Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
The old 4-4-2 nonsense always comes out. So does the plan B BS. As though it’s simple to have two successful ways of playing that you just flit between when necessary. The ideas that the manager has never contemplated being behind in a game or if changing tactics.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted 5 minutes ago
The old 4-4-2 nonsense always comes out. So does the plan B BS. As though it’s simple to have two successful ways of playing that you just flit between when necessary. The ideas that the manager has never contemplated being behind in a game or if changing tactics.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
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Is that you Sabri..🤔
It's not really just about this game though is it?
It's about using the wrong tactics last season after the restart, when we needed to attack and play possession football at least at home.
I agree that Sabri unfortunately is looking like a one trick pony who has been found out.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
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Perfectly summed up, unfortunately every performance post Derby, last season have been almost identical, enough said imo.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just on
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My assessment is on the last 15 games or so
If you can show where you think we’ve improved or learned over those games, please point it out
I’ve heard him talk about wanting to be stronger, show more creativity and intent and learning from mistakes - but the performances do not show any of that
Trust that helps
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted about an hour ago
Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
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Yep, I agree dave
Some of his decisions on and off the field are baffling
It just seems we take on anyone and everyone who’s looking for their next easy move
Welcome to the Hotel City Ground
"In the first game of the season you need to be patient and clever. But we were not clever and not good enough to make the difference and score."
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Same boring old tripe
Just a few responses from other supporters...looks like we’re not the only ones that are somewhat disappointed:
NFFCSabri123: “Nothing’s changed.”
Chombo25: “Grabban should’ve had a hat trick, his job to put the ball in the net and he’s let us down today.”
Alex: “Conceding in injury time? That’s it for me.”
Jack: “Still waiting for a shot on target. Team has been playing dreadful football since Feb.”
Mattyboy24: “We should be getting at least a draw. When was the last time we controlled a game, Anyone?? Too defensive, rather us batter a side and lose 1-0 than this set up. Open it up a bit!”
Tom Walters: “This isn’t reactive, it’s been I like this months. It’s embarrassing football. It shouldn’t be associated with this football club.”
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comment by caniggiaforforest (U6917)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Get this useless French tw@t out
Fckin gimp
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This sounds a bit like you want him sacked Rev
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I was talking about getting him ‘out’ of his blinkered box of useless tactics where he rhingsbonky his way is the right way
I’d like him ro realise that there can be a plan B or C if the situation requires
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I read it like you wanted him sacked.
It’s like saying “kill them all”, but then saying I meant “kill them with kindness”.
It really doesn’t matter what think, the man who’s in charge will be making those kind of decisions
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted about an hour ago
Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
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Yep, I agree dave
Some of his decisions on and off the field are baffling
It just seems we take on anyone and everyone who’s looking for their next easy move
Welcome to the Hotel City Ground
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We signed Bong as cover, for a promotion push. No doubt he was in the last year of his contract and demanded a two year deal. Turned out he was wink, so we don’t play him and are looking for a new LB (Operi).
Have I missed something with Ribs not playing?
Jenkinson 🤣 I thought I was drunk last night! He’s 2nd choice at best! Again, brought in as cover for a player who was converted into a RB, who we sold for 14m!
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Figs? He’s been responsible for many of our goals conceded. He didn’t even seem bothered about the penalty. At one point arguing with Worrall ffs?! If he wants to go back to Portugal, please let him go!
We had effectively a new LB, RB and AM playing today. All of those did ok, Oh...and Colback! Who hasn’t played for a year!
Gabriel is surely not first choice? But, he was one of our most promising academy players before horrific injuries, plus, he is 21!
QPR had a few very good players. London Dykes looked very good.
It’s game one of a loooong season.
Yes, results speak for themselves, I’m not that optimistic. However, I do feel I see a broader view than some....Rev...I’m looking at you here mate!!! 🤣 I think we’re both glass half full people, but yours is now full of sand! Just enjoy the ride.
I’ll start judging us in 5 games and yes, I do feel Sabri has a short time to get this right. I’d say 3 more games until the International break. Harsh, but that’s football.
Does he need a plan B? Yes. Could we have won it today? Definitely. He got us to 7th in his first season. He then changes his whole back room staff and up until the final minutes we were well in it. Yates, hit the post!
I loss $270 on the horses yesterday, but then put $1k on Arsenal to win at 1.62! Even with my drinks I think I’m $300 up! Maybe that’s why I’m happy?
Anyway, see you next week. I need to go back to bed!
