That is a fair interpretation welsh but I’m not sure how that would apply to a goalkeeper who might make a save.
I think the rule's okay as it is and there was nothing wrong with the goal today. In fact, they got all the big calls right. Salah threw himself down, but was fouled so definite pen. There was an obvious foul on the keeper for Liverpool's disallowed goal and then the winner was fine. A decent game for the officials for a change
He’s not interfering with play.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 43 seconds ago
That is a fair interpretation welsh but I’m not sure how that would apply to a goalkeeper who might make a save.
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Didn't similar happen in last weeks Leicester game? Xhaka was offside and got between the keeper and the ball to stop the keeper attempting to get to it.
I think in this specific situation that it can only apply before Jota gets there because once Jota gets to the ball Mane is no longer blocking the line of vision because he is behind Jota. So it would only apply for if Mane being there might have prevented the keeper getting there before Jota.
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
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Eh?
That’s not remotely comparable to a goal scorer who was hidden by a player in an offside position, in the penalty area!
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
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Eh?
That’s not remotely comparable to a goal scorer who was hidden by a player in an offside position, in the penalty area!
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Sure, so you re-write the rule where any player in an offside position who is blocking any defenders view is automatically offside. Which muddies the rule, as I said.
Or you make it that it is only applicable if blocking the view impacts the defenders ability to play the ball which is the exact rule now, and the current situation isn't offside.
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
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I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Who’s taking it personal?
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
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Rules include subjectivity for the most part, it’s nothing new.
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Who’s taking it personal?
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Just a hunch, buddy.
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
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This is absurd.
Sorry welsh, but you’re taking a reason view and applying it in scenarios without any common sense at all.
We’re going down the offside route here - things really don’t have to be as black and white as you believe.
For context, see ‘reckless’.
I wonder if you’ll ever realise why your view on these things is flawed.
Anyway, I’m out as I know you won’t accept it. Have a nice evening.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
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Rules include subjectivity for the most part, it’s nothing new.
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Yes, an interpretation on whether the act fell foul of the rule, which the offside law already has. That interpretation is still defined by the law as written and so the law needs to be defined. If the law is not defined then it does not exist.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
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This is absurd.
Sorry welsh, but you’re taking a reason view and applying it in scenarios without any common sense at all.
We’re going down the offside route here - things really don’t have to be as black and white as you believe.
For context, see ‘reckless’.
I wonder if you’ll ever realise why your view on these things is flawed.
Anyway, I’m out as I know you won’t accept it. Have a nice evening.
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My view is not flawed. You just refuse to accept when you have written something that doesn't work.
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
Trying to handwave things as "common sense" is not a reasonable response. Often when people claim something is common sense it is because they have a belief but no evidence to actually back it up.
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
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Who cares? Or are you one of those brexity "had enough of experts" types?
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Liverpool are relentless when searching for a winner. Reminds me of Fergie vintage. They are also so selfless especially Mane, something you hope other teams will learn. The hammers had an opportunity earlier to go one up but Fornals did not pass the ball to his teammate who was in a better position.
Klopp has done a fantastic job building a culture where the attackers dont care who is putting the Ball in the net
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Not really true
Salah is one of the greediest players in the PL
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Liverpool are relentless when searching for a winner. Reminds me of Fergie vintage. They are also so selfless especially Mane, something you hope other teams will learn. The hammers had an opportunity earlier to go one up but Fornals did not pass the ball to his teammate who was in a better position.
Klopp has done a fantastic job building a culture where the attackers dont care who is putting the Ball in the net
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Not really true
Salah is one of the greediest players in the PL
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Probably why he’s been one of the highest scorers since coming to the league. He also has a very high assist ratio but let’s not let that get in the way of the greedy narrative!
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
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Who cares? Or are you one of those brexity "had enough of experts" types?
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Precisely my point, who cares.
I know many people with post-graduate degrees and their common sense is comparable to a turnip.
Offside rule
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posted on 31/10/20
That is a fair interpretation welsh but I’m not sure how that would apply to a goalkeeper who might make a save.
posted on 31/10/20
I think the rule's okay as it is and there was nothing wrong with the goal today. In fact, they got all the big calls right. Salah threw himself down, but was fouled so definite pen. There was an obvious foul on the keeper for Liverpool's disallowed goal and then the winner was fine. A decent game for the officials for a change
posted on 31/10/20
He’s not interfering with play.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 43 seconds ago
That is a fair interpretation welsh but I’m not sure how that would apply to a goalkeeper who might make a save.
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Didn't similar happen in last weeks Leicester game? Xhaka was offside and got between the keeper and the ball to stop the keeper attempting to get to it.
I think in this specific situation that it can only apply before Jota gets there because once Jota gets to the ball Mane is no longer blocking the line of vision because he is behind Jota. So it would only apply for if Mane being there might have prevented the keeper getting there before Jota.
posted on 31/10/20
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
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Eh?
That’s not remotely comparable to a goal scorer who was hidden by a player in an offside position, in the penalty area!
posted on 31/10/20
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
posted on 31/10/20
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 36 seconds ago
Possibly.
