comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 12 minutes ago
we actually dont create that many chances, we create loads of opportunities to create good chances.
that aint about the striker
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Dammit you’ve hit the nail on the head LIW! Our final balls are mostly hopeless so we’re usually one or two touches away from a scoring opportunity. This remains unaddressed.
Was pleased with our play against Newcastle until the final ball. And the last 20 mins. Should have won, need to improve aspects of course. But despite everything that's gone wrong this season we are doing fine. And will have another go at the Premier League next season
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ditto this.
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 12 minutes ago
we actually dont create that many chances, we create loads of opportunities to create good chances.
that aint about the striker
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Dammit you’ve hit the nail on the head LIW! Our final balls are mostly hopeless so we’re usually one or two touches away from a scoring opportunity. This remains unaddressed.
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i tend to agree but not agree, we just do not have anyone who understand how to be a real cf, we miss paddy soooooooo much, it's an instinct thing, that cannot be taught, just like timing, you either have it or not
Sorry I tend to disagree with LIW comments. There were a few chances on Saturday where a decent striker would have finished the chances off. A decent striker also makes chances for others. We rely so much on Raphinha or Harrison creating something from nothing
That's a funny old way of getting c**t past the swear filter in your title, Donn. Not sure I like it.
Lots of valid arguments on this thread. I could have cried seeing us getting to the byline so many times in the first half then pulling the ball back and nobody was there to apply a finish. We needed somebody with that strikers instinct, to be in the right place at the right time. PB has it to some degree but nobody else we have has it seemingly.
Gelhardt may have it but either he was not fit enough to start or Bielsa just does not think he is ready yet.
Ings is that type of player but 25m is way too much at his age and could he do the running/closing down that Bielsa demands? I doubt it myself.
Losing games like Saturday's really hurts, because we were the better side and if we had scored first from one of the opportunities in that first half I feel we would have gone on to win it comfortably
comment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 16 minutes ago
Lots of valid arguments on this thread. I could have cried seeing us getting to the byline so many times in the first half then pulling the ball back and nobody was there to apply a finish. We needed somebody with that strikers instinct, to be in the right place at the right time. PB has it to some degree but nobody else we have has it seemingly.
Gelhardt may have it but either he was not fit enough to start or Bielsa just does not think he is ready yet.
Ings is that type of player but 25m is way too much at his age and could he do the running/closing down that Bielsa demands? I doubt it myself.
Losing games like Saturday's really hurts, because we were the better side and if we had scored first from one of the opportunities in that first half I feel we would have gone on to win it comfortably
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yup, grinds
I finally got around to looking at the highlights and credit to Newcastle for their defensive display. The times we got behind them there were still 6-7 Newcastle players in the box and each time stood in great defensive positions to stop an easy cross for a tap in.
comment by The Donn (U15142)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Mattyp ourteam create more chances than any team unfortunately most go a begging.The club should have a good scouting system and should be able to locate talent under the radar not easy but not impossible.It would definitely be worth a gamble .
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As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back (obviously Dong you didn't write the article so I very much you'd be bothered reading anyone else's comments), gone are days when coaching is done by grubby little men in flat caps and raincoats, smoking rollies. Teams invest huge amounts of money in scouting platforms, all of the Premier League teams are aware of who is out there. The trick is to bring in players, within your budget, that the coaching staff can work with to enhance your squad. Unfortunately we are in the market against teams that have much bigger budgets or have other advantages, Gallagher, for example went to Palace on loan because players are drawn to London like flies are to .....
But your post makes no sense at all, we need an established striker who can bag us 30+ goals a season and he somehow has to be under the radar. Does such a player exist? And you are talking about scouts finding this guy. What planet are you on?
Kinnear's programme notes from the weekend seem to indicate that the focus is bringing kids through rather than throwing huge amounts of cash, the club doesn't have, at mythical players
“While this has led to some factions understandably bemoaning a perceived lack of strength in depth in our squad, it promises an extremely bright future for our great club.
“This strategy clearly impacts on our evaluation of transfer targets. Our analysis indicates that many January options require an eight-figure investment. And these would not be a material improvement on the current performances of emerging players such as Bate, Hjelde and Joe Gelhardt.
“Moreover, signing other options would block such youngsters’ development. And they would offer nowhere near the same long-term potential.