Cheers all 👍
Yes, results speak for themselves, I’m not that optimistic. However, I do feel I see a broader view than some....Rev...I’m looking at you here mate!!! 🤣 I think we’re both glass half full people, but yours is now full of sand! Just enjoy the ride.
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I just say it as I see it mate - you don’t have to agree with me, that’s the whole point of opinions
Yes it’s early days, but going by last week and today’s performance, it doesn’t look good - the manager has a very short time to start getting the team playing, and more importantly, getting results, and the more we get of what we had today, the tighter the noose around his neck will get
Morninchile, you can’t afford to take back up players in on good wages with a two and half year deal, we did the same with Benny the Loon and Pants, it’s financial suicide in this division. I am not sure how much SL has input on some of these signings, but some really are poor. Because of the ineptitude of the last 10 or so performances and SL’s inability to change I personally don’t think he will last more than half a dozen games, unless things change dramatically.
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Morninchile, you can’t afford to take back up players in on good wages with a two and half year deal, we did the same with Benny the Loon and Pants, it’s financial suicide in this division. I am not sure how much SL has input on some of these signings, but some really are poor. Because of the ineptitude of the last 10 or so performances and SL’s inability to change I personally don’t think he will last more than half a dozen games, unless things change dramatically.
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It's an 18-month deal for Bong Dave.
That reads hilariously...Bong Dave!
Benny the loon should be out of contract according to Transfermarkt? His only goal was against Derby County. He was also signed by MON. Not a great signing...but pretty sure SL had nothing to do with it!!
Didn't Pantilimon have the most clean sheets in his first full season here? Just checked and it was 15 in 44 games. He was susceptible to a mistake and never came off his line. He was signed by AK, not SL.
I get your point on signing poor players, but which club doesn't? I'd say SL has a 33-50% hit rate of good players. Samba and Ribieiro have been superb. Sow has been great (when fit), Silva did well in his first full season and Ameobi great business on a free.
I agree that I don't think he'll last the next few games, if we carry on like we are. However, the players the next manager will have at his disposal are night and day above what he has shipped out.
Very appy wiv three points and newcomers Dickie and Dyke look like money well spent. But as many on ear ave said you let us play and opposition strikers won't be as wasteful. I'm now not arf as worried as I was about dis season. Onwards to Coventry or I should say Birmingham.
Calm down lads. It's still nailed on certs for a Derby, Forest 1,2.
Just means Derby are going to be crowned champions on alphabetical difference, but 2nd is still automatics, not to be sniffed at.
EIEIEIEI O
Your definitely right wiv the song E.I.E.I.E.I-Oh. Lookin at the table the only way for you is UP.
I think he has six games to secure his future (not 5 Morningchile). Six games takes us to El Cloughico the traditional time for sacking managers.
That's enough for him to turn it round. Samba, Figs, Worrall, Ribs, Lolley, Ameobi, Lolley , and Grabban were all first choice in the team that got us to seventh in the league. Add to that Darikwa, Sow, and Freeman and we have a good starting eleven. On the bench we have Smith, Blackett, Bachirou, Silva, Mighten, Taylor, Guerrero. Then there is Soh, Colback Johnson,Carvalho, Jenks, da Costa.
We have the players. It is down to the coach to select a team of eleven fully fit players who know and can execute their roles.
Sabri's team selections and substitutions are starting to remind me of Montannier.
We need to get back to basics. Decide on the best formation for the players we have, and get them organised, disciplined, and motivated.
We need to get back to basics. Decide on the best formation for the players we have, and get them organised, disciplined, and motivated.
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That’s the worrying thing, we certainly have the players....but the organisation, the tactics, the approach and mentality all seem way off
Why he has us playing defensively is crazy, we showed against Leeds last season, if we attack and have the right mentality, we can destroy any team in this league
The manager has instilled a mentality of fear into the players, to defend, defend and defend - that only gives the opposition more confidence to attack
And once they’ve made the breakthrough, then the pressure just multiplies on us to respond - it crazy tactics, and totally unnecessary - such a waste of the talent we have at our disposal
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posted on 12/9/20
he believes his way...*
posted on 12/9/20
Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
posted on 12/9/20
The old 4-4-2 nonsense always comes out. So does the plan B BS. As though it’s simple to have two successful ways of playing that you just flit between when necessary. The ideas that the manager has never contemplated being behind in a game or if changing tactics.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
posted on 12/9/20
comment by reds_are_everywhere (U9547)
posted 5 minutes ago
The old 4-4-2 nonsense always comes out. So does the plan B BS. As though it’s simple to have two successful ways of playing that you just flit between when necessary. The ideas that the manager has never contemplated being behind in a game or if changing tactics.
