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‘Code Red for Humanity’

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posted on 9/8/21

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 32 minutes ago
They need to get a grip on overpopulation for a start. Populations in Africa and Asia have surged in recent years. They reckon there will be 11bn people on the planet by 2100. Unsustainable.

The top 20 fastest accelerating populations are all in Africa and Asia, as are the countries doing the least to protect the environment.

Fastest growing populations:

Niger
São Tomé and Príncipe
Angola
DR Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Burundi
Zambia
Syrian Arab Republic
Chad
Burkina Faso
Mali
Tanzania
Somalia
The Gambia
Uganda
Mozambique
Gabon
South Sudan
Comoros
Guinea

We can all make changes is our daily lives and pressure governments as well, but what’s the point of it all if the species continue to breed like rabbits? Sh*gging ourselves into extinction.


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And despite this they are still all shat at footy

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 9 minutes ago
They need to get a grip on overpopulation for a start. Populations in Africa and Asia have surged in recent years. They reckon there will be 11bn people on the planet by 2100. Unsustainable.

The top 20 fastest accelerating populations are all in Africa and Asia, as are the countries doing the least to protect the environment.

Fastest growing populations:

Niger
São Tomé and Príncipe
Angola
DR Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Burundi
Zambia
Syrian Arab Republic
Chad
Burkina Faso
Mali
Tanzania
Somalia
The Gambia
Uganda
Mozambique
Gabon
South Sudan
Comoros
Guinea

We can all make changes is our daily lives and pressure governments as well, but what’s the point of it all if the species continue to breed like rabbits? Sh*gging ourselves into extinction.

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And yet it's the stable populations of Europe and North America that drive the bulk of carbon emissions. It's the consumption patterns of our lifestyle that is unsustainable. African population growth becomes a problem if it's followed by the emergence of a growing middle class that behaves like we do.

It's important to acknowledge this for two reasons. First, we need to adapt our behaviour to limit the temperature increases - and we can do so without living in poverty if we invest in low carbon technologies and transition to more sustainable, more localised supply chains and renewable power. Then when middle classes emerge in the global south, they can emulate us, rather than be asked to do what we refused to.

Secondly, there is an emerging eco-fascism ideology that wants to repeat the worst genocidal atrocities of the 20th century, only now based on the survival logic of 'there are too many of us' rather than racial theories.
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This. It hurts my head that people still trot out the "overpopulation is the problem" line.

posted on 9/8/21

First thing people can do to help is not have fecking children.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 32 minutes ago
They need to get a grip on overpopulation for a start. Populations in Africa and Asia have surged in recent years. They reckon there will be 11bn people on the planet by 2100. Unsustainable.

The top 20 fastest accelerating populations are all in Africa and Asia, as are the countries doing the least to protect the environment.

Fastest growing populations:

Niger
São Tomé and Príncipe
Angola
DR Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Burundi
Zambia
Syrian Arab Republic
Chad
Burkina Faso
Mali
Tanzania
Somalia
The Gambia
Uganda
Mozambique
Gabon
South Sudan
Comoros
Guinea

We can all make changes is our daily lives and pressure governments as well, but what’s the point of it all if the species continue to breed like rabbits? Sh*gging ourselves into extinction.


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And despite this they are still all shat at footy
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Football is still limited to just 11 players on the field at a time. Canny just be putting a few million players on the pitch just cos you have a big population. Doesn't work like that.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 17 minutes ago
There are 20 companies who contribute to 35% of the worlds carbon emissions, 12 of them are state owned and contribute 20%.

Recycling, and cutting down on red meat, or whatever is a drop in the ocean if the likes of Gazprom, Chevron, BP etc continue to operate the way they are.

There are people who know a lot more about climate change than I do who already believe it’s too late to make any meaningful change, including Sir David Attenborough.

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This 'too late to do anything' narrative needs to stop. It's not too late, and if you go around saying that everyone will think there's no point trying. It's expensive and complicated but it's not like faster than light travel.. the technology exists to reverse the process. There just needs to be enough awareness that people start demanding their governments and favourite brands adopt it.

