Of course, but there’s plenty of clubs with money that can do the same and aren’t well run. Manchester United and Arsenal being the most obvious. You can acknowledge that a club is well run, without having to respect them. Well run isn’t something people associate with them, when they should, because all they ever do is just scream ‘money’. It’s like you can only be well run if you are poor.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Wouldn't say Everton are exactly going for those top quality players though that City were/are. I mean the richer you are, generally the better the calibre of player you'll be able to attract.
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They were going for the same level of player we were in the first proper build, they made more errors than we did though and didn’t have anywhere near the safety net we did of being able to spend more at times if it didn’t work out, which is where Newcastle will also find it hard.
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Well that's the thing isn't it, Everton haven't been able to keep spending in the same way City did when they were getting the ship sailing after the takeover. The climate has since changed a little bit.
No, but then even given that they still didn’t spend as wisely when they could. You look at the prices paid for the three you mention when we got them and compare it to the market as a whole, Everton’s comparable signings weren’t anywhere near.
Everton’s return on investment has been awful.
They haven't spent wisely of course but perhaps it's a little generous to Everton to say they could have afforded or attracted the quality of those 3. They've spent similar but the market value has been inflated since and those 3 would be a lot more now than they were back then. Those were all proven quality players in their peaks as well. Take Rodriguez for example, who seemed like a big signing for Everton at the time mainly through his name, but not exactly a player at his peak.
Obviously they aren't doing themselves favours getting players who weren't good enough for bigger clubs i.e. Walcott or Iwobi. I guess you could say that's kind of the difference between themselves and City when they were first doing it. City were getting players from the bigger clubs who were doing well.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 33 minutes ago
Of course, but there’s plenty of clubs with money that can do the same and aren’t well run. Manchester United and Arsenal being the most obvious. You can acknowledge that a club is well run, without having to respect them. Well run isn’t something people associate with them, when they should, because all they ever do is just scream ‘money’. It’s like you can only be well run if you are poor.
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You can't underestimate the job Pep is doing for City I suppose, who is constantly maintaining success at the club. Without him it could look a lot more inconsistent for them as it did before he came, and their signings perhaps more hit and miss than they are.
When you have someone like Pep managing you it makes it look like you're well run because he pretty much guarantees success, in a way other managers like Ole don't. But at least you are better off than Arsenal right now. You're still spending on big players and getting top 4 finishes. Who knows, it could still be a successful season for you.
Don’t think it was at the time, I think you’re overrating where they were at at the time we bought them. We’ve bought players even since then that had similar reputations that didn’t work out. The other reason it worked though is we got the spine right.
But he went there because they are well run. I’ve no doubts he wouldn’t have fancied United and Chelsea because they just don’t offer the same job stability. Pep clearly elevates them to a higher level, but the foundations are there and they’ve got a lot of people behind the scenes that are good at running a football club.
You only have to look at the recruitment. It’s only now with Grealish have the gone massive on any one signing. And they don’t have many failures.
Watch when Pep leaves, City will still be the dominant team in England because their success isn’t contingent on Pep alone.
Liverpool will struggle when Klopp goes, and Chelsea will potentially be up and down like they’ve often been the last decade. We don’t matter because we aren’t successful.
I think there was an expectancy around City that they were going to go up a level when they started signing those sorts of players, especially Aguero and Toure. One was the young star player at Atletico who was quite sought after I seem to remember, and the other was an experienced winner who was a quality player in a treble winning Barcelona side.
City had sort of gone with the domestic level players from fellow PL teams but when they started bringing in these coveted foreign players from abroad it was like the missing piece of the jigsaw to raise them up a notch. They were already on the ascent at that stage so it was only natural to think they'd help them go further.
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
But he went there because they are well run. I’ve no doubts he wouldn’t have fancied United and Chelsea because they just don’t offer the same job stability. Pep clearly elevates them to a higher level, but the foundations are there and they’ve got a lot of people behind the scenes that are good at running a football club.
You only have to look at the recruitment. It’s only now with Grealish have the gone massive on any one signing. And they don’t have many failures.
