comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
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We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
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The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
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Where does the wealth go then?
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Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
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And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
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Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
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No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
No Daz, they'd be the useful idiots. Rev and RDD would be like the Jack Black character in Mars Attacks. Which is kind of heart-warming.
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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Why isn't Ireland a preferred destination then.
ROI, seems to be less hostile too.
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It's because we're all cants
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Really?
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You see, some don't even realise it!
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
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Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
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Said nobody.
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I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
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Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
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Said nobody.
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I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
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You think the name calling is the worse thing about this thread?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
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No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
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Are citizens of the EEA still allowed to immigrate to the U.K.?
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
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Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
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Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
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Said nobody.
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I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
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You think the name calling is the worse thing about this thread?
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I didn't bring it up. I didn't complain.
I wonder who did both of those things?
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
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Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
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It’s one of the safest countries in the world.
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
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FFS mate, my username isn't google
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
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That's the extrapolation.
5% pay 50% so if they paid twice that they'd pay it all.
Do keep up.
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
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Imagine risking your life fleeing an oppressive or war torn country only to be sent to another country that was itself war torn not too long ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
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We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
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The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where does the wealth go then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
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comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
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FFS mate, my username isn't google
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😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
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That's the extrapolation.
5% pay 50% so if they paid twice that they'd pay it all.
Do keep up.
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Well I mean technically if they paid twice what they pay now what they paid they’d pay 66.67% of all tax 😜 1 in 2 versus 2 in 3.
I said they 50% of what they should pay. You only have to look at corporate tax rates to see that.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FFS mate, my username isn't google
----------------------------------------------------------------------
😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
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60s and 70s. Up to 90% tax on income. The reason the most successful musicians left the U.K. too. The Beatles song Taxman was a whinge about it.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
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We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
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The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where does the wealth go then?
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Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
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When I was contracting I invoiced £75k in a year and paid £11 a month in national insurance.
Plenty of loopholes for the rich, but I guess you take on the risk as a business owner.
From the Guardian...
64%. The proportion of initial asylum applications that were successful in the year ending September 2021. This rate has increased in recent years. In addition, almost half of unsuccessful applications are granted on appeal.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/27/asylum-in-the-uk-the-key-numbers
Not sure I had any idea though going by many on here giving the impression it was virtually nobody? Does this imply 96% of applications are approved? And, if so, WTF are we arguing about?
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posted on 14/4/22
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where does the wealth go then?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
posted on 14/4/22
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
posted on 14/4/22
No Daz, they'd be the useful idiots. Rev and RDD would be like the Jack Black character in Mars Attacks. Which is kind of heart-warming.
posted on 14/4/22
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
The post was there to answer why they come here. Not why it would be lovely to get what we all want. I believe the other reason is the language. Quite a few speak English as a a second language.
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Why isn't Ireland a preferred destination then.
ROI, seems to be less hostile too.
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It's because we're all cants
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Really?
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You see, some don't even realise it!
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
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Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
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Said nobody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Said nobody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
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You think the name calling is the worse thing about this thread?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 23 minutes ago
Even if we wanted them where do they stay? We have severe housing shortage. Need c. 350k/yr to be added for 10 years but in the last 10 we’ve only managed 150-200kpa. We are a small island with no economic strategy to spread wealth, jobs and housing so exacerbated by every cant wanting to stay in the SE.
For everyone saying ‘aw the shame’ can they tell us how many such migrants they want to bring in and how they are going to address the housing and trades shortage?
As a reference point the boat people are already 30kpa. The prison population in the U.K. is 90k and it costs c. £45-50k per head. I’m assuming the asylum seekers would be kept in prison like accommodation else they will do a runner. The processing time we keep hearing is1.5-2 years in all countries, in many cases exacerbated by migrants destroying all documentation so they can use the made up story they’ve read up on to say to meet the criteria. So say 50k migrants at any time that is gonna cost £2bn a year to process. Every year. And probably growing once word gets round that U.K. will welcome you at the border and put you up.
Now I know many of you will say £2bn is fine. What if the number doubles? Is that fine? And doubles again? That’s +1% on your tax or vat with no economic benefit to gdp. Unless we accept all the applications, somehow find them work but still, they have nowhere to stay and no likely realistic means of paying in any case.
