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posted on 26/10/21

Has religion made you a better person ?

Don’t need religion to be a better person, just be a decent human and respect others round you.

Is believe in God but no religion a good thing ?

Aye

Does religion make the world a better place?

No

posted on 26/10/21

Reguilon

posted on 26/10/21

I'm an atheist and I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to mock a belief system. I'd never mock them for being religious though. That's their choice.

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 31 seconds ago
Has religion made you a better person ?

Don’t need religion to be a better person, just be a decent human and respect others round you.

Is believe in God but no religion a good thing ?

Aye

Does religion make the world a better place?

No
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Religions are basically collective expressions of various human attempts to understand their place in the universe and how to lead a good life. They are a product of the human condition and wouldn't exist if we didn't find them helpful in some way. Many people have moved away from literal belief in religious myths and hopefully as a species we're starting to learn the limitations and dangers of believing in the word of god a single source of truth. However, there's plenty of hysterical binary thinking in the secular realm (think of the world of conspiracy theories) that remind us that it's a psychological impulse that feeds into religions, not that religions force us to think in a certain way. Meanwhile, within the religious cultures and myths and art of the world there are beautiful ideas and artefacts that I would feel much poorer without.

posted on 26/10/21

Abstract things like God work for some reason. Just like money - money is really just a promise by the government to pay. The whole world is operated by money.

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 31 seconds ago
Has religion made you a better person ?

Don’t need religion to be a better person, just be a decent human and respect others round you.

Is believe in God but no religion a good thing ?

Aye

Does religion make the world a better place?

No
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Religions are basically collective expressions of various human attempts to understand their place in the universe and how to lead a good life. They are a product of the human condition and wouldn't exist if we didn't find them helpful in some way. Many people have moved away from literal belief in religious myths and hopefully as a species we're starting to learn the limitations and dangers of believing in the word of god a single source of truth. However, there's plenty of hysterical binary thinking in the secular realm (think of the world of conspiracy theories) that remind us that it's a psychological impulse that feeds into religions, not that religions force us to think in a certain way. Meanwhile, within the religious cultures and myths and art of the world there are beautiful ideas and artefacts that I would feel much poorer without.
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PS I don't believe in god.

posted on 26/10/21

Has religion made you a better person ?
No.

Is believe in God but no religion a good thing ?
Eh?

Does religion make the world a better place?
No.

Should it be taught at school?
Maybe briefly, in equal measures covering all religions.

And many other questions.
Okay.

I know nobody has the answer, but plenty have faith.
I have given the answers above.

And remember, keep abuse and mockery off the thread.
Unlikely.

posted on 26/10/21

Had religion foisted upon me from a very early age.

Not a bad way to live your life really, plus our law is based upon it, but... it's a fvcking nonsense really isn't it.

Real sky fairy stuff.

Kind of a bit envious of the strength and comfort it can give some though, so fair play to them.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/10/21

Over to you,- atheist
Has religion made you a better person ? -The values, yes,to the jumbo jumbo and hypocrisy, no.
Is believe in God but no religion a good thing ? - Is that a thing?
Does religion make the world a better place? - On balance, no.
Should it be taught at school? - In principle, yes but in a factual perspective within mainly historical impact. Do not believe it should be practiced.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 26/10/21

Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.

posted on 26/10/21

I get why it was created and why some people still need it. It can be used for good but like everything man creates it's also abused.

Never needed it myself and you can say enjoying football is the closest thing to it, but even with that I find it weird how tribal people get.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 26/10/21

Heavy conversation for a Tuesday afternoon!

Personally I have no time for religion, it offers me nothing and it just makes no logical sense to me. But I know and love plenty of people who are religious and that's fine, that's their choice.