“Simultaneously any January activity has an opportunity cost on more optimal moves in the summer window.
“As a board, we have always tried to be transparent with supporters in the belief that it is better if our recruitment strategy is disagreed with by some fans rather than misunderstood by many".
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 26 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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It’s a fine call with Summerville,’because of something happens to Raphinha, we definitely need him as an option down the right. Crysencionalsonhas a vital role in the Under 23s., but the. there is the precarious position of the U23s in the table. I’m also thinking about as well. Playing among the elite U23/ group is vital for these youngsters to be pushed to their limits so that they are ready to make that step up to the first team if necessary. Is still sending out youngsters on loan an indication that they no longer have a long term future at the club, as has been claimed? In Summerville’s case, I’d definitely hope not.
“Our analysis indicates that many January options require an eight-figure investment. And these would not be a material improvement on the current performances of emerging players such as Bate, Hjelde and Joe Gelhardt."
^^^^^
That's fine. The problem is, during an injury crisis,
MB is only using these players sparingly. And sending
other U23s out on loan. He prefers the square peg,
round hole senior players alternative. Again, it's fine.
But don't use one to excuse the other.
Spot on Batty.
We have read elsewhere as well that a new striker would stifle the development of Gelhardt yet he'd prefer to play a winger there ahead of him. We really need to start using these young players properly if that's the way forward - play them but not for ten minutes
Whe all know Bielsa has his own ideas and he won’t change for anyone.I think of all the way back to Jansson probably had to get rid but not for peanuts.Now the young players want to leave .Bielsas aloofness with players is counter productive.He has too much power.Ferguson went France to bring Cantona back that’s the kind of management we need but we won’t get under the present structure.
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 15 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by The Donn (U15142)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Mattyp ourteam create more chances than any team unfortunately most go a begging.The club should have a good scouting system and should be able to locate talent under the radar not easy but not impossible.It would definitely be worth a gamble .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back (obviously Dong you didn't write the article so I very much you'd be bothered reading anyone else's comments), gone are days when coaching is done by grubby little men in flat caps and raincoats, smoking rollies. Teams invest huge amounts of money in scouting platforms, all of the Premier League teams are aware of who is out there. The trick is to bring in players, within your budget, that the coaching staff can work with to enhance your squad. Unfortunately we are in the market against teams that have much bigger budgets or have other advantages, Gallagher, for example went to Palace on loan because players are drawn to London like flies are to .....
But your post makes no sense at all, we need an established striker who can bag us 30+ goals a season and he somehow has to be under the radar. Does such a player exist? And you are talking about scouts finding this guy. What planet are you on?
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"As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back"
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
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"Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League." Which has been my point all along, thank you for re-inforcing it for me.
Summerville has not delivered at top level yet, going out on loan is good for him and we won't really miss him.
Donn, chill with a nice large 🥃
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
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"Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League." Which has been my point all along, thank you for re-inforcing it for me.
Summerville has not delivered at top level yet, going out on loan is good for him and we won't really miss him.
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No, your point is it's a big a leap from U23's to 1st team, one that at 20, Summerville has struggled to bridge therefore, based on a very few minutes, we should write him off. Remember you have only ever watched him in his Premier League displays.
My view, having watched his development through the time he has been with us, is that at 20, it is far too early to write him off as glibly as you do. Bielsa really hasn't played him to his strengths.
The point i am making, which bizarrely you seem to think backs you up, is that very few players set the world on fire at so young an age. The premier league is a baptism of fire and no player should be written off so easily.
There's a player there but unfortunately you haven't watched enough of him to really know what you are talking about.
104 mins by the way Jonty, hope you give the kids you cope more of an opportunity before judging them.
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posted on 24/1/22
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 12 minutes ago
we actually dont create that many chances, we create loads of opportunities to create good chances.
that aint about the striker
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Dammit you’ve hit the nail on the head LIW! Our final balls are mostly hopeless so we’re usually one or two touches away from a scoring opportunity. This remains unaddressed.
posted on 24/1/22
Was pleased with our play against Newcastle until the final ball. And the last 20 mins. Should have won, need to improve aspects of course. But despite everything that's gone wrong this season we are doing fine. And will have another go at the Premier League next season
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ditto this.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 12 minutes ago
we actually dont create that many chances, we create loads of opportunities to create good chances.
that aint about the striker
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Dammit you’ve hit the nail on the head LIW! Our final balls are mostly hopeless so we’re usually one or two touches away from a scoring opportunity. This remains unaddressed.
