comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
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im just telling you like it is. I dont know how to apply half it either tbf. But they are used quite intensively now, and OPTA wouldnt spend years using resources and time collating it all if it wasnt worthwhile to them.
All I did was give the reason why the stat means feck all to you ..... all the stats give a good indicator of what the player does on the pitch.
All of it is relevant to whatever degree you need the info for
Its relevant to a degree but is it better to have 39 half chance creations ie a cross in to the box that leads to a shot or 20 chance creations more likely to lead to a goal?
Although I don't think there's so much a question mark over Kent when it comes to assists, it's his composure and decision making in the final third when it comes to goal output that holds him back.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
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im just telling you like it is. I dont know how to apply half it either tbf. But they are used quite intensively now, and OPTA wouldnt spend years using resources and time collating it all if it wasnt worthwhile to them.
All I did was give the reason why the stat means feck all to you ..... all the stats give a good indicator of what the player does on the pitch.
All of it is relevant to whatever degree you need the info for
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Not arguing that for a second mate
Simply saying that looking at expected assists would be a far better judge of how Kent is doing than this chances created stuff
Same way that goals, assists, and xG are likely stats that people "in the know" will also find a bitore relevant
Can use the rest of it to dig deeper, of course it's relevant......but it means fck all to me, and basically any old passz anywhere on the pitch that leads to an attempt at goal...that's for me isn't something I feel I need to make my own judgement on a player
Im almost certain that the level of XG from the chance needs to be of a certain level in order for it count as a "chance created" so the theory of just passing to anyone and they shoot would count is not the case.
I wish I could remember where I got it from. Im sure it was a scout on youtube breaking it down. (I was learning how to figure out what some of it means cos its all included in football manager now)
Iv had a quick look and have no idea what video it was .. gonna annoy me all night now !!
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 hour ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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Because we have a team that shoot from distance?
Lawrence was a breath of fresh air in the fact he did. Tilman edge of box at a push.
Our fans are a joke, always given abuse to the best performers in likes of Goldson, Tav and Kent
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 hour ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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Because we have a team that shoot from distance?
Lawrence was a breath of fresh air in the fact he did. Tilman edge of box at a push.
Our fans are a joke, always given abuse to the best performers in likes of Goldson, Tav and Kent
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jucojames/status/1588590132642598912
This is the xA per key pass.
What is his xH?
Expected hamstrings
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
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While I take your point.....he's still not consistent enough in my view
His form was taking a dip long before Gio came along, so it's not just down to the tactics....it's down to him aswell
And although you are saying he's still creating...it's what he's creating thats the issue...it's cut in and shoot or play a cross, everytime...Barasic can do that, he's meant to be a pacey winger taking people on and beating them, he isn't doing it very often at all
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
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While I take your point.....he's still not consistent enough in my view
His form was taking a dip long before Gio came along, so it's not just down to the tactics....it's down to him aswell
And although you are saying he's still creating...it's what he's creating thats the issue...it's cut in and shoot or play a cross, everytime...Barasic can do that, he's meant to be a pacey winger taking people on and beating them, he isn't doing it very often at all
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Can’t argue with that St3vie 👍
Both were pumped well and truly however one geain of comfort is that this Celtic team are on process of building....there was no way this group of young inexperienced group of players were going to achieve anything realistic. They will acquit themselves better next year.
Problem is Kent try’s stuff
A lot of it doesn’t work
The rest didn’t even try its the safe ball all the time
Kent has been ok not great but ok in the last month
Rangers problems are in midfield offensive and defensive
Not Ryan Kent
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
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comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
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posted on 4/11/22
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
posted on 4/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
posted on 4/11/22
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
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im just telling you like it is. I dont know how to apply half it either tbf. But they are used quite intensively now, and OPTA wouldnt spend years using resources and time collating it all if it wasnt worthwhile to them.
All I did was give the reason why the stat means feck all to you ..... all the stats give a good indicator of what the player does on the pitch.
All of it is relevant to whatever degree you need the info for
posted on 4/11/22
Its relevant to a degree but is it better to have 39 half chance creations ie a cross in to the box that leads to a shot or 20 chance creations more likely to lead to a goal?
Although I don't think there's so much a question mark over Kent when it comes to assists, it's his composure and decision making in the final third when it comes to goal output that holds him back.
posted on 4/11/22
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 minute ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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it means feck all to you cos you dont know how to use that info properly , there will be a lot of stats on there that mean eff all to you cos you dont know how to then use that data effectively
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Well I do apologise for thinking that other stats might be a bit more indicative of a players true performance on the pitch
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im just telling you like it is. I dont know how to apply half it either tbf. But they are used quite intensively now, and OPTA wouldnt spend years using resources and time collating it all if it wasnt worthwhile to them.
All I did was give the reason why the stat means feck all to you ..... all the stats give a good indicator of what the player does on the pitch.
All of it is relevant to whatever degree you need the info for
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Not arguing that for a second mate
Simply saying that looking at expected assists would be a far better judge of how Kent is doing than this chances created stuff
Same way that goals, assists, and xG are likely stats that people "in the know" will also find a bitore relevant
Can use the rest of it to dig deeper, of course it's relevant......but it means fck all to me, and basically any old passz anywhere on the pitch that leads to an attempt at goal...that's for me isn't something I feel I need to make my own judgement on a player
posted on 4/11/22
Im almost certain that the level of XG from the chance needs to be of a certain level in order for it count as a "chance created" so the theory of just passing to anyone and they shoot would count is not the case.
I wish I could remember where I got it from. Im sure it was a scout on youtube breaking it down. (I was learning how to figure out what some of it means cos its all included in football manager now)
Iv had a quick look and have no idea what video it was .. gonna annoy me all night now !!
posted on 4/11/22
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 hour ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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Because we have a team that shoot from distance?
Lawrence was a breath of fresh air in the fact he did. Tilman edge of box at a push.
Our fans are a joke, always given abuse to the best performers in likes of Goldson, Tav and Kent
posted on 4/11/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 1 hour ago
Well I've just read up on the Opta website....and chances created is basically an assist, or a key pass....with a key pass basically being any pass that leads to an attempt on goal...doesn't even have to be a shot on target, just an attempt at goal
So if Kