Time for a return to basics methinks.
442
Jumpers for goalposts
Marvelous
Rather it go to the players than the owners
Messi earns 71 million Euros annually
He apparently also gets over 50 million Euros if he sees his deal out.
Rather it go to fans through cheaper season tickets, United tops etc. Less to Sky.
4-4-2 makes for exciting football.
Why spend £1bn on a 3-4-3 formation when you can get a 4-4-2 formation for free?
RM and Barca have held talks with Raiola in recent weeks over the transfer of Erling Haaland. Despite being massively in debt and needing this wedge of cash from the Super League to save themselves (or 'save football'.
Raiola then came out and said Haaland could be the first £1m a week footballer. So we know the sort of figures they've been discussing.
Perez 'Football needs more money.' How about you cut your cloth accordingly?
United have supposedly lost something like £120m in the past year. And the Glazers still take out a £20m dividend. We are happy to negotiate with Pogba for a contract worth north of the £400k a week City have just given KDB. We have DDG on the bench picking up £350k, Romero in the stands picking up £100k and Phil Jones injuring himself falling off the treatment table counting his £160k a week.
I never really understand the outrage about player salaries. We live in a market economy, and in a relatively laissez-faire interpretation of capitalism that doesn't intervene to limit the gap between the highest and lowest paid people. In my view, we should have greater regulation. In the absence of that, it's not the players' fault that they are commanding salaries that reflect the value their work generates for their employers. Unless the clubs are incompetent, they are making profits from the surplus value of the labour of the players.
My greater concern is how much the clubs are paying their cleaners and catering staff. Are they reinvesting some of the revenue to nurture the community of fans and the local area that are such an underappreciated element of the value of the club?
The players aren't exploiting anyone and I don't think the salaries of the talent are an obstacle to paying decent wages to backroom staff. The owners, by contrast, are making money from control of the assets while generating none of the value. They can afford to maybe cut back a bit - or even get a job and work for their money for a change.
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 2 minutes ago
RM and Barca have held talks with Raiola in recent weeks over the transfer of Erling Haaland. Despite being massively in debt and needing this wedge of cash from the Super League to save themselves (or 'save football'.
Raiola then came out and said Haaland could be the first £1m a week footballer. So we know the sort of figures they've been discussing.
Perez 'Football needs more money.' How about you cut your cloth accordingly?
United have supposedly lost something like £120m in the past year. And the Glazers still take out a £20m dividend. We are happy to negotiate with Pogba for a contract worth north of the £400k a week City have just given KDB. We have DDG on the bench picking up £350k, Romero in the stands picking up £100k and Phil Jones injuring himself falling off the treatment table counting his £160k a week.
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I believe that Romero is on 50k and Jones 70k. Still mad that we gave Jones a new contract though.
Ha ha, I like that last sentence RR. as if.
Players wages are always shown as per week by the disgruntled newspaper owners.
No other high earners get the same treatment, pop stars, suppliers to the NHS, Prime Ministers etc;
Still I do think a gradual taxhike would not be a bad thing. And if it could be used in a good cause, even popular.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
I never really understand the outrage about player salaries. We live in a market economy, and in a relatively laissez-faire interpretation of capitalism that doesn't intervene to limit the gap between the highest and lowest paid people. In my view, we should have greater regulation. In the absence of that, it's not the players' fault that they are commanding salaries that reflect the value their work generates for their employers. Unless the clubs are incompetent, they are making profits from the surplus value of the labour of the players.
My greater concern is how much the clubs are paying their cleaners and catering staff. Are they reinvesting some of the revenue to nurture the community of fans and the local area that are such an underappreciated element of the value of the club?
The players aren't exploiting anyone and I don't think the salaries of the talent are an obstacle to paying decent wages to backroom staff. The owners, by contrast, are making money from control of the assets while generating none of the value. They can afford to maybe cut back a bit - or even get a job and work for their money for a change.
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Plus it’s a great way to get huge sums of money from overseas investors into the UK public pocket through income tax.
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
Players deserve to be paid well but if the the big clubs banded together to control salaries then they would not need to get desperate when they are not qualifying for the lucrative competitions.