What gives?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your comment seems predicated on the assumption these people won't contribute to society, these aren't all bums who want to doss around watching TV all day. These include people from all walks of life, with skills and valuable professional abilities to offer.
Seriously, these arguments have been going on for years and no-one listening, ever since Farage stood in front of poster to scare people into voting for him to sit in front of a TV all day and contribute feck all. People have shared studies on here that clearly show immigrants, on average, put more into the economy than they take out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, my argument is based only on the time waiting for their asylum request to be processed. You are seeing what isn't there. Various parliamentary reports over the years say that migrants do contribute to the economy but at a very low level compared say with EEA immigrants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are citizens of the EEA still allowed to immigrate to the U.K.?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 33 seconds ago
It’s interesting how those supposedly far more liberal, understanding, humane and cleverer, are the ones who resort to vile name calling and such.
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Yeah that's the worst thing about this thread, petal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Said nobody.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just said it.
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Nobody said it was the worse thing about the thread, petal.
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Do you have a listening device in my house?
I said it.
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You think the name calling is the worse thing about this thread?
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I didn't bring it up. I didn't complain.
I wonder who did both of those things?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
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It’s one of the safest countries in the world.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
posted on 14/4/22
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
FFS mate, my username isn't google
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's the extrapolation.
5% pay 50% so if they paid twice that they'd pay it all.
Do keep up.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 12 minutes ago
This will deter people turning to people smugglers.
This means fewer poor people drowning.
It also means those silly enough to, will still get a safe existence, in Rwanda.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. It’s got a great track record for peace, good old Rwanda…
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine risking your life fleeing an oppressive or war torn country only to be sent to another country that was itself war torn not too long ago
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by And... Rosso... Though its... Yeah and... That... (U17054)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 46 seconds ago
It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
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The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
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Where does the wealth go then?
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Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
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And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
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posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
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The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
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FFS mate, my username isn't google
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😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
posted on 14/4/22
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Where did I say that? I’m saying they should pay more tax than they do. Government corruption is the reason they don’t.
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That's the extrapolation.
5% pay 50% so if they paid twice that they'd pay it all.
Do keep up.
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Well I mean technically if they paid twice what they pay now what they paid they’d pay 66.67% of all tax 😜 1 in 2 versus 2 in 3.
posted on 14/4/22
I said they 50% of what they should pay. You only have to look at corporate tax rates to see that.
posted on 14/4/22
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
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comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
The top 5% pay 50% of the tax that should actually be paying.
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So, only the top 5% of earners should pay tax?
You're maybe too young to remember the brain drain?
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When was the brain drain and what impact did tax rates play in causing it?
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FFS mate, my username isn't google
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😂😂 I did Google UK Brain Drain and it came up with a bunch of stuff about folk moving to London from the regions. Genuinely was not aware of there being one. Was this back in 1970s?
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60s and 70s. Up to 90% tax on income. The reason the most successful musicians left the U.K. too. The Beatles song Taxman was a whinge about it.
posted on 14/4/22
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comment by Silver (U6112)
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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comment by Anthony The King Elanga (U10026)
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It’s not a surprise that people that don’t like asylum seekers agree with the Tories, they’re making Britain an undesirable place to come. For shame.
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We can't feed and heat our own citizens.
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The UK is one of the richest countries in the world, and has very, very, very comfortably enough wealth to feed and heat its own citizens.
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Where does the wealth go then?
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Well almost half of it goes to the top 10% of households.
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And the top 5% of earners pay around 50% of all taxes...
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When I was contracting I invoiced £75k in a year and paid £11 a month in national insurance.
Plenty of loopholes for the rich, but I guess you take on the risk as a business owner.
posted on 14/4/22
From the Guardian...
64%. The proportion of initial asylum applications that were successful in the year ending September 2021. This rate has increased in recent years. In addition, almost half of unsuccessful applications are granted on appeal.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/27/asylum-in-the-uk-the-key-numbers
Not sure I had any idea though going by many on here giving the impression it was virtually nobody? Does this imply 96% of applications are approved? And, if so, WTF are we arguing about?
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