Capitalism and democracy has got us into this, it can get us out. We've just got to hold our nerve
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It's also factually untrue that Attenborough says it's too late to do anything (for what it's worth). Here he is in June of this year urging action:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sir-david-attenborough-60-minutes-2021-06-06/

posted on 9/8/21

In the developed world the carbon footprint of a child is roughly 58.6 metric tonnes annually, whereas that of a Malawian child has consistently been estimated between 0.07 and metric tonnes annually.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 9/8/21

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 36 minutes ago
They need to get a grip on overpopulation for a start. Populations in Africa and Asia have surged in recent years. They reckon there will be 11bn people on the planet by 2100. Unsustainable.

The top 20 fastest accelerating populations are all in Africa and Asia, as are the countries doing the least to protect the environment.

Fastest growing populations:

Niger
São Tomé and Príncipe
Angola
DR Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Burundi
Zambia
Syrian Arab Republic
Chad
Burkina Faso
Mali
Tanzania
Somalia
The Gambia
Uganda
Mozambique
Gabon
South Sudan
Comoros
Guinea

We can all make changes is our daily lives and pressure governments as well, but what’s the point of it all if the species continue to breed like rabbits? Sh*gging ourselves into extinction.


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There's definitely a few swear words in that list

posted on 9/8/21

Research has shown that having one less child is a more effective way of cutting down a person's carbon footprint than recycling, driving an electric car, being vegetarian, or using renewable energy

posted on 9/8/21

"Who ordered the feckin Code Red?"

posted on 9/8/21

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 9 minutes ago
They need to get a grip on overpopulation for a start. Populations in Africa and Asia have surged in recent years. They reckon there will be 11bn people on the planet by 2100. Unsustainable.

The top 20 fastest accelerating populations are all in Africa and Asia, as are the countries doing the least to protect the environment.

Fastest growing populations:

Niger
São Tomé and Príncipe
Angola
DR Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Burundi
Zambia
Syrian Arab Republic
Chad
Burkina Faso
Mali
Tanzania
Somalia
The Gambia
Uganda
Mozambique
Gabon
South Sudan
Comoros
Guinea

We can all make changes is our daily lives and pressure governments as well, but what’s the point of it all if the species continue to breed like rabbits? Sh*gging ourselves into extinction.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

And yet it's the stable populations of Europe and North America that drive the bulk of carbon emissions. It's the consumption patterns of our lifestyle that is unsustainable. African population growth becomes a problem if it's followed by the emergence of a growing middle class that behaves like we do.

It's important to acknowledge this for two reasons. First, we need to adapt our behaviour to limit the temperature increases - and we can do so without living in poverty if we invest in low carbon technologies and transition to more sustainable, more localised supply chains and renewable power. Then when middle classes emerge in the global south, they can emulate us, rather than be asked to do what we refused to.

Secondly, there is an emerging eco-fascism ideology that wants to repeat the worst genocidal atrocities of the 20th century, only now based on the survival logic of 'there are too many of us' rather than racial theories.
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This. It hurts my head that people still trot out the "overpopulation is the problem" line.
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It's incredibly dangerous, both in terms of fuelling complacency about the carbon emissions WE

posted on 9/8/21

'Wish Africans would stop facking all day, ruining the environment'. 'Giles, Jessica, Farnsworth, Penelope, the school bus is here, c'mon'

posted on 9/8/21

comment by RidiCuler (U22512)
posted 1 minute ago
"Who ordered the feckin Code Red?"
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You want the truth?

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 9/8/21

comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 32 minutes ago
There are 20 companies who contribute to 35% of the worlds carbon emissions, 12 of them are state owned and contribute 20%.

Recycling, and cutting down on red meat, or whatever is a drop in the ocean if the likes of Gazprom, Chevron, BP etc continue to operate the way they are.

There are people who know a lot more about climate change than I do who already believe it’s too late to make any meaningful change, including Sir David Attenborough.


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Put it in context.

Sir David Attenborough said: "There is no going back - no matter what we do now, it's too late to avoid climate change and the poorest, the most vulnerable, those with the least security, are now certain to suffer."

He continued: “If we bring emissions down with sufficient vigour we may yet avoid the tipping points that will make runaway climate change unstoppable. In November this year, at COP26 in Glasgow, we may have out last opportunity to make the necessary step-change.”

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Research has shown that having one less child is a more effective way of cutting down a person's carbon footprint than recycling, driving an electric car, being vegetarian, or using renewable energy
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But it also reduces your monthly benefits and chances of a council house so it’s a fine line when you look at it from both sides

posted on 9/8/21

Oops...