Contracts should be more flexible. If you play a game you get this, if you're not playing a game you get paid x, if you're injured you get paid y, if you play in the CL you get paid z, if you get relegated you get paid that.
If you score goals you get paid extra, if you get assists you get paid extra, if you keep clean sheets you get paid extra etc.
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 3 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
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The fans should pay the price for this in my opinion, not the rich owners.
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
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Agreed.
I'm not sure we can say football has hit a ceiling when 20 clubs just walked away from £350m per season.
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
Why spend £1bn on a 3-4-3 formation when you can get a 4-4-2 formation for free?
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Nice
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 8 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
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But not the European cup
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
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I get that but where does it stop?
Salary caps or spending caps are going to have to be introduced sooner or later. It's just getting silly. Nobody deserves to earn 800k a week for playing 2 games and training for a few hrs a day in between. It's obscene.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
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But NOT the Champions League.
Also this mantra that players careers are short and life ends before 40, blah, blah, blah, needs to stop as well.
As far as I'm aware Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are still alive. Wayne Rooney is Derby manager and Ryan Mason has just become our interim head coach at age 29.
Better the players than the owners.
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 3 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fans should pay the price for this in my opinion, not the rich owners.
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I bought a laptop so I could illegally stream matches, why should the burden always be on the likes of me?
It’s not on, about time the club gave a bit back
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
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I get that but where does it stop?
Salary caps or spending caps are going to have to be introduced sooner or later. It's just getting silly. Nobody deserves to earn 800k a week for playing 2 games and training for a few hrs a day in between. It's obscene.
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totally agree
They won't be able to cap anything. You'll just get Mansour and the like taking them to court over restriction of trade. Don't know why they bother, it's not like they follow the rules anyway, I guess it's just less effort if there aren't any.
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posted on 21/4/21
Time for a return to basics methinks.
442
Jumpers for goalposts
Marvelous
posted on 21/4/21
Rather it go to the players than the owners
posted on 21/4/21
Messi earns 71 million Euros annually
He apparently also gets over 50 million Euros if he sees his deal out.
posted on 21/4/21
Rather it go to fans through cheaper season tickets, United tops etc. Less to Sky.
4-4-2 makes for exciting football.
posted on 21/4/21
Why spend £1bn on a 3-4-3 formation when you can get a 4-4-2 formation for free?
posted on 21/4/21
RM and Barca have held talks with Raiola in recent weeks over the transfer of Erling Haaland. Despite being massively in debt and needing this wedge of cash from the Super League to save themselves (or 'save football'.
Raiola then came out and said Haaland could be the first £1m a week footballer. So we know the sort of figures they've been discussing.
Perez 'Football needs more money.' How about you cut your cloth accordingly?
United have supposedly lost something like £120m in the past year. And the Glazers still take out a £20m dividend. We are happy to negotiate with Pogba for a contract worth north of the £400k a week City have just given KDB. We have DDG on the bench picking up £350k, Romero in the stands picking up £100k and Phil Jones injuring himself falling off the treatment table counting his £160k a week.
posted on 21/4/21
I never really understand the outrage about player salaries. We live in a market economy, and in a relatively laissez-faire interpretation of capitalism that doesn't intervene to limit the gap between the highest and lowest paid people. In my view, we should have greater regulation. In the absence of that, it's not the players' fault that they are commanding salaries that reflect the value their work generates for their employers. Unless the clubs are incompetent, they are making profits from the surplus value of the labour of the players.
My greater concern is how much the clubs are paying their cleaners and catering staff. Are they reinvesting some of the revenue to nurture the community of fans and the local area that are such an underappreciated element of the value of the club?
The players aren't exploiting anyone and I don't think the salaries of the talent are an obstacle to paying decent wages to backroom staff. The owners, by contrast, are making money from control of the assets while generating none of the value. They can afford to maybe cut back a bit - or even get a job and work for their money for a change.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 2 minutes ago
RM and Barca have held talks with Raiola in recent weeks over the transfer of Erling Haaland. Despite being massively in debt and needing this wedge of cash from the Super League to save themselves (or 'save football'.
Raiola then came out and said Haaland could be the first £1m a week footballer. So we know the sort of figures they've been discussing.
Perez 'Football needs more money.' How about you cut your cloth accordingly?
