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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 12 seconds ago
Get pogba back to play on the left. Will make us create a lot more
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But slows us down far more.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
It’s a twofold problem because I think they make more runs when he’s in the team as he can pick them out.
Telles being unable to run past a man doesn’t help either. His crossing isn’t good enough from the deep areas he always crosses from. Shaw’s ability to drive into the final third makes it harder for defenders to clear the cross, and gives the options of cut backs. Obviously he’s not good enough this season either, so needs to pull his finger out.
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There are times when he could get closer before crossing, but instead crosses from where he is like Beckham—but he's no Beckham. It's actually weird seeing a Brazilian play like that.
It's unfortunate that Telles hasn't been able to do himself justice at United in attack. Maybe he never will but he's not alone in that respect.
He's looked a lot more one dimensional and less purposeful than he did at Porto and nowhere as threatening with his final ball.
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 minute ago
It's unfortunate that Telles hasn't been able to do himself justice at United in attack. Maybe he never will but he's not alone in that respect.
He's looked a lot more one dimensional and less purposeful than he did at Porto and nowhere as threatening with his final ball.
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Never watched him at Porto but possibly to do with playing in a far inferior league?
I’ve been disappointed with Telles’ attacking output. It doesn’t help we don’t get him into more dangerous areas, though.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
I’ve been disappointed with Telles’ attacking output. It doesn’t help we don’t get him into more dangerous areas, though.
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I just think he doesn’t quite have the legs for it.
We’d be better with Pogba on the left, especially if we get Shaw back. I don’t know it Ragnick will play him there, though. He spoke about him playing in midfield the other month.
Never watched him at Porto but possibly to do with playing in a far inferior league?
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Possibly but then he performed very well in the Champions League as well so I don't think it was down to the quality he was playing against domestically.
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
Well yeah that’s part of the problem. But he take more risks if we could cover our full backs properly and build up play and sustain attacks better than we do.
One defeat in thirteen now, is it?
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 4 seconds ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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Strange take.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Some on here will accuse me of having an agenda but I do feel we need to try a run of games without Ronaldo starting.
I appreciate what he did in the CL and have no agenda but he’s not offering enough in league games.
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100% agree with this, except I do have an agenda.
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pogba is our best passer and is badly needed back!
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He always becomes a much better player in the minds of our fans when he's having one of his long layoffs. When he's back he reminds you he's not all that amazing.
He definitely has the best passing range of any player in our squad. That's undeniable. Trouble is that's when he is on his A game and committed to the cause. Other times he loses the ball in bad areas and gifts other teams goals.
It's always a fine line with Pogba.
The thing that heartened me most today was we finally seen some semblance of control that Ralf has been talking about. By no means a great performance and we still look lacking in attack, but West Ham are a decent team and having a very good season and they never really troubled us at all today.
On Pogba, he’s a talented player, more so than most of our players but I really just don’t see any justification for playing him. Other than bits and pieces he hasn’t really delivered for United and he’s leaving in the summer. Also he will slow the play down and expect a lot of it to go through him, the same thing people have been wanting Ronaldo dropped for.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 4 seconds ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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Strange take.
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You honestly think we’re better than that?
Positive - city are still losing
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 53 seconds ago
One defeat in thirteen now, is it?
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Yeah the problem is we've drawn too many games against teams we should be beating. We've played 4 games against our main rivals for a top 4 spot and won them all. It's the results against teams further down the table that have undone us.
And with City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal all away still to come, I think you're probably right in your prediction of 6th place
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 20 seconds ago
The thing that heartened me most today was we finally seen some semblance of control that Ralf has been talking about. By no means a great performance and we still look lacking in attack, but West Ham are a decent team and having a very good season and they never really troubled us at all today.
On Pogba, he’s a talented player, more so than most of our players but I really just don’t see any justification for playing him. Other than bits and pieces he hasn’t really delivered for United and he’s leaving in the summer. Also he will slow the play down and expect a lot of it to go through him, the same thing people have been wanting Ronaldo dropped for.
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Yep, agree with all of this.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 47 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Scud!!!
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
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So you should. Anyway pints tonight
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 second ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
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So you should. Anyway pints tonight
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Yes 100%. Town or the local?
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 1 minute ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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We were good enough to comfortably deserve top 4 last season, then got worse (while adding players and not losing any significant ones). I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that we can recover to at least the top-4 form that the current players exhibited less than a year ago, in which case we're close enough to make up ground.
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posted on 22/1/22
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posted on 22/1/22
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 12 seconds ago
Get pogba back to play on the left. Will make us create a lot more
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But slows us down far more.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
It’s a twofold problem because I think they make more runs when he’s in the team as he can pick them out.
Telles being unable to run past a man doesn’t help either. His crossing isn’t good enough from the deep areas he always crosses from. Shaw’s ability to drive into the final third makes it harder for defenders to clear the cross, and gives the options of cut backs. Obviously he’s not good enough this season either, so needs to pull his finger out.
