Ancelotti in the wrong pot he's deffo pot 1
Zidane no. Good manager in the right time and the right place still got to prove it somewhere else to be considered in the top tier with those who have.
Ancelotti should be top tier for what he's won although he's not got that x factor that the others do he's got the experience.
Bielsa nowhere near it. One dimensional.
Id prob have simeone up there for whats hes done to AM.
= stable
+ likely to move up
- likely to drop down
Tier 1:
=Guardiola
=Klopp
=Conte
-Mourinho
-Ancelotti
Tier 2
+Galtier
+Flick
=Tuchel
=Allegri
=Simeone
=Sarri
=Pellegrini
=Zidane
=Mancini
Tier 3
+Ten Hag
-Pochettino
-Emery
-Bielsa
=Luis Enrique
+Pioli
+Howe
+Potter
Simeone and anceliotti are world class
Actually, I made a mistake there, Mourinho would be Tier 2 with + potential
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Got Ajax to a CL semi final. Only time they've been there in 26 years. Also won every group game last year. Something they've never done before.
Now, before you attempt to belittle those achievements, you asked the question and I gave the answer
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Keep off the gin in the morning
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 11 seconds ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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You probably hadn't been following Ajax. Apart from delivering their first Dutch title in five years, Ten Hag also made them a respected name again in the CL after they'd spent most of the 21st century as Group Stage whipping boys. He deserves a lot more credit than people give Poch for fluking a win over them and failing to make the most of the weakest PL seasons in recent times.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 17 minutes ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Go stand outside in the sun, that’ll warm your nut
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
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Like winning a European trophy...
Mourinho is definitely not tier 1. I wouldn't even have him in tier 2 these days.
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 20 seconds ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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Good work Baz but you missed out Pardew in Galaxy class
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
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Like winning a European trophy...
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Other than the European Johnstone Paint Trophy, obviously.
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 52 minutes ago
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
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I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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Pre spurs
Are you saying he isn’t anymore? Or are basing on his previous achievements. Either way he is still WC!
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 52 minutes ago
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
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I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
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Think it’s the fact he inherited a team that had Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Kross, Modric etc all hitting their peak. No mean feat tbf what he achieved. A bit like Pep at Barca, let’s see him do it somewhere else. Then we will know he truly is the mutts nuts.
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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So lets all ignore Conte lifting Spurs from inevitable bottom half of the PL to 4th and CL, achieving the third best points total during that period, schooling Arsenal and making Dier ( among others ) actually look like a footballer.
Yeah, let's go with "pre Spurs" that makes complete sense.
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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I could get behind this one broz lol
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 10 minutes ago
I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
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Think it’s the fact he inherited a team that had Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Kross, Modric etc all hitting their peak. No mean feat tbf what he achieved. A bit like Pep at Barca, let’s see him do it somewhere else. Then we will know he truly is the mutts nuts.
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You're right about players at their peak. Ronaldo (with Pepe and Arbeloa) was actually one of only 3 squad members who'd already hit 30 at the start of the season, which makes it even more amusing when you recall how many fans back then referred to it as a one-man team.
Ftr, it was Carlo who made the breakthrough that got the side to believe in itself enough to win the CL, which was where Mourinho kept coming up short. Zidane did fantastically to exploit that.
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posted on 10/8/22
Ancelotti in the wrong pot he's deffo pot 1
posted on 10/8/22
Zidane no. Good manager in the right time and the right place still got to prove it somewhere else to be considered in the top tier with those who have.
Ancelotti should be top tier for what he's won although he's not got that x factor that the others do he's got the experience.
Bielsa nowhere near it. One dimensional.
posted on 10/8/22
Id prob have simeone up there for whats hes done to AM.
posted on 10/8/22
= stable
+ likely to move up
- likely to drop down
Tier 1:
=Guardiola
=Klopp
=Conte
-Mourinho
-Ancelotti
Tier 2
+Galtier
+Flick
=Tuchel
=Allegri
=Simeone
=Sarri
=Pellegrini
=Zidane
=Mancini
Tier 3
+Ten Hag
-Pochettino
-Emery
-Bielsa
=Luis Enrique
+Pioli
+Howe
+Potter
posted on 10/8/22
Simeone and anceliotti are world class
posted on 10/8/22
Actually, I made a mistake there, Mourinho would be Tier 2 with + potential
posted on 10/8/22
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
posted on 10/8/22
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 1 minute ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Got Ajax to a CL semi final. Only time they've been there in 26 years. Also won every group game last year. Something they've never done before.
