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England n Czechs already in last 16.......

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posted on 21/6/21

48 teams in the 2026 World Cup. Gonna be one pretty crazy set of 3rd placed sides.

posted on 21/6/21

Linekar did announce that England have qualified.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 18 seconds ago
48 teams in the 2026 World Cup. Gonna be one pretty crazy set of 3rd placed sides.
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Just silly.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by RB&W - Always a Legacy (U21434)
posted 36 seconds ago
Linekar did announce that England have qualified.
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Fair enough. I must have missed it putting the kettle on.

posted on 21/6/21

Gareth will now probably rest players tomorrow.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 18 seconds ago
48 teams in the 2026 World Cup. Gonna be one pretty crazy set of 3rd placed sides.
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Just silly.
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Imagine the drama when third place in Group L is just enough for The Philippines, to the disappointment of Group T’s Nicaragua.

comment by Pun (U21588)

posted on 21/6/21

Just wait till the next world cup when the entire group qualifies to the round of 64.

comment by RJC (U17308)

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 18 seconds ago
48 teams in the 2026 World Cup. Gonna be one pretty crazy set of 3rd placed sides.
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Just silly.
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It's the other 150ish countries I feel sorry for. World Cup should mean World Cup!!

posted on 21/6/21

Skysports had it as breaking news in large writing

posted on 21/6/21

So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 38 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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Not sure but I think England want the win to stay at Wembley in the second round.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 27 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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I don't think finishing 3rd is likely. We have a better head to head than Croatia so if they beat Scotland we can't come lower than 2nd. And if Scotland beat Croatia there would have to be a unlikely goal difference swing to put us into 3rd.

2ndat worst looks almost sealed already.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 2 minutes ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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Good chance it would be the winner of Spain’s group. And then the winner of that game would face the winners between our group and Germany’s group. Most roads seem to lead to playing someone from that group.

posted on 21/6/21

Fair enough.

Don’t like the format anyway, takes a lot of edge away from the final group games in some groups now.

Through after scoring 1 goal in 2 games

posted on 21/6/21

England beat the Czechs 5-0 a couple of seasons ago at Wembley so I’d imagine the Czechs will be trying for damage control and sitting back. Tbf they might not even want to win the group and might take their foot off the pedal as they’re through anyway. England will be more desperate to stay at Wembley and get the win to get the media back onside.

comment by Pun (U21588)

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Robb - Legacy Fan and proud (U22311)
posted 2 minutes ago
England beat the Czechs 5-0 a couple of seasons ago at Wembley so I’d imagine the Czechs will be trying for damage control and sitting back. Tbf they might not even want to win the group and might take their foot off the pedal as they’re through anyway. England will be more desperate to stay at Wembley and get the win to get the media back onside.
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We also lost to them away. No doubt their manager will have a go at out-tacticing (?) Southgate again.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 27 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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I don't think finishing 3rd is likely. We have a better head to head than Croatia so if they beat Scotland we can't come lower than 2nd. And if Scotland beat Croatia there would have to be a unlikely goal difference swing to put us into 3rd.

2ndat worst looks almost sealed already.
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Doesn’t head to head only come into it if goal difference is the same, otherwise Russia would be over Finland.

posted on 21/6/21

England vs Germany or England Vs Spain are the two most likely outcomes now although there are other ones too.

Not easy either way. I think I'd fancy Spain more than Germany. However it's nice being able to watch the games with no anxiety and pressure. Even though I'm English I don't get anywhere near as emotionally attached as I do with Utd and never have done. If they lose I am over it within 5 mins. When Utd lose it can take days or more before I am over it.

posted on 21/6/21

comment by steross17 (U6898)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 27 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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I don't think finishing 3rd is likely. We have a better head to head than Croatia so if they beat Scotland we can't come lower than 2nd. And if Scotland beat Croatia there would have to be a unlikely goal difference swing to put us into 3rd.

2ndat worst looks almost sealed already.
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Doesn’t head to head only come into it if goal difference is the same, otherwise Russia would be over Finland.
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Holland had won the group before a ball was kicked in MD3 despite second place having 3pts. I think head to head does come into it but maybe not one when there are 3 teams on same points as in Russia's case.

It's all rather confusing though.

posted on 21/6/21

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posted on 21/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by steross17 (U6898)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 27 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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I don't think finishing 3rd is likely. We have a better head to head than Croatia so if they beat Scotland we can't come lower than 2nd. And if Scotland beat Croatia there would have to be a unlikely goal difference swing to put us into 3rd.

2ndat worst looks almost sealed already.
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Doesn’t head to head only come into it if goal difference is the same, otherwise Russia would be over Finland.
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Holland had won the group before a ball was kicked in MD3 despite second place having 3pts. I think head to head does come into it but maybe not one when there are 3 teams on same points as in Russia's case.

It's all rather confusing though.
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I think you are correct, Croatia can’t go above England but Scotland still could depending on goal difference.

posted on 21/6/21

Here’s the group-stage tiebreaker procedure, as explained by UEFA. Teams get three points for a win and one point for a draw, and the team with the most points wins the group. If two or more teams are tied in points at the end of group play, ties are broken via the following:

Greatest number of points accrued in the matches between the tied teams.
Goal difference in the matches played between the tied teams.
Goals scored in the matches played between the tied teams.
If those tiebreakers fail to break all the deadlocks, they are applied only to the teams that remain tied. If that does not break the tie, the following are applied:

Goal difference in all group matches.
Goals scored in all group matches.
Wins in all group matches.
Lower quantity of disciplinary points. Players are given three points for a red card (either directly or as a result of receiving two yellow cards in one match) and one point for a yellow card.
Position in the European qualifier rankings.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 22/6/21

comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
comment by Michael. (U1170)
posted 27 seconds ago
So we can give game time to those needing minutes perhaps Maguire and Henderson?

Who do we face if we come third?
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I don't think finishing 3rd is likely. We have a better head to head than Croatia so if they beat Scotland we can't come lower than 2nd. And if Scotland beat Croatia there would have to be a unlikely goal difference swing to put us into 3rd.

2ndat worst looks almost sealed already.
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If Scotland win 2-0 and we lose 1-0 then they would be second on goals scored I think.

posted on 22/6/21

Head to head is first tiebreaker, then GD

posted on 22/6/21

At what point do they arm wrestle?

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