United have supposedly lost something like £120m in the past year. And the Glazers still take out a £20m dividend. We are happy to negotiate with Pogba for a contract worth north of the £400k a week City have just given KDB. We have DDG on the bench picking up £350k, Romero in the stands picking up £100k and Phil Jones injuring himself falling off the treatment table counting his £160k a week.
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I believe that Romero is on 50k and Jones 70k. Still mad that we gave Jones a new contract though.
posted on 21/4/21
Ha ha, I like that last sentence RR. as if.
Players wages are always shown as per week by the disgruntled newspaper owners.
No other high earners get the same treatment, pop stars, suppliers to the NHS, Prime Ministers etc;
Still I do think a gradual taxhike would not be a bad thing. And if it could be used in a good cause, even popular.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
I never really understand the outrage about player salaries. We live in a market economy, and in a relatively laissez-faire interpretation of capitalism that doesn't intervene to limit the gap between the highest and lowest paid people. In my view, we should have greater regulation. In the absence of that, it's not the players' fault that they are commanding salaries that reflect the value their work generates for their employers. Unless the clubs are incompetent, they are making profits from the surplus value of the labour of the players.
My greater concern is how much the clubs are paying their cleaners and catering staff. Are they reinvesting some of the revenue to nurture the community of fans and the local area that are such an underappreciated element of the value of the club?
The players aren't exploiting anyone and I don't think the salaries of the talent are an obstacle to paying decent wages to backroom staff. The owners, by contrast, are making money from control of the assets while generating none of the value. They can afford to maybe cut back a bit - or even get a job and work for their money for a change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Plus it’s a great way to get huge sums of money from overseas investors into the UK public pocket through income tax.
posted on 21/4/21
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
posted on 21/4/21
Players deserve to be paid well but if the the big clubs banded together to control salaries then they would not need to get desperate when they are not qualifying for the lucrative competitions.
Contracts should be more flexible. If you play a game you get this, if you're not playing a game you get paid x, if you're injured you get paid y, if you play in the CL you get paid z, if you get relegated you get paid that.
If you score goals you get paid extra, if you get assists you get paid extra, if you keep clean sheets you get paid extra etc.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 3 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fans should pay the price for this in my opinion, not the rich owners.
posted on 21/4/21
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
posted on 21/4/21
I'm not sure we can say football has hit a ceiling when 20 clubs just walked away from £350m per season.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 24 minutes ago
Why spend £1bn on a 3-4-3 formation when you can get a 4-4-2 formation for free?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nice
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 8 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But not the European cup
posted on 21/4/21
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that but where does it stop?
Salary caps or spending caps are going to have to be introduced sooner or later. It's just getting silly. Nobody deserves to earn 800k a week for playing 2 games and training for a few hrs a day in between. It's obscene.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 6 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But NOT the Champions League.
posted on 21/4/21
Also this mantra that players careers are short and life ends before 40, blah, blah, blah, needs to stop as well.
As far as I'm aware Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are still alive. Wayne Rooney is Derby manager and Ryan Mason has just become our interim head coach at age 29.
posted on 21/4/21
Better the players than the owners.
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Danny Mullen (U1734)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 3 minutes ago
Players salaries are not sustainable.
Transfer fees are not sustainable.
Hence why clubs are broke.
Something has to give.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fans should pay the price for this in my opinion, not the rich owners.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I bought a laptop so I could illegally stream matches, why should the burden always be on the likes of me?
It’s not on, about time the club gave a bit back
posted on 21/4/21
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by dunc manson... you must follow ole... you must follow ole (U11713)
posted 2 minutes ago
i dont think you can blame the players at all.
they are paid what the club deems them to be worth in terms of what they bring to the club.
if my manager came up and said here is an extra 50k a year, im not gonna turn around and say no ta
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get that but where does it stop?
Salary caps or spending caps are going to have to be introduced sooner or later. It's just getting silly. Nobody deserves to earn 800k a week for playing 2 games and training for a few hrs a day in between. It's obscene.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
totally agree
posted on 21/4/21
They won't be able to cap anything. You'll just get Mansour and the like taking them to court over restriction of trade. Don't know why they bother, it's not like they follow the rules anyway, I guess it's just less effort if there aren't any.
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