comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 8 minutes ago
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posted 20 minutes ago
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posted 29 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
BLM political policies?
Tell us what they want?
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It's not a secret, Bluebells, just go to their website:
#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
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we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
Yeah. Having a real estate portfolio. 😂
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I read about that. Didn't one of the founders (the self professed "trained Marxist"take profits and buy herself a bunch of houses?
This is the thing about Marxists, they are Marxist up until the point when it becomes profitable... then they turn into Capitalists.
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Tis why I'm a Marxist now.😂
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Even activism is a lucrative business now I guess. Maybe it always was.
These guys must be laughing at the common people while they fight and argue, while at the same time making a ton of cash on top.
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What a truly desperate smear attempt.
Try harder.
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Standard stuff. Demonise progressive action.
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Completely agree that there's a lot of bad information out there but I think this one has some truth to it though.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/marxist-blm-leader-buys-1-4-million-home-in-ritzy-la-enclave/
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So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Are you this bitter because you live in a one room hovel and have done nothing with your life that anyone will ever remember?
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Mocking the poor. Stay classy.
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Harry Enfield did that in the 90’s. It’s just typical Brit sense of humour
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But Harry Enfield was funny.
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That’s the criteria for staying classy
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
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I accept that a large portion of my charity donations go on big marketing salaries for highly paid professionals and swanky offices (the big organisations, anyway). It'd be naïve to think their campaigns and operations were marshalled by one or two ascetics living in a bedsit and licking stamps on begging letters. The organisations wouldn't exist to the level they're at without all that corporate machinery and expertise.
The campaigners on the ground are a completely different matter, and if you carry on with the BLM comparisons, they're the ones being smeared by the accusations of the leadership skimming off the top.
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
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It is but in the absence of any oppostition these days they probably feel they need to be.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
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Are you saying that people are booing because Edward Colston's statue was torn down?
Do these people think we should have more memorials to the slave trade, not less?
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
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You’re not donating to BLM or a charity though if you donate to that individuals organisation. It’s a for profit organisation that is using BLM in its name, that’s it.
Thought that particular organisations money being used to purchase individual houses was debunked not long after the initial accusation anyway though.
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posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
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comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's all about luxury communism.
It does make me laugh when the older generation say 'socialism simply doesn't work' when they had free school meals, free prescriptions, free education (in fact paid to go), free health care, free dentistry, free opticians and got a pension at 65.
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Socialism is how we recovered from the second world war, and the war generation were staunch socialists, they built all the infrastructure that's made this country what it is today, the roads, the rail, the water and the electricity networks.
They contributed a fair share to rebuild a country, then their kids sold it all off, and it's barely attracted any investment since, all exploited to extract profit and provide an ever worsening service.
It's funny how the boomers idolise the war generation untill it comes to their economic politics..
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Not quite.
Socialism or capitalism isn't the answer. The truth is somewhere in the middle (like with most things in life).
Remember that the country was in a tough place in the 80s and the UK had a worse reputation for striking than the French.
You need capitalism to help you to innovate. Even the Chinese government have worked this out.
A mixed economy is best in my opinion. The key is to ensure that power is not overly centralised because that leads to bad outcomes.
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Democratic socialism is that middling ground.
Capitalism for everything but essential services, which should be run as a not for profit.
Whilst flipping trickle down economics on its head, not giving money to corporations and instead giving it to the populace to spend and drive the economy.
I'm not sure what part of my post was "Not quite" that's exactly how the recovery was led post war.
Also: The strikes were what kept wages rising in line with productivity, since Thatcher broke the unions we've seen a 20% Increase in wages over almost 40 years whilst the cost of living has almost trebled.
Adjusted for inflation earning 26k in 1990 was 62k in today's money, yet people in those same roles now earn around 31k on average
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I was referring to the socialism being the way we rebuilt the country after the war.
If you are referring to that short period afterwards then you are spot on. And I think you need that kind of sacrifice to rebuild after such devastation. But I don't think people could do that in the modern day and age.
My point was since then we have swung like a pendulum towards a more free market which was definitely needed in the 80s and 90s onwards.
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We arent a free market, the pendulum has swung well past when the government pays out over £100bn a year in corporate welfare, and tops up wages to an affordable level
The "swing" you refer to has also failed to deliver infrastructure repairs (1/3rd of all water lost to leaks, 1/2 all electricity lost in transmission to homes) nor new infrastructure.
Its a system that essentially cashed out boomers parents sacrifice, by selling off council homes and utilities, then cashed out millenials futures by pulling up the ladder on a raft of benefits the boomers themselves enjoyed. Including crucially pensions
Millenials have half the wealth of boomers at every age milestone, our pensions are worth around 1/10th of what theirs are, and Boomers have more disposable income and wealth in retirement than working age Millenials.
