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4th place is more important to the chairmen and the accountants, maybe not the fans as much.
But the higher you finish in the league, the better the rewards so you should always strive for that.
Here come the nostalgia merchants. Incoming ‘there’s too much money in the game these days’ when the diet £1m footballer was sold in 1979. The money in football as long been different levels to the average Joe
*first £1m footballer
**has long been
Lol, typing on my phone my bad
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
4th place is more important to the chairmen and the accountants, maybe not the fans as much.
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This. I remember the joy when United win Cup winners cup against Barcelona. Now winning Europa league just mean we get to champions league.
Soon as clubs worked out there was money to be made.
So yeah, got to be put it squarely at Sky's door.
Unfortunately Sky effectively "own" football, and we as fans have no say in the matter, other than to turn our backs, walk away and follow something else.
Bosman rule - the birthday of agents in football.
In 5 years from now, we might talk about VAR
Was it in 1992 once sky came in ?
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Yep, and I remember it very well. Suddenly, the money was flowing in baby - thanks Sky
The day football died RIP
It's mirrored capitalism really, without legislation to balance the odds the natural outcome seems to be huge inequality that can't be overcome.
Gone are the days of clubs coming from "nowhere" to dominate for a time then being overtaken again by a club with a similar story. It used to be that innovation and brilliant management could take clubs of so many different levels all the way to the top.
Nowadays there's so much money held by those at the top it's simply not possible for minnows to shine without being stripped of all their best assets and of course sinking back down.
I think I’d like us to win a cup because it’s been so long. But if we’d had recent success I’d probably value top 4 more
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
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Football basically sold its soul in the mid to late 70s, when the money starting swirling about, even before the Prem. Definitely the Prem has helped though with the demise of football as I used to know it.
Seriously you would have been laughed off the planet if you started talking about top four for the first 100 years of football.
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
Mixed feelings...I enjoyed the money they pumped into the game, but then the game had some dark side to it because of the money.
Football started to become a big business and the sharks, sorry the agents started to circle vying for young blood.
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 15 minutes ago
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
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I’m guessing wrong thread!
Football sold it's soul when it allowed Woolwich Arsenal to move North London.
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
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Good comment
If they introduced a cap on the cost to consumers for watching it both live and on TV then it would at least put a stop to rinsing punters.
Sounds mental to most I'm sure but to me the cost of say Sky + BT + Amazon to watch only some of the games in the UK seems absolutely mental
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 33 minutes ago
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
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comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
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Good comment
If they introduced a cap on the cost to consumers for watching it both live and on TV then it would at least put a stop to rinsing punters.
Sounds mental to most I'm sure but to me the cost of say Sky + BT + Amazon to watch only some of the games in the UK seems absolutely mental
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Sorry read your comment back Giröulski and realised I don't agree with the initial comment. Bar limits in which country clubs play in it is a free market and that's why you've got a game of impossible odds due to accumulated wealth
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posted on 18/12/20
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posted on 18/12/20
4th place is more important to the chairmen and the accountants, maybe not the fans as much.
posted on 18/12/20
But the higher you finish in the league, the better the rewards so you should always strive for that.
posted on 18/12/20
Here come the nostalgia merchants. Incoming ‘there’s too much money in the game these days’ when the diet £1m footballer was sold in 1979. The money in football as long been different levels to the average Joe
posted on 18/12/20
*first £1m footballer
**has long been
Lol, typing on my phone my bad
posted on 18/12/20
Go back to bed Stretchy.
posted on 18/12/20
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
4th place is more important to the chairmen and the accountants, maybe not the fans as much.
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This. I remember the joy when United win Cup winners cup against Barcelona. Now winning Europa league just mean we get to champions league.
posted on 18/12/20
Soon as clubs worked out there was money to be made.
So yeah, got to be put it squarely at Sky's door.
Unfortunately Sky effectively "own" football, and we as fans have no say in the matter, other than to turn our backs, walk away and follow something else.
posted on 18/12/20
Bosman rule - the birthday of agents in football.
In 5 years from now, we might talk about VAR
posted on 18/12/20
Was it in 1992 once sky came in ?
==============
Yep, and I remember it very well. Suddenly, the money was flowing in baby - thanks Sky
The day football died RIP
posted on 18/12/20
Jimmy Hill.
posted on 18/12/20
It's mirrored capitalism really, without legislation to balance the odds the natural outcome seems to be huge inequality that can't be overcome.
Gone are the days of clubs coming from "nowhere" to dominate for a time then being overtaken again by a club with a similar story. It used to be that innovation and brilliant management could take clubs of so many different levels all the way to the top.
Nowadays there's so much money held by those at the top it's simply not possible for minnows to shine without being stripped of all their best assets and of course sinking back down.
posted on 18/12/20
I think I’d like us to win a cup because it’s been so long. But if we’d had recent success I’d probably value top 4 more
posted on 18/12/20
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
posted on 18/12/20
Oh ffs
posted on 18/12/20
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posted on 18/12/20
i agree with palmers
posted on 18/12/20
Football basically sold its soul in the mid to late 70s, when the money starting swirling about, even before the Prem. Definitely the Prem has helped though with the demise of football as I used to know it.
Seriously you would have been laughed off the planet if you started talking about top four for the first 100 years of football.
posted on 18/12/20
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
posted on 18/12/20
Mixed feelings...I enjoyed the money they pumped into the game, but then the game had some dark side to it because of the money.
Football started to become a big business and the sharks, sorry the agents started to circle vying for young blood.
posted on 18/12/20
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 15 minutes ago
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
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I’m guessing wrong thread!
posted on 18/12/20
Football sold it's soul when it allowed Woolwich Arsenal to move North London.
posted on 18/12/20
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
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Good comment
If they introduced a cap on the cost to consumers for watching it both live and on TV then it would at least put a stop to rinsing punters.
Sounds mental to most I'm sure but to me the cost of say Sky + BT + Amazon to watch only some of the games in the UK seems absolutely mental
posted on 18/12/20
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 33 minutes ago
Roque Aarons the Christmas Tree on a hyypia Haller Gray
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posted on 18/12/20
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 3 minutes ago
The problem is capitalism without a free market. Every game's broadcast is a monopoly. The premier league is a monopoly.
Therefore, football is structurally destined to become more extractive of its consumer, with fans having less and less power in the exchange.
The PL going worldwide only accelerates the loss of power on our end as the market becomes wider.
It's just not our game in the way it was. But hey, Adidas are releasing great Arsenal fashion. Go buy it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good comment
If they introduced a cap on the cost to consumers for watching it both live and on TV then it would at least put a stop to rinsing punters.
Sounds mental to most I'm sure but to me the cost of say Sky + BT + Amazon to watch only some of the games in the UK seems absolutely mental
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Sorry read your comment back Giröulski and realised I don't agree with the initial comment. Bar limits in which country clubs play in it is a free market and that's why you've got a game of impossible odds due to accumulated wealth
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