Now, before you attempt to belittle those achievements, you asked the question and I gave the answer
posted on 10/8/22
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Keep off the gin in the morning
posted on 10/8/22
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 11 seconds ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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You probably hadn't been following Ajax. Apart from delivering their first Dutch title in five years, Ten Hag also made them a respected name again in the CL after they'd spent most of the 21st century as Group Stage whipping boys. He deserves a lot more credit than people give Poch for fluking a win over them and failing to make the most of the weakest PL seasons in recent times.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 17 minutes ago
Not warming nut why is ten hag pot 3. He has done what every ajax managwr should do before him. He'll even Steve mclaren won that league but with a much inferior squad. Ten hag to me is same as ole until.he probes otherwise.
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Go stand outside in the sun, that’ll warm your nut
posted on 10/8/22
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
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Like winning a European trophy...
posted on 10/8/22
Mourinho is definitely not tier 1. I wouldn't even have him in tier 2 these days.
posted on 10/8/22
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
posted on 10/8/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 20 seconds ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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Good work Baz but you missed out Pardew in Galaxy class
posted on 10/8/22
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 7 minutes ago
Mourinho hasnt been world class in quite a while tbf.
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Mourinho has dropped to Tier 2 for his Spurs and United (with some caveats) flops but if he does something big with Roma while they're still dark horses, he's going to shoot right back up in people's estimation.
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Like winning a European trophy...
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Other than the European Johnstone Paint Trophy, obviously.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 52 minutes ago
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
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I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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Pre spurs
Are you saying he isn’t anymore? Or are basing on his previous achievements. Either way he is still WC!
posted on 10/8/22
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 52 minutes ago
Simeone’s efforts at Atletico have been incredible and don’t get the recognition they deserve. He’s definitely elite. Ancelotti also a tier one manager. Naglesmann deserves a shout at least for tier 2. Would also add all of Mancini, Gasperini, Lopetegui, Gallardo, Gaultier, and Allegri to the second tier list. Also Zidane needs to be demoted a tier down. Agree with the comment that he was more right time right place kind of guy.
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I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
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Think it’s the fact he inherited a team that had Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Kross, Modric etc all hitting their peak. No mean feat tbf what he achieved. A bit like Pep at Barca, let’s see him do it somewhere else. Then we will know he truly is the mutts nuts.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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So lets all ignore Conte lifting Spurs from inevitable bottom half of the PL to 4th and CL, achieving the third best points total during that period, schooling Arsenal and making Dier ( among others ) actually look like a footballer.
Yeah, let's go with "pre Spurs" that makes complete sense.
posted on 10/8/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
I’d go with
Best ever
Jose
Galaxy class
Saf
Definitely world class:
Guardiola
Conte (pre spurs)
Ancelotti
Borderline/almost:
Tushiiit
Poch
Garbage
Conte (at spurs)
Flopp
Klopp
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I could get behind this one broz lol
posted on 10/8/22
comment by BelfastSpur (U15068)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 10 minutes ago
I think simeone is struggling the last few years. A few years ago I’d have said he’s world class.
I don’t agree with people questioning zidane. You can’t argue against 3 CLs in a row. The hardest competition in football to win and he did 3 in a row. Yeah Real were a great team but other teams have been equally if not more great and they couldn’t win 3 CLs in a row.
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Think it’s the fact he inherited a team that had Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Kross, Modric etc all hitting their peak. No mean feat tbf what he achieved. A bit like Pep at Barca, let’s see him do it somewhere else. Then we will know he truly is the mutts nuts.
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You're right about players at their peak. Ronaldo (with Pepe and Arbeloa) was actually one of only 3 squad members who'd already hit 30 at the start of the season, which makes it even more amusing when you recall how many fans back then referred to it as a one-man team.
Ftr, it was Carlo who made the breakthrough that got the side to believe in itself enough to win the CL, which was where Mourinho kept coming up short. Zidane did fantastically to exploit that.
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