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
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Is that you Sabri..🤔
posted on 12/9/20
It's not really just about this game though is it?
It's about using the wrong tactics last season after the restart, when we needed to attack and play possession football at least at home.
I agree that Sabri unfortunately is looking like a one trick pony who has been found out.
posted on 12/9/20
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just one.
———-
Perfectly summed up, unfortunately every performance post Derby, last season have been almost identical, enough said imo.
posted on 12/9/20
Teams lose, especially in this league. You have to look at a teams performance over a run of games not just on
==================
My assessment is on the last 15 games or so
If you can show where you think we’ve improved or learned over those games, please point it out
I’ve heard him talk about wanting to be stronger, show more creativity and intent and learning from mistakes - but the performances do not show any of that
Trust that helps
posted on 12/9/20
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted about an hour ago
Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
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Yep, I agree dave
Some of his decisions on and off the field are baffling
It just seems we take on anyone and everyone who’s looking for their next easy move
Welcome to the Hotel City Ground
posted on 12/9/20
"In the first game of the season you need to be patient and clever. But we were not clever and not good enough to make the difference and score."
=================
Same boring old tripe
posted on 12/9/20
Just a few responses from other supporters...looks like we’re not the only ones that are somewhat disappointed:
NFFCSabri123: “Nothing’s changed.”
Chombo25: “Grabban should’ve had a hat trick, his job to put the ball in the net and he’s let us down today.”
Alex: “Conceding in injury time? That’s it for me.”
Jack: “Still waiting for a shot on target. Team has been playing dreadful football since Feb.”
Mattyboy24: “We should be getting at least a draw. When was the last time we controlled a game, Anyone?? Too defensive, rather us batter a side and lose 1-0 than this set up. Open it up a bit!”
Tom Walters: “This isn’t reactive, it’s been I like this months. It’s embarrassing football. It shouldn’t be associated with this football club.”
posted on 12/9/20
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by caniggiaforforest (U6917)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
Get this useless French tw@t out
Fckin gimp
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This sounds a bit like you want him sacked Rev
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I was talking about getting him ‘out’ of his blinkered box of useless tactics where he rhingsbonky his way is the right way
I’d like him ro realise that there can be a plan B or C if the situation requires
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I read it like you wanted him sacked.
It’s like saying “kill them all”, but then saying I meant “kill them with kindness”.
posted on 12/9/20
It really doesn’t matter what think, the man who’s in charge will be making those kind of decisions
posted on 12/9/20
comment by 🇬🇧 ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe 🇬🇧 (U22182)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted about an hour ago
Rev, I ain’t sitting on the fence on this one, I predict he will be gone by the end of October and he will have no one to blame but himself. Apparently we are linked with yet another defender, why did we sign Bong on a 2 year deal if we ain’t going to use him, what is wrong with Jenkinson ??
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Yep, I agree dave
Some of his decisions on and off the field are baffling
It just seems we take on anyone and everyone who’s looking for their next easy move
Welcome to the Hotel City Ground
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We signed Bong as cover, for a promotion push. No doubt he was in the last year of his contract and demanded a two year deal. Turned out he was wink, so we don’t play him and are looking for a new LB (Operi).
Have I missed something with Ribs not playing?
Jenkinson 🤣 I thought I was drunk last night! He’s 2nd choice at best! Again, brought in as cover for a player who was converted into a RB, who we sold for 14m!
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Figs? He’s been responsible for many of our goals conceded. He didn’t even seem bothered about the penalty. At one point arguing with Worrall ffs?! If he wants to go back to Portugal, please let him go!
We had effectively a new LB, RB and AM playing today. All of those did ok, Oh...and Colback! Who hasn’t played for a year!
Gabriel is surely not first choice? But, he was one of our most promising academy players before horrific injuries, plus, he is 21!
QPR had a few very good players. London Dykes looked very good.
It’s game one of a loooong season.
Yes, results speak for themselves, I’m not that optimistic. However, I do feel I see a broader view than some....Rev...I’m looking at you here mate!!! 🤣 I think we’re both glass half full people, but yours is now full of sand! Just enjoy the ride.
I’ll start judging us in 5 games and yes, I do feel Sabri has a short time to get this right. I’d say 3 more games until the International break. Harsh, but that’s football.
Does he need a plan B? Yes. Could we have won it today? Definitely. He got us to 7th in his first season. He then changes his whole back room staff and up until the final minutes we were well in it. Yates, hit the post!