It's incredibly dangerous, both in terms of fuelling complacency about the carbon emissions WE are driving, and because there's a perfectly rational line of logic that goes straight from " the earth is dying because there are too many people in Africa (and now they are coming here!) " to " the only means of survival is to wipe out millions of Africans "

I can't vouch for the exact accuracy of this graphic, but it's at least an approximate representation of the parts of the world and their carbon footprint: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xg9BUPLoTJs/UuguxeAunsI/AAAAAAAACFQ/VtMd3SK7eqo/s1600/CarbonEmissionMap_2009.jpg

...Some people in the global south might argue there are too many of us. Personally, I'd prefer to make reasonable adjustments to our economy rather than volunteer for depopulation or wait for the planet to sort that out.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Jed Maxwell (U1449)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 1 minute ago
Research has shown that having one less child is a more effective way of cutting down a person's carbon footprint than recycling, driving an electric car, being vegetarian, or using renewable energy
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But it also reduces your monthly benefits and chances of a council house so it’s a fine line when you look at it from both sides
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True. Can't believe anyone would have kids anyway, bringing poor little feckers into what is a doomed world.

posted on 9/8/21

In political terms the left and the right can work together. Vegans and racists unite behind the cause. The combination of eating vegetables and sinking dinghies in the channel would actually solve climate change.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Fred The Red (U22224)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bryãn's left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 17 minutes ago
There are 20 companies who contribute to 35% of the worlds carbon emissions, 12 of them are state owned and contribute 20%.

Recycling, and cutting down on red meat, or whatever is a drop in the ocean if the likes of Gazprom, Chevron, BP etc continue to operate the way they are.

There are people who know a lot more about climate change than I do who already believe it’s too late to make any meaningful change, including Sir David Attenborough.

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This 'too late to do anything' narrative needs to stop. It's not too late, and if you go around saying that everyone will think there's no point trying. It's expensive and complicated but it's not like faster than light travel.. the technology exists to reverse the process. There just needs to be enough awareness that people start demanding their governments and favourite brands adopt it.

Capitalism and democracy has got us into this, it can get us out. We've just got to hold our nerve
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Stop waiting for governments to do something? And ask yourself what are you prepared to give up?
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It's the wrong question. What are you prepared to suffer?

At this rate large swathes of the world will become uninhabitable within our lifetimes. We're looking at millions of climate refugees, many of them from rich countries that can afford to tackle carbon in the atmosphere.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RidiCuler (U22512)
posted 1 minute ago
"Who ordered the feckin Code Red?"
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You want the truth?
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posted on 9/8/21

comment by RidiCuler (U22512)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by RidiCuler (U22512)
posted 1 minute ago
"Who ordered the feckin Code Red?"
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You want the truth?
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YOU CA..........nah sorry mate, you wouldn't understand yeah, so don't worry about it.

posted on 9/8/21

Comment deleted by Site Moderator

posted on 9/8/21

comment by One Love - Admin 3 (U1250)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by BruceAndPally (U8201)
posted 32 minutes ago
There are 20 companies who contribute to 35% of the worlds carbon emissions, 12 of them are state owned and contribute 20%.

Recycling, and cutting down on red meat, or whatever is a drop in the ocean if the likes of Gazprom, Chevron, BP etc continue to operate the way they are.

There are people who know a lot more about climate change than I do who already believe it’s too late to make any meaningful change, including Sir David Attenborough.


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Put it in context.

Sir David Attenborough said: "There is no going back - no matter what we do now, it's too late to avoid climate change and the poorest, the most vulnerable, those with the least security, are now certain to suffer."

He continued: “If we bring emissions down with sufficient vigour we may yet avoid the tipping points that will make runaway climate change unstoppable. In November this year, at COP26 in Glasgow, we may have out last opportunity to make the necessary step-change.”
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Right, but those gas, oil and coal companies aren’t going to bring down their emissions with sufficient vigour and they’re the ones contributing heavily to global pollution and the adverse climate changes.

posted on 9/8/21

How many on this thread have children I wonder? Each one is worse for the environment yearly than the equivalent in doing all the basic recycling and conservation efforts.

posted on 9/8/21

comment by Cinciwolf----Wolves poster of the millennium (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
How many on this thread have children I wonder? Each one is worse for the environment yearly than the equivalent in doing all the basic recycling and conservation efforts.
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If no one had children what would be the point of recycling etc?

posted on 9/8/21

If everyone stopped having kids what would be the point of saving the planet!?

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