Watch when Pep leaves, City will still be the dominant team in England because their success isn’t contingent on Pep alone.
Liverpool will struggle when Klopp goes, and Chelsea will potentially be up and down like they’ve often been the last decade. We don’t matter because we aren’t successful.
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City will still win stuff I'm sure after Pep leaves but we can't be naive to think they won't have their own struggles. They were in danger of dropping out of the top 4 before Pep came. Remember Chelsea finished 10th the ones season. Even big teams in such a competitive league will have their transitional periods and suffer, at least for a bit.
I think the fact City had an awful lot of money also played a part in attracting Pep.
But United and Chelsea do as well. The differential is the working relationship he had with the people at City, there’s clarity around how City operate that doesn’t exist at the other clubs.
The fact you need to point to almost dropping out of the top four once as an example of their struggles sums it up. They are just better run than everyone else, so don’t suffer those drop offs when things don’t go well.
City’s ‘struggles’ will be not being able to replicate one of the most dominant periods in English football. But they’ll still be the most consistent team in English football because they make the best decisions.
City, like Chelsea have used their wealth to establish themselves as contenders year in year out.
Chelsea sure may have disastrous seasons but they're sporadic, and, they've shown it just takes a good coach and they can win major trophies.
before Pep City were the same, after Pep maybe they'll go back to the same.
Liverpool have really only seen the sunshine in the PL under Klopp and given the finances dont seem that great they may end up drifting away a bit back to where they were before Klopp as also rans. especially if Newcastles investment is strategically solid.
United will be United, for good or bad.
I can’t wait to hear what ‘sponsorship’ deals emerge so that Newcastle can spend the same amount of money City got away with using the same dodgy deals.
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Yep...bye bye utd
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that's a very interesting take.
despite throwing money away year after year, inept back office and frankly poor strategy the machine that is Manchester United keeps going.
now you guys on the other hand, riding the wave of one mans success with a team stronger than the sum of its parts, yet as this summer showed, not exactly flush.
if Newcastle are gonna take a few years to catch up, Klopp has probably gone, id say you and arsenal would be most at risk medium term without a change in your ownerships respectively.
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Machine
You make it sound like you win trophies or something.
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Yep...bye bye utd
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that's a very interesting take.
despite throwing money away year after year, inept back office and frankly poor strategy the machine that is Manchester United keeps going.
now you guys on the other hand, riding the wave of one mans success with a team stronger than the sum of its parts, yet as this summer showed, not exactly flush.
if Newcastle are gonna take a few years to catch up, Klopp has probably gone, id say you and arsenal would be most at risk medium term without a change in your ownerships respectively.
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You make it sound like you win trophies or something.
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For someone with Dr in his name you aren’t that bright are you.
I am clearly referencing the clubs ability to earn money and compete for the best players.
Liverpool have worked wonders with Klopp but what happens when he goes? Your club can’t, and has shown that of late, compete for the best.
So you are left hoping for another manager capable of making a side better than the sum of its parts. It took 30 years to find Klopp.
Hence my comment to GB that objectively I don’t think United need to worry about Newcastle joining the big table, it’s more likely a club unable to spend amongst their peers solely reliant on their manager that should be more concerned
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 54 minutes ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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Rules are there to be exploited and Broken.
First Newcastle will sound out players who are not top 4 material but are better than what they have - Zaha, Dele, Richarlison, Lanzini, Neves, etc. Stabilise in the top half with these sort of players for a season or so and then they will start going for the next level that can get them into Europe and the 4 seasons or so from now they will be competing with the worlds best for the worlds best.
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posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
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There are some fantastic places just outside of Newcastle. I mean it’s not as if Spurs players live in Tottenham, most reside in very nice parts of Hertfordshire and travel in.