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i tend to agree but not agree, we just do not have anyone who understand how to be a real cf, we miss paddy soooooooo much, it's an instinct thing, that cannot be taught, just like timing, you either have it or not
posted on 24/1/22
Sorry I tend to disagree with LIW comments. There were a few chances on Saturday where a decent striker would have finished the chances off. A decent striker also makes chances for others. We rely so much on Raphinha or Harrison creating something from nothing
posted on 24/1/22
That's a funny old way of getting c**t past the swear filter in your title, Donn. Not sure I like it.
posted on 24/1/22
Lots of valid arguments on this thread. I could have cried seeing us getting to the byline so many times in the first half then pulling the ball back and nobody was there to apply a finish. We needed somebody with that strikers instinct, to be in the right place at the right time. PB has it to some degree but nobody else we have has it seemingly.
Gelhardt may have it but either he was not fit enough to start or Bielsa just does not think he is ready yet.
Ings is that type of player but 25m is way too much at his age and could he do the running/closing down that Bielsa demands? I doubt it myself.
Losing games like Saturday's really hurts, because we were the better side and if we had scored first from one of the opportunities in that first half I feel we would have gone on to win it comfortably
posted on 24/1/22
comment by tslufc (U12903)
posted 16 minutes ago
Lots of valid arguments on this thread. I could have cried seeing us getting to the byline so many times in the first half then pulling the ball back and nobody was there to apply a finish. We needed somebody with that strikers instinct, to be in the right place at the right time. PB has it to some degree but nobody else we have has it seemingly.
Gelhardt may have it but either he was not fit enough to start or Bielsa just does not think he is ready yet.
Ings is that type of player but 25m is way too much at his age and could he do the running/closing down that Bielsa demands? I doubt it myself.
Losing games like Saturday's really hurts, because we were the better side and if we had scored first from one of the opportunities in that first half I feel we would have gone on to win it comfortably
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yup, grinds
posted on 24/1/22
I finally got around to looking at the highlights and credit to Newcastle for their defensive display. The times we got behind them there were still 6-7 Newcastle players in the box and each time stood in great defensive positions to stop an easy cross for a tap in.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by The Donn (U15142)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Mattyp ourteam create more chances than any team unfortunately most go a begging.The club should have a good scouting system and should be able to locate talent under the radar not easy but not impossible.It would definitely be worth a gamble .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back (obviously Dong you didn't write the article so I very much you'd be bothered reading anyone else's comments), gone are days when coaching is done by grubby little men in flat caps and raincoats, smoking rollies. Teams invest huge amounts of money in scouting platforms, all of the Premier League teams are aware of who is out there. The trick is to bring in players, within your budget, that the coaching staff can work with to enhance your squad. Unfortunately we are in the market against teams that have much bigger budgets or have other advantages, Gallagher, for example went to Palace on loan because players are drawn to London like flies are to .....
But your post makes no sense at all, we need an established striker who can bag us 30+ goals a season and he somehow has to be under the radar. Does such a player exist? And you are talking about scouts finding this guy. What planet are you on?
posted on 24/1/22
Kinnear's programme notes from the weekend seem to indicate that the focus is bringing kids through rather than throwing huge amounts of cash, the club doesn't have, at mythical players
“While this has led to some factions understandably bemoaning a perceived lack of strength in depth in our squad, it promises an extremely bright future for our great club.
“This strategy clearly impacts on our evaluation of transfer targets. Our analysis indicates that many January options require an eight-figure investment. And these would not be a material improvement on the current performances of emerging players such as Bate, Hjelde and Joe Gelhardt.
“Moreover, signing other options would block such youngsters’ development. And they would offer nowhere near the same long-term potential.
“Simultaneously any January activity has an opportunity cost on more optimal moves in the summer window.