I loss $270 on the horses yesterday, but then put $1k on Arsenal to win at 1.62! Even with my drinks I think I’m $300 up! Maybe that’s why I’m happy?
Anyway, see you next week. I need to go back to bed!
Cheers all 👍
posted on 12/9/20
Yes, results speak for themselves, I’m not that optimistic. However, I do feel I see a broader view than some....Rev...I’m looking at you here mate!!! 🤣 I think we’re both glass half full people, but yours is now full of sand! Just enjoy the ride.
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I just say it as I see it mate - you don’t have to agree with me, that’s the whole point of opinions
Yes it’s early days, but going by last week and today’s performance, it doesn’t look good - the manager has a very short time to start getting the team playing, and more importantly, getting results, and the more we get of what we had today, the tighter the noose around his neck will get
posted on 12/9/20
Morninchile, you can’t afford to take back up players in on good wages with a two and half year deal, we did the same with Benny the Loon and Pants, it’s financial suicide in this division. I am not sure how much SL has input on some of these signings, but some really are poor. Because of the ineptitude of the last 10 or so performances and SL’s inability to change I personally don’t think he will last more than half a dozen games, unless things change dramatically.
posted on 12/9/20
I’m with you dave
posted on 13/9/20
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
Morninchile, you can’t afford to take back up players in on good wages with a two and half year deal, we did the same with Benny the Loon and Pants, it’s financial suicide in this division. I am not sure how much SL has input on some of these signings, but some really are poor. Because of the ineptitude of the last 10 or so performances and SL’s inability to change I personally don’t think he will last more than half a dozen games, unless things change dramatically.
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It's an 18-month deal for Bong Dave.
That reads hilariously...Bong Dave!
Benny the loon should be out of contract according to Transfermarkt? His only goal was against Derby County. He was also signed by MON. Not a great signing...but pretty sure SL had nothing to do with it!!
Didn't Pantilimon have the most clean sheets in his first full season here? Just checked and it was 15 in 44 games. He was susceptible to a mistake and never came off his line. He was signed by AK, not SL.
I get your point on signing poor players, but which club doesn't? I'd say SL has a 33-50% hit rate of good players. Samba and Ribieiro have been superb. Sow has been great (when fit), Silva did well in his first full season and Ameobi great business on a free.
I agree that I don't think he'll last the next few games, if we carry on like we are. However, the players the next manager will have at his disposal are night and day above what he has shipped out.
posted on 13/9/20
Very appy wiv three points and newcomers Dickie and Dyke look like money well spent. But as many on ear ave said you let us play and opposition strikers won't be as wasteful. I'm now not arf as worried as I was about dis season. Onwards to Coventry or I should say Birmingham.
posted on 13/9/20
Calm down lads. It's still nailed on certs for a Derby, Forest 1,2.
Just means Derby are going to be crowned champions on alphabetical difference, but 2nd is still automatics, not to be sniffed at.
EIEIEIEI O
posted on 13/9/20
Your definitely right wiv the song E.I.E.I.E.I-Oh. Lookin at the table the only way for you is UP.
posted on 13/9/20
I think he has six games to secure his future (not 5 Morningchile). Six games takes us to El Cloughico the traditional time for sacking managers.
That's enough for him to turn it round. Samba, Figs, Worrall, Ribs, Lolley, Ameobi, Lolley , and Grabban were all first choice in the team that got us to seventh in the league. Add to that Darikwa, Sow, and Freeman and we have a good starting eleven. On the bench we have Smith, Blackett, Bachirou, Silva, Mighten, Taylor, Guerrero. Then there is Soh, Colback Johnson,Carvalho, Jenks, da Costa.
We have the players. It is down to the coach to select a team of eleven fully fit players who know and can execute their roles.
Sabri's team selections and substitutions are starting to remind me of Montannier.
We need to get back to basics. Decide on the best formation for the players we have, and get them organised, disciplined, and motivated.
posted on 13/9/20
We need to get back to basics. Decide on the best formation for the players we have, and get them organised, disciplined, and motivated.
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That’s the worrying thing, we certainly have the players....but the organisation, the tactics, the approach and mentality all seem way off
Why he has us playing defensively is crazy, we showed against Leeds last season, if we attack and have the right mentality, we can destroy any team in this league
The manager has instilled a mentality of fear into the players, to defend, defend and defend - that only gives the opposition more confidence to attack
And once they’ve made the breakthrough, then the pressure just multiplies on us to respond - it crazy tactics, and totally unnecessary - such a waste of the talent we have at our disposal
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