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 32 seconds ago
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
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They are competitive especially with other Arab states, they aren’t going to settle on Newcastle being second best, that’s not how they operate
the thing with Newcastle is its actually attractive for a project
one club city
huge fan base, which they will be able to fill an already large stadium each week with.
no doubt a little success they could extend it and compete with anyone in England on attendance
they aren't trying to turn the small club in Manchester or one of several London clubs into something important
a stadium sponsorship here, shirt sponsorship there, they'll be on their way.
the fundamentals of Newcastle are arguably more sound than either Chelsea or City were when they struck oil
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 32 seconds ago
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
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They are competitive especially with other Arab states, they aren’t going to settle on Newcastle being second best, that’s not how they operate
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That's true, but it's about how and where you spend your money and what on, it depends what they deem as successful.
Everyone moaned about Mike Ashley, but he made and sustained Newcastle as a profitable organisation, that's successful for any business owner.
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
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There are some fantastic places just outside of Newcastle. I mean it’s not as if Spurs players live in Tottenham, most reside in very nice parts of Hertfordshire and travel in.
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there are loads of places that are posh all over but the sun doesn't shine any more over the posh places and the wind doesn't blow any less.
Same for us here.
Its not london and its not the sea front in barcelona
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posted on 7/10/21
Of course, but there’s plenty of clubs with money that can do the same and aren’t well run. Manchester United and Arsenal being the most obvious. You can acknowledge that a club is well run, without having to respect them. Well run isn’t something people associate with them, when they should, because all they ever do is just scream ‘money’. It’s like you can only be well run if you are poor.
posted on 7/10/21
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Wouldn't say Everton are exactly going for those top quality players though that City were/are. I mean the richer you are, generally the better the calibre of player you'll be able to attract.
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They were going for the same level of player we were in the first proper build, they made more errors than we did though and didn’t have anywhere near the safety net we did of being able to spend more at times if it didn’t work out, which is where Newcastle will also find it hard.
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Well that's the thing isn't it, Everton haven't been able to keep spending in the same way City did when they were getting the ship sailing after the takeover. The climate has since changed a little bit.
posted on 7/10/21
No, but then even given that they still didn’t spend as wisely when they could. You look at the prices paid for the three you mention when we got them and compare it to the market as a whole, Everton’s comparable signings weren’t anywhere near.
posted on 8/10/21
Everton’s return on investment has been awful.
posted on 8/10/21
They haven't spent wisely of course but perhaps it's a little generous to Everton to say they could have afforded or attracted the quality of those 3. They've spent similar but the market value has been inflated since and those 3 would be a lot more now than they were back then. Those were all proven quality players in their peaks as well. Take Rodriguez for example, who seemed like a big signing for Everton at the time mainly through his name, but not exactly a player at his peak.
Obviously they aren't doing themselves favours getting players who weren't good enough for bigger clubs i.e. Walcott or Iwobi. I guess you could say that's kind of the difference between themselves and City when they were first doing it. City were getting players from the bigger clubs who were doing well.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 33 minutes ago
Of course, but there’s plenty of clubs with money that can do the same and aren’t well run. Manchester United and Arsenal being the most obvious. You can acknowledge that a club is well run, without having to respect them. Well run isn’t something people associate with them, when they should, because all they ever do is just scream ‘money’. It’s like you can only be well run if you are poor.
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You can't underestimate the job Pep is doing for City I suppose, who is constantly maintaining success at the club. Without him it could look a lot more inconsistent for them as it did before he came, and their signings perhaps more hit and miss than they are.
When you have someone like Pep managing you it makes it look like you're well run because he pretty much guarantees success, in a way other managers like Ole don't. But at least you are better off than Arsenal right now. You're still spending on big players and getting top 4 finishes. Who knows, it could still be a successful season for you.
posted on 8/10/21
Don’t think it was at the time, I think you’re overrating where they were at at the time we bought them. We’ve bought players even since then that had similar reputations that didn’t work out. The other reason it worked though is we got the spine right.
posted on 8/10/21
But he went there because they are well run. I’ve no doubts he wouldn’t have fancied United and Chelsea because they just don’t offer the same job stability. Pep clearly elevates them to a higher level, but the foundations are there and they’ve got a lot of people behind the scenes that are good at running a football club.