“As a board, we have always tried to be transparent with supporters in the belief that it is better if our recruitment strategy is disagreed with by some fans rather than misunderstood by many".
posted on 24/1/22
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
posted on 24/1/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 26 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s a fine call with Summerville,’because of something happens to Raphinha, we definitely need him as an option down the right. Crysencionalsonhas a vital role in the Under 23s., but the. there is the precarious position of the U23s in the table. I’m also thinking about as well. Playing among the elite U23/ group is vital for these youngsters to be pushed to their limits so that they are ready to make that step up to the first team if necessary. Is still sending out youngsters on loan an indication that they no longer have a long term future at the club, as has been claimed? In Summerville’s case, I’d definitely hope not.
posted on 24/1/22
“Our analysis indicates that many January options require an eight-figure investment. And these would not be a material improvement on the current performances of emerging players such as Bate, Hjelde and Joe Gelhardt."
^^^^^
That's fine. The problem is, during an injury crisis,
MB is only using these players sparingly. And sending
other U23s out on loan. He prefers the square peg,
round hole senior players alternative. Again, it's fine.
But don't use one to excuse the other.
posted on 24/1/22
Spot on Batty.
We have read elsewhere as well that a new striker would stifle the development of Gelhardt yet he'd prefer to play a winger there ahead of him. We really need to start using these young players properly if that's the way forward - play them but not for ten minutes
posted on 24/1/22
Whe all know Bielsa has his own ideas and he won’t change for anyone.I think of all the way back to Jansson probably had to get rid but not for peanuts.Now the young players want to leave .Bielsas aloofness with players is counter productive.He has too much power.Ferguson went France to bring Cantona back that’s the kind of management we need but we won’t get under the present structure.
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 15 hours, 32 minutes ago
comment by The Donn (U15142)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
Mattyp ourteam create more chances than any team unfortunately most go a begging.The club should have a good scouting system and should be able to locate talent under the radar not easy but not impossible.It would definitely be worth a gamble .
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back (obviously Dong you didn't write the article so I very much you'd be bothered reading anyone else's comments), gone are days when coaching is done by grubby little men in flat caps and raincoats, smoking rollies. Teams invest huge amounts of money in scouting platforms, all of the Premier League teams are aware of who is out there. The trick is to bring in players, within your budget, that the coaching staff can work with to enhance your squad. Unfortunately we are in the market against teams that have much bigger budgets or have other advantages, Gallagher, for example went to Palace on loan because players are drawn to London like flies are to .....
But your post makes no sense at all, we need an established striker who can bag us 30+ goals a season and he somehow has to be under the radar. Does such a player exist? And you are talking about scouts finding this guy. What planet are you on?
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"As I pointed out to Jonty a few weeks back"
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
posted on 25/1/22
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
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"Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League." Which has been my point all along, thank you for re-inforcing it for me.
Summerville has not delivered at top level yet, going out on loan is good for him and we won't really miss him.
posted on 25/1/22
Donn, chill with a nice large 🥃
posted on 26/1/22
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - The Specials' One (U21658)
posted 14 hours, 33 minutes ago
I am a little concerned as I am reading rumours that Summerville is on his way to Hibs. We do have a talent in the U23's but if Crysencio leaves that will be two of our brightest out in a couple of weeks.
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I'm, not, he's only really had a few minutes over course of season, delivered nothing, looks utterly lightweight.
I think we're really overhyping some of these U23s.
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I suppose after yesterday's display I shouldn't ask this but, when was the last U23's game you watched? How can you write people off after only seeing them for twenty minutes?
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Maybe you should watch more matches, he;'s played nearly 6 times as much
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Played at every single age group up to U21 level for The Netherlands, scored seven times in seven games, not a bad return.
Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League.
I think you underestimate him.
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"Big leap from U23 domestic to Prem League." Which has been my point all along, thank you for re-inforcing it for me.
Summerville has not delivered at top level yet, going out on loan is good for him and we won't really miss him.
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No, your point is it's a big a leap from U23's to 1st team, one that at 20, Summerville has struggled to bridge therefore, based on a very few minutes, we should write him off. Remember you have only ever watched him in his Premier League displays.
My view, having watched his development through the time he has been with us, is that at 20, it is far too early to write him off as glibly as you do. Bielsa really hasn't played him to his strengths.
The point i am making, which bizarrely you seem to think backs you up, is that very few players set the world on fire at so young an age. The premier league is a baptism of fire and no player should be written off so easily.
There's a player there but unfortunately you haven't watched enough of him to really know what you are talking about.
posted on 26/1/22
104 mins by the way Jonty, hope you give the kids you cope more of an opportunity before judging them.
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