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Treating people responsibly isnt really an option for a large part of the population.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it is. We treat people responsibly not to break the law in serious crime. It happens but it’s not like the population ignores it. It’s a very tiny percentage.
Our “cure” is killing people. It’s also killing the entire economy as a side effect.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed. We need laws in society in general.
We need them in relation to covid too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So now we are putting in place laws that we know will have far more devastating and far reaching consequences in deaths, health, community, care and social interaction, lack of scientific and medicinal progress, depression, family breakdowns as a deliberate action when we are still refusing to accept the fact that we know of no tangible end to this and the fact we cannot afford to keep on this path.
Wonderful.
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Well actually we dont know any of that. 'Experts' are telling us and, in many cases, we choose to listen to the experts who support our own views.
I see no issue at all with stopping people having parties in their houses.
I see no issue with bar staff wearing face masks as well as customers.
Many of the current measures are aimed at keeping the economy, schools and the health service open.
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These will be the same experts who told us to manage the NHS to be able to cope and to expect rates to rise as we eased out?
What has happened that wasn’t predicted 3-4 months ago?
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