You only have to look at the recruitment. It’s only now with Grealish have the gone massive on any one signing. And they don’t have many failures.
Watch when Pep leaves, City will still be the dominant team in England because their success isn’t contingent on Pep alone.
Liverpool will struggle when Klopp goes, and Chelsea will potentially be up and down like they’ve often been the last decade. We don’t matter because we aren’t successful.
posted on 8/10/21
I think there was an expectancy around City that they were going to go up a level when they started signing those sorts of players, especially Aguero and Toure. One was the young star player at Atletico who was quite sought after I seem to remember, and the other was an experienced winner who was a quality player in a treble winning Barcelona side.
City had sort of gone with the domestic level players from fellow PL teams but when they started bringing in these coveted foreign players from abroad it was like the missing piece of the jigsaw to raise them up a notch. They were already on the ascent at that stage so it was only natural to think they'd help them go further.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
But he went there because they are well run. I’ve no doubts he wouldn’t have fancied United and Chelsea because they just don’t offer the same job stability. Pep clearly elevates them to a higher level, but the foundations are there and they’ve got a lot of people behind the scenes that are good at running a football club.
You only have to look at the recruitment. It’s only now with Grealish have the gone massive on any one signing. And they don’t have many failures.
Watch when Pep leaves, City will still be the dominant team in England because their success isn’t contingent on Pep alone.
Liverpool will struggle when Klopp goes, and Chelsea will potentially be up and down like they’ve often been the last decade. We don’t matter because we aren’t successful.
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City will still win stuff I'm sure after Pep leaves but we can't be naive to think they won't have their own struggles. They were in danger of dropping out of the top 4 before Pep came. Remember Chelsea finished 10th the ones season. Even big teams in such a competitive league will have their transitional periods and suffer, at least for a bit.
I think the fact City had an awful lot of money also played a part in attracting Pep.
posted on 8/10/21
But United and Chelsea do as well. The differential is the working relationship he had with the people at City, there’s clarity around how City operate that doesn’t exist at the other clubs.
The fact you need to point to almost dropping out of the top four once as an example of their struggles sums it up. They are just better run than everyone else, so don’t suffer those drop offs when things don’t go well.
City’s ‘struggles’ will be not being able to replicate one of the most dominant periods in English football. But they’ll still be the most consistent team in English football because they make the best decisions.
posted on 8/10/21
City, like Chelsea have used their wealth to establish themselves as contenders year in year out.
Chelsea sure may have disastrous seasons but they're sporadic, and, they've shown it just takes a good coach and they can win major trophies.
before Pep City were the same, after Pep maybe they'll go back to the same.
Liverpool have really only seen the sunshine in the PL under Klopp and given the finances dont seem that great they may end up drifting away a bit back to where they were before Klopp as also rans. especially if Newcastles investment is strategically solid.
United will be United, for good or bad.
posted on 8/10/21
I can’t wait to hear what ‘sponsorship’ deals emerge so that Newcastle can spend the same amount of money City got away with using the same dodgy deals.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Yep...bye bye utd
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that's a very interesting take.
despite throwing money away year after year, inept back office and frankly poor strategy the machine that is Manchester United keeps going.
now you guys on the other hand, riding the wave of one mans success with a team stronger than the sum of its parts, yet as this summer showed, not exactly flush.
if Newcastle are gonna take a few years to catch up, Klopp has probably gone, id say you and arsenal would be most at risk medium term without a change in your ownerships respectively.
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You make it sound like you win trophies or something.
posted on 8/10/21
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
posted on 8/10/21
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by Dwight K Schrute (U22590)
posted 9 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Got_Better (U6241)
posted 13 minutes ago
Yep...bye bye utd
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that's a very interesting take.
despite throwing money away year after year, inept back office and frankly poor strategy the machine that is Manchester United keeps going.
now you guys on the other hand, riding the wave of one mans success with a team stronger than the sum of its parts, yet as this summer showed, not exactly flush.
if Newcastle are gonna take a few years to catch up, Klopp has probably gone, id say you and arsenal would be most at risk medium term without a change in your ownerships respectively.