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There are times when he could get closer before crossing, but instead crosses from where he is like Beckham—but he's no Beckham. It's actually weird seeing a Brazilian play like that.
posted on 22/1/22
It's unfortunate that Telles hasn't been able to do himself justice at United in attack. Maybe he never will but he's not alone in that respect.
He's looked a lot more one dimensional and less purposeful than he did at Porto and nowhere as threatening with his final ball.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 1 minute ago
It's unfortunate that Telles hasn't been able to do himself justice at United in attack. Maybe he never will but he's not alone in that respect.
He's looked a lot more one dimensional and less purposeful than he did at Porto and nowhere as threatening with his final ball.
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Never watched him at Porto but possibly to do with playing in a far inferior league?
posted on 22/1/22
I’ve been disappointed with Telles’ attacking output. It doesn’t help we don’t get him into more dangerous areas, though.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 14 seconds ago
I’ve been disappointed with Telles’ attacking output. It doesn’t help we don’t get him into more dangerous areas, though.
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I just think he doesn’t quite have the legs for it.
posted on 22/1/22
We’d be better with Pogba on the left, especially if we get Shaw back. I don’t know it Ragnick will play him there, though. He spoke about him playing in midfield the other month.
posted on 22/1/22
Never watched him at Porto but possibly to do with playing in a far inferior league?
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Possibly but then he performed very well in the Champions League as well so I don't think it was down to the quality he was playing against domestically.
posted on 22/1/22
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
posted on 22/1/22
Well yeah that’s part of the problem. But he take more risks if we could cover our full backs properly and build up play and sustain attacks better than we do.
posted on 22/1/22
One defeat in thirteen now, is it?
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 4 seconds ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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Strange take.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Some on here will accuse me of having an agenda but I do feel we need to try a run of games without Ronaldo starting.
I appreciate what he did in the CL and have no agenda but he’s not offering enough in league games.
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100% agree with this, except I do have an agenda.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 6 minutes ago
Pogba is our best passer and is badly needed back!
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He always becomes a much better player in the minds of our fans when he's having one of his long layoffs. When he's back he reminds you he's not all that amazing.
He definitely has the best passing range of any player in our squad. That's undeniable. Trouble is that's when he is on his A game and committed to the cause. Other times he loses the ball in bad areas and gifts other teams goals.
It's always a fine line with Pogba.
posted on 22/1/22
The thing that heartened me most today was we finally seen some semblance of control that Ralf has been talking about. By no means a great performance and we still look lacking in attack, but West Ham are a decent team and having a very good season and they never really troubled us at all today.
On Pogba, he’s a talented player, more so than most of our players but I really just don’t see any justification for playing him. Other than bits and pieces he hasn’t really delivered for United and he’s leaving in the summer. Also he will slow the play down and expect a lot of it to go through him, the same thing people have been wanting Ronaldo dropped for.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 4 seconds ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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Strange take.
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You honestly think we’re better than that?
posted on 22/1/22
Positive - city are still losing
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 53 seconds ago
One defeat in thirteen now, is it?
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Yeah the problem is we've drawn too many games against teams we should be beating. We've played 4 games against our main rivals for a top 4 spot and won them all. It's the results against teams further down the table that have undone us.
And with City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal all away still to come, I think you're probably right in your prediction of 6th place
posted on 22/1/22
comment by DoireDevilBhoy (U10745)
posted 20 seconds ago
The thing that heartened me most today was we finally seen some semblance of control that Ralf has been talking about. By no means a great performance and we still look lacking in attack, but West Ham are a decent team and having a very good season and they never really troubled us at all today.
On Pogba, he’s a talented player, more so than most of our players but I really just don’t see any justification for playing him. Other than bits and pieces he hasn’t really delivered for United and he’s leaving in the summer. Also he will slow the play down and expect a lot of it to go through him, the same thing people have been wanting Ronaldo dropped for.
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Yep, agree with all of this.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 47 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Scud!!!
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
posted on 22/1/22
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
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So you should. Anyway pints tonight
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 second ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 50 seconds ago
Positive - city are still losing
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Not anymore. Feel dirty shouting for them.
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So you should. Anyway pints tonight
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Yes 100%. Town or the local?
posted on 22/1/22
comment by Beeb - Legacy Fan (U1841)
posted 1 minute ago
Put things in perspective. 7th beat 4th, got a clean sheet, and severely restricted their chances of scoring. Some encouraging passages of play whilst showing the whole watching world those areas in which we remain poor. In addition, we coped reasonably well with a very well organised Moyes team.
We’re good enough for sixth this season - but no more than that. And that’s about all we deserve. Take it.
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We were good enough to comfortably deserve top 4 last season, then got worse (while adding players and not losing any significant ones). I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that we can recover to at least the top-4 form that the current players exhibited less than a year ago, in which case we're close enough to make up ground.
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