To be fair to the OP, he’s criticising the rule.
If you’re right then that makes his question valid.
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True, but if you try and roll it back you end up back ina situation where a player on the left wing is offside when the ball is played down the right wing.
Otherwise you end up muddying "interfering" even more.
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Eh?
That’s not remotely comparable to a goal scorer who was hidden by a player in an offside position, in the penalty area!
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Sure, so you re-write the rule where any player in an offside position who is blocking any defenders view is automatically offside. Which muddies the rule, as I said.
Or you make it that it is only applicable if blocking the view impacts the defenders ability to play the ball which is the exact rule now, and the current situation isn't offside.
posted on 31/10/20
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Who’s taking it personal?
posted on 31/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
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Rules include subjectivity for the most part, it’s nothing new.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Who’s taking it personal?
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Just a hunch, buddy.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
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This is absurd.
Sorry welsh, but you’re taking a reason view and applying it in scenarios without any common sense at all.
We’re going down the offside route here - things really don’t have to be as black and white as you believe.
For context, see ‘reckless’.
I wonder if you’ll ever realise why your view on these things is flawed.
Anyway, I’m out as I know you won’t accept it. Have a nice evening.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There’s this little thing called common sense that would enable anyone with a reasonable grasp of football to determine the difference between the two scenarios.
Depends if you want black and white rules and a tick box for referees I suppose.
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For a rule to exist, it needs to be defined. The current rules already exactly state that it is offside if the offside player blocks the line of vision of a defender and affects his ability to play the ball.
For the goal today to count as offside, you would have to remove the bit about ability to play the ball and just have it so that any offside player who blocks the vision of a defender is offside.
This makes the rule much muddied because if a defender on the other side of the pitch had his view blocked then it would be offside.
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Rules include subjectivity for the most part, it’s nothing new.
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Yes, an interpretation on whether the act fell foul of the rule, which the offside law already has. That interpretation is still defined by the law as written and so the law needs to be defined. If the law is not defined then it does not exist.
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by KLS (U1695)
posted 2 minutes ago
Was this rule only brought in before tonight’s game?
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Maybe, just maybe, it’s an incident from today’s game that sparked the article you don’t need to take it as a personal affront to your beloved club.
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Exactly. Wasn't a dig at Liverpool as it happens all the time. I knew the first 20 or so posts would be Liverpool fans protecting their club, though.
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
________________________
I and many others believe Mane was interfering with play because he was standing in the keepers eye line. He was miles offside.
The defenders have him on their radar because its quite common for strikers to abuse this 'tactic' and stay offside for a while, confusing the opposition, making them wondering what Mane's going to do.
Yes the goal was great, it was a very good goal but if you think Mane wasn't interfering with play, then yes you're a bit of a twit.
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The keeper stands at the back of the pitch and views the whole pitch. Your interpretation would mean any ayer in an offside position would be interfering with play no matter where on the pitch they were.
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This is absurd.
Sorry welsh, but you’re taking a reason view and applying it in scenarios without any common sense at all.
We’re going down the offside route here - things really don’t have to be as black and white as you believe.
For context, see ‘reckless’.
I wonder if you’ll ever realise why your view on these things is flawed.
Anyway, I’m out as I know you won’t accept it. Have a nice evening.
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My view is not flawed. You just refuse to accept when you have written something that doesn't work.
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
Trying to handwave things as "common sense" is not a reasonable response. Often when people claim something is common sense it is because they have a belief but no evidence to actually back it up.
posted on 31/10/20
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
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Who cares? Or are you one of those brexity "had enough of experts" types?
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Liverpool are relentless when searching for a winner. Reminds me of Fergie vintage. They are also so selfless especially Mane, something you hope other teams will learn. The hammers had an opportunity earlier to go one up but Fornals did not pass the ball to his teammate who was in a better position.
Klopp has done a fantastic job building a culture where the attackers dont care who is putting the Ball in the net
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Not really true
Salah is one of the greediest players in the PL
posted on 31/10/20
comment by Jim Lahey (U22183)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Martial Law (U13506)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
Liverpool are relentless when searching for a winner. Reminds me of Fergie vintage. They are also so selfless especially Mane, something you hope other teams will learn. The hammers had an opportunity earlier to go one up but Fornals did not pass the ball to his teammate who was in a better position.
Klopp has done a fantastic job building a culture where the attackers dont care who is putting the Ball in the net
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Not really true
Salah is one of the greediest players in the PL
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Probably why he’s been one of the highest scorers since coming to the league. He also has a very high assist ratio but let’s not let that get in the way of the greedy narrative!
posted on 31/10/20
comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Greg- (U1192)
posted 2 minutes ago
I have a degree and a postgraduate diploma in legal practice. I have done courses on both legal drafting and legal writing. I have a very good understanding of the importance of ensuring that something is defined and enforceable so that it can actually be enforced.
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How many of those Houses of Parliament g0ons also have post graduate degrees?
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Who cares? Or are you one of those brexity "had enough of experts" types?
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Precisely my point, who cares.
I know many people with post-graduate degrees and their common sense is comparable to a turnip.
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