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Machine
You make it sound like you win trophies or something.
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For someone with Dr in his name you aren’t that bright are you.
I am clearly referencing the clubs ability to earn money and compete for the best players.
Liverpool have worked wonders with Klopp but what happens when he goes? Your club can’t, and has shown that of late, compete for the best.
So you are left hoping for another manager capable of making a side better than the sum of its parts. It took 30 years to find Klopp.
Hence my comment to GB that objectively I don’t think United need to worry about Newcastle joining the big table, it’s more likely a club unable to spend amongst their peers solely reliant on their manager that should be more concerned
posted on 8/10/21
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 54 minutes ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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Rules are there to be exploited and Broken.
First Newcastle will sound out players who are not top 4 material but are better than what they have - Zaha, Dele, Richarlison, Lanzini, Neves, etc. Stabilise in the top half with these sort of players for a season or so and then they will start going for the next level that can get them into Europe and the 4 seasons or so from now they will be competing with the worlds best for the worlds best.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
posted on 8/10/21
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
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There are some fantastic places just outside of Newcastle. I mean it’s not as if Spurs players live in Tottenham, most reside in very nice parts of Hertfordshire and travel in.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 32 seconds ago
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
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They are competitive especially with other Arab states, they aren’t going to settle on Newcastle being second best, that’s not how they operate
posted on 8/10/21
the thing with Newcastle is its actually attractive for a project
one club city
huge fan base, which they will be able to fill an already large stadium each week with.
no doubt a little success they could extend it and compete with anyone in England on attendance
they aren't trying to turn the small club in Manchester or one of several London clubs into something important
a stadium sponsorship here, shirt sponsorship there, they'll be on their way.
the fundamentals of Newcastle are arguably more sound than either Chelsea or City were when they struck oil
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 32 seconds ago
A lot of things are not right with these owners, they obviously have the wealth that can be invested but I'm not convinced if it will be invested in the right areas or for the right players for the club. At least Mansour at City had the idea to create the global brand which he has done, who knows what the Saudi's will do with Newcastle.
They won't be straight into the CL, that just won't happen, but within the next 5 years if they can spend their money correctly then they will be there or thereabouts.
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They are competitive especially with other Arab states, they aren’t going to settle on Newcastle being second best, that’s not how they operate
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That's true, but it's about how and where you spend your money and what on, it depends what they deem as successful.
Everyone moaned about Mike Ashley, but he made and sustained Newcastle as a profitable organisation, that's successful for any business owner.
posted on 8/10/21
comment by Striketeam7 - Levy out (U18109)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mighty Tottenham Hotspur. (U7858)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 34 seconds ago
first we should look at FFP and someone said to me look at everton. Cant afford (this year) to spend a penny. they showed some ambitiotn, wasted a lot of money and ended up where? no where. now they need to pause and go again. have appointed top managers, made no real difference.
2. Man city. there can't be a new man city. why? ffp. they started before it and spent and wasted money. plus they have been put in court and dodged ffp violations. Peopel can't pay under the table nor magic up fake revenues all that easily.
3. city took 4 years to get to CL. I think it was that long until their "rich" owners be they the current ones of the thai PM actually got there.
4. Newcastle as it stands probably do not possess one player or coach capable. saint-Maximin might be closest but he's no way the complete article for top 4 club. So that 500mil right now.
5. just who do people think newcastle can afford (unlimited fund)s over these mega rich chelsea, city, psg etc clubs who have basically hoover dup anyone with a name already? Haaland?
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6. Who the f*** wants to live in Newcastle 😂😂😂
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could say the same out manchester
wads of cash seems to cure this issue for a while at least.
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There are some fantastic places just outside of Newcastle. I mean it’s not as if Spurs players live in Tottenham, most reside in very nice parts of Hertfordshire and travel in.
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there are loads of places that are posh all over but the sun doesn't shine any more over the posh places and the wind doesn't blow any less.
Same for us here.
Its not london and its not the sea front in barcelona
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