Its literally the richest pensioners have EVER been. we are rapidly headed towards another crash in this neo-liberalist hellhole due to a lack of disposable incomes.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
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It is but in the absence of any oppostition these days they probably feel they need to be.
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Interesting theory, but completely untrue. The BBC is seen as neither right or left, with both sides moaning about bias.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
I would say that given the right wing press being far more popular in this country a media outlet in the centre would seem left by comparison. Especially if you consume right wing media more often.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/03/07/how-left-or-right-wing-are-uks-newspapers
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
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Are you saying that people are booing because Edward Colston's statue was torn down?
Do these people think we should have more memorials to the slave trade, not less?
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People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.
And of course there are the out and out racists who will always boo.
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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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Your mind is made up regardless of whatever your told, so just crack on with the mentality that you have, whilst the rest of the world moves on..and we'll do the same
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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I lived in bristol for two years
Colston was an issue i hear about repeatedly.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
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Exactly, the lengths that people go to to discredit something or someone to do with BLM is ridiculous, but this is the same tactics that has been working on the masses for centuries til this day, so i'm not surprised at half the BS excuses i've read on this thread.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
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Clearly university professors should not make enough money to own a house.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
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Haha, everything thats wrong with some people on this thread summed up.
The OP asks why the boo's, I've given the reasons and then I'm condemned for it.
Don't let the fact that I wouldn't boo get in the way of your judgement of me.
Also, the property portfolio is co-owned by Cullors spouse..
They both work multiple jobs.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
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Haha, everything thats wrong with some people on this thread summed up.
The OP asks why the boo's, I've given the reasons and then I'm condemned for it.
Don't let the fact that I wouldn't boo get in the way of your judgement of me.
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I was addressing the points raised in the comment, not you directly.
So, when I said ‘If you feel lectured......’ that was addressed to whomever does, ie the people that feel lectured by footballers asking to stop being racially abused.
The fact you took that personally is, again, down to you.
That’s because your argument for why they boo is based on their own ignorance and instead of saying we should look to change that, you’re suggesting the message should be changed to placate it.
Taking the knee is associated with BLM. There’s nothing wrong with saying that at all. It isn’t associated with individual factions within the BLM movement such as those with political ideologies. The players, the fa and kick it out have all now come out and reinforced that.
If you choose to still argue it
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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Once again you insist with this ridiculously illogical position.
Players are taking the knee. There are Emirates logos on the stadium. Taking the knee must be about furthering Emirates goals.
That is literally the logic that you use and it is clear how absurd it is.
I saw a block leaning against a shop window earlier and there was an advert for bread I the window. That doesn't mean the bloke was supporting the baking profession.
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comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People #BLM (U21889)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
BLM political policies?
Tell us what they want?
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It's not a secret, Bluebells, just go to their website:
#BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
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we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
Yeah. Having a real estate portfolio. 😂
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I read about that. Didn't one of the founders (the self professed "trained Marxist"take profits and buy herself a bunch of houses?
This is the thing about Marxists, they are Marxist up until the point when it becomes profitable... then they turn into Capitalists.
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Tis why I'm a Marxist now.😂
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Even activism is a lucrative business now I guess. Maybe it always was.
These guys must be laughing at the common people while they fight and argue, while at the same time making a ton of cash on top.
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What a truly desperate smear attempt.
Try harder.
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Standard stuff. Demonise progressive action.
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Completely agree that there's a lot of bad information out there but I think this one has some truth to it though.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/marxist-blm-leader-buys-1-4-million-home-in-ritzy-la-enclave/
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So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Are you this bitter because you live in a one room hovel and have done nothing with your life that anyone will ever remember?
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Mocking the poor. Stay classy.
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Harry Enfield did that in the 90’s. It’s just typical Brit sense of humour
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But Harry Enfield was funny.
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That’s the criteria for staying classy
posted on 10/6/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
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I accept that a large portion of my charity donations go on big marketing salaries for highly paid professionals and swanky offices (the big organisations, anyway). It'd be naïve to think their campaigns and operations were marshalled by one or two ascetics living in a bedsit and licking stamps on begging letters. The organisations wouldn't exist to the level they're at without all that corporate machinery and expertise.
The campaigners on the ground are a completely different matter, and if you carry on with the BLM comparisons, they're the ones being smeared by the accusations of the leadership skimming off the top.
posted on 10/6/21
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
posted on 10/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
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It is but in the absence of any oppostition these days they probably feel they need to be.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
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Are you saying that people are booing because Edward Colston's statue was torn down?