For what it's worth, I think religion (faith more generally) starts to fail when someone believes they are right and someone else is wrong. As opposed to just accepting you both believe different things.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 26/10/21

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 seconds ago
Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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You mean like social media? It’s no longer good enough to embrace or practice said beliefs and values you have to ram them down others throats?

posted on 26/10/21

comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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I'm not sure that is true, at all.

posted on 26/10/21

there trying too ban santa because its offensive too muslim's i here were not even aloud too put christmas tree's up any more because its offensive too vegans and were not aloud too use rapping paper any more as its offensive too r and b artist's when will this end

posted on 26/10/21

Not overly religious myself but still you know an Irish Catholic. (Father Ted moment there)

Born in 1974 do religion was rammed down our throats by both state and school throughout my childhood. The church ran the country back then. FFS homosexuality was only decriminalized in 1993.

So that is why I'm not too keen on it these days although I have respect for people's views and Faith as long as they are not trying to force them on others.

If someone can go into a church and say a few prayers or have moment of quiet reflection and come out feeling better then that for me is a good thing and I wish I could do it.

Religion has been used for both good and bad in the world including my own country (the Murphy report).

Also there are imo a lot more good people in the church than bad.

comment by Ruiney (U1005)

posted on 26/10/21

I think it will die out in the Western World over the next few centuries. It was easier to convince people who didn’t have google.

posted on 26/10/21

I'm with you, agnostic.

I don't believe any of the stories that god pops up in, but I also think it is stupid to steadfastly believe that life and the universe just came into existence without any possible help.

You look what we can do in terms of programming, AI etc, take that down a long enough timeline and we will be creating our own universes.

posted on 26/10/21

The basis of a theistic religion would appear to be nonsense, but it's a bit disconcerting to think about what happens if you strip it away. What should be the source of values if there isn't a kind of "objective moral truth" to adhere to? Who defines what's good? In fact, who gets to say we're supposed to be good? If all we have to go on is physical reality, then who's to say that the ethics of Gandhi are superior to the ethics of Dr Harold Shipman? It's just our subjective moral responses that shape this - moulded by our culture, which in turn has been greatly influenced by our religious traditions.

It's easy to imagine we'd be just as disposed to frown on selfishness and cruelty (over and above a certain level) without religion, but I suspect we underestimate the extent that our civilisation as a whole and we as individuals have assimilated those religious ideas.

(Take another step back and you can argue that primitive humans had an innate capacity for compassion / sharing that fed into religious thought.)

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 5 seconds ago
Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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You mean like social media? It’s no longer good enough to embrace or practice said beliefs and values you have to ram them down others throats?
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PC culture is basically a new religion.

Cancel culture is its version of preventing blasphemy.

posted on 26/10/21

Never been interested in it. Don't think I have ever prayed in my life, and doubt i ever will.

I get it, I suppose, but personally I find more comfort in the idea that life is completely meaningless, and we are just a bunch of impossibly small no-marks who exist for an incredibly brief spec of time in an infinitely large universe. Kind of just puts everything into perspective.

Other people find comfort in the exact opposite idea, which is fine. Personally though I've always found the idea of 'God' a bit perverse. Some all-knowing being who creates us for no apparent reason other than to punish or reward us, presumably for his own amusement? Honestly, if you read the stories in the Bible with a 21st century hat on I think Satan comes out looking like the good guy.

comment by N2 (U22280)

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 4 minutes ago
Religion is simply a body of beliefs and values. Therefore everyone has a religion, no matter what name they want to give to it.
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I'm not sure that is true, at all.
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I'm afraid it is.

Many things that end in an -ism is a form of religion.

posted on 26/10/21

Born in 1974 do religion was rammed down our throats by both state and school throughout my childhood.
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Not the best choice of words to describe Catholic Ireland in that period.

comment by Ali - (U1192)

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think it will die out in the Western World over the next few centuries. It was easier to convince people who didn’t have google.
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It survived Romans, Vikings etc, why wouldn't it survive anything else?

posted on 26/10/21

comment by Jadon The King Sancho (U10026)
posted 17 seconds ago
Born in 1974 do religion was rammed down our throats by both state and school throughout my childhood.
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Not the best choice of words to describe Catholic Ireland in that period.
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I know Darren, just reading back

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