Do these people think we should have more memorials to the slave trade, not less?
posted on 10/6/21
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 1 minute ago
Based on what has been reported it is clear that she has skimmed some off of the top. She is profiteering from the cause. It is obvious to see. This is not a comment on BLM, it is a comment on her.
Try to look at it rationally and not through the eyes of an ideologue. There is nothing different between what she is doing and what Boris did when he decorated his flat.
If you lambast one you must lambast the other.
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If you're talking about snouts in the trough with the Tories, there's a lot more than Boris and his flat. Awards of contracts during Covid have been deemed unlawful (that's fact now, not opinion), housing developments have been rushed through to people like Richard Desmond, when the minister shared a dinner table with him the night before, PPE contracts were awarded to old school chums and the supply was unusable as they had no experience in this area, the list goes on. In America we've had donations for the Mexico wall diverted to personal accounts and millions in PAC donations funnelled into personal campaigns.
But that's irrelevant to this discussion - just as irrelevant as whether BLM leadership have used their profile to further their own personal positions.
I imagine if there's been criminal activity ('skimmed some off the top' as you called it), they're not exactly being low key about it so legal action will surely follow. Until then it's just yet another a smear campaign to detract from the message by people who oppose it.
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I am not sure it will be criminal, but it is definitely unethical. I donate money to charity quite often and it makes me feel awful knowing that a big portion of that money won't make it to the people that need it. That for me is the same principle.
Are you OK with your donations going to an individual at the top?
It has been good talking about this though. It is good to understand how different people see things and is quite enlightening.
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You’re not donating to BLM or a charity though if you donate to that individuals organisation. It’s a for profit organisation that is using BLM in its name, that’s it.
Thought that particular organisations money being used to purchase individual houses was debunked not long after the initial accusation anyway though.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's all about luxury communism.
It does make me laugh when the older generation say 'socialism simply doesn't work' when they had free school meals, free prescriptions, free education (in fact paid to go), free health care, free dentistry, free opticians and got a pension at 65.
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Socialism is how we recovered from the second world war, and the war generation were staunch socialists, they built all the infrastructure that's made this country what it is today, the roads, the rail, the water and the electricity networks.
They contributed a fair share to rebuild a country, then their kids sold it all off, and it's barely attracted any investment since, all exploited to extract profit and provide an ever worsening service.
It's funny how the boomers idolise the war generation untill it comes to their economic politics..
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Not quite.
Socialism or capitalism isn't the answer. The truth is somewhere in the middle (like with most things in life).
Remember that the country was in a tough place in the 80s and the UK had a worse reputation for striking than the French.
You need capitalism to help you to innovate. Even the Chinese government have worked this out.
A mixed economy is best in my opinion. The key is to ensure that power is not overly centralised because that leads to bad outcomes.
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Democratic socialism is that middling ground.
Capitalism for everything but essential services, which should be run as a not for profit.
Whilst flipping trickle down economics on its head, not giving money to corporations and instead giving it to the populace to spend and drive the economy.
I'm not sure what part of my post was "Not quite" that's exactly how the recovery was led post war.
Also: The strikes were what kept wages rising in line with productivity, since Thatcher broke the unions we've seen a 20% Increase in wages over almost 40 years whilst the cost of living has almost trebled.
Adjusted for inflation earning 26k in 1990 was 62k in today's money, yet people in those same roles now earn around 31k on average
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I was referring to the socialism being the way we rebuilt the country after the war.
If you are referring to that short period afterwards then you are spot on. And I think you need that kind of sacrifice to rebuild after such devastation. But I don't think people could do that in the modern day and age.
My point was since then we have swung like a pendulum towards a more free market which was definitely needed in the 80s and 90s onwards.
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We arent a free market, the pendulum has swung well past when the government pays out over £100bn a year in corporate welfare, and tops up wages to an affordable level
The "swing" you refer to has also failed to deliver infrastructure repairs (1/3rd of all water lost to leaks, 1/2 all electricity lost in transmission to homes) nor new infrastructure.
Its a system that essentially cashed out boomers parents sacrifice, by selling off council homes and utilities, then cashed out millenials futures by pulling up the ladder on a raft of benefits the boomers themselves enjoyed. Including crucially pensions
Millenials have half the wealth of boomers at every age milestone, our pensions are worth around 1/10th of what theirs are, and Boomers have more disposable income and wealth in retirement than working age Millenials.
Its literally the richest pensioners have EVER been. we are rapidly headed towards another crash in this neo-liberalist hellhole due to a lack of disposable incomes.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 11 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Spectacular conflation there with the lefty bias BBC thrown in for good measure
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It is but in the absence of any oppostition these days they probably feel they need to be.
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Interesting theory, but completely untrue. The BBC is seen as neither right or left, with both sides moaning about bias.
https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings
I would say that given the right wing press being far more popular in this country a media outlet in the centre would seem left by comparison. Especially if you consume right wing media more often.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/03/07/how-left-or-right-wing-are-uks-newspapers
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
posted on 10/6/21
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 19 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
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Are you saying that people are booing because Edward Colston's statue was torn down?
Do these people think we should have more memorials to the slave trade, not less?
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People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.
And of course there are the out and out racists who will always boo.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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Your mind is made up regardless of whatever your told, so just crack on with the mentality that you have, whilst the rest of the world moves on..and we'll do the same
posted on 10/6/21
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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I lived in bristol for two years
Colston was an issue i hear about repeatedly.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
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Exactly, the lengths that people go to to discredit something or someone to do with BLM is ridiculous, but this is the same tactics that has been working on the masses for centuries til this day, so i'm not surprised at half the BS excuses i've read on this thread.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by add912 (U9189)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 7 minutes ago
So she bought a nice house, what’s your point?
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Cough, cough, 4, cough, cough
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Still don't see the point,so if she was broke and lived at her mums then that makes the cause she is part of/ founded valid or something? but because she has bought properties, like millions of people do ,it isnt???
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My friend, with the utmost respect. Please don't conflate your loyalty and support for the cause with loyalty and support for this woman.
She is quite clearly profiteering personally. That does not make the overall cause a bad one.
I was just pointing out there are some opportunists out there that use this for personal gain, that's all.
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What makes me laugh about this is that nobody cares about the billions of pounds wasted by the UK government during this pandemic, according to some, but these same people have a problem with this. The woman us a university prof. has just signed a contract with Netflix to produce content. Probably making a bit more than $15.00 an hour.
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Clearly university professors should not make enough money to own a house.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
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Haha, everything thats wrong with some people on this thread summed up.
The OP asks why the boo's, I've given the reasons and then I'm condemned for it.
Don't let the fact that I wouldn't boo get in the way of your judgement of me.
posted on 10/6/21
Also, the property portfolio is co-owned by Cullors spouse..
They both work multiple jobs.
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sigh this again
“ People boo partly because they associate the taking of the knee with the BLM and because they don't want to be lectured by a bunch of millionaires when they have come purely to watch a football match.”
If you feel lectured that’s on you.
How much mo et you earn doesn’t validate or invalidate opinions on things like race.
I haven’t seen any footballers go particularly in depth, to the point of lecturing, on the subject. I’ve seen them say it’s got no place in the game and abuse needs to stop.
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Haha, everything thats wrong with some people on this thread summed up.
The OP asks why the boo's, I've given the reasons and then I'm condemned for it.
Don't let the fact that I wouldn't boo get in the way of your judgement of me.
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I was addressing the points raised in the comment, not you directly.
So, when I said ‘If you feel lectured......’ that was addressed to whomever does, ie the people that feel lectured by footballers asking to stop being racially abused.
The fact you took that personally is, again, down to you.
posted on 10/6/21
That’s because your argument for why they boo is based on their own ignorance and instead of saying we should look to change that, you’re suggesting the message should be changed to placate it.
Taking the knee is associated with BLM. There’s nothing wrong with saying that at all. It isn’t associated with individual factions within the BLM movement such as those with political ideologies. The players, the fa and kick it out have all now come out and reinforced that.
If you choose to still argue it
posted on 10/6/21
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 27 minutes ago
I see theres a doc on tv tonight about the toppling of the Colston statue.
It sounds like its being done from the Labour Bristol mayors perspective and of course its been made by the lefty bias BBC so for those who have no idea what causes the booing take a look and things might become clearer.
I don't want to hear that taking a knee has nothing to do with the BLM because if that was the case we wouldn't have the logo plastered all over the stadium and the tv coverage.
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Explained a lot of this to you two days ago.
completely ignored
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Who made you the boss of me?
I ignored you because I think you are wrong.
Lets watch the doc tonight and thrash things through tomorrow.
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Once again you insist with this ridiculously illogical position.
Players are taking the knee. There are Emirates logos on the stadium. Taking the knee must be about furthering Emirates goals.
That is literally the logic that you use and it is clear how absurd it is.
I saw a block leaning against a shop window earlier and there was an advert for bread I the window. That doesn't mean the bloke was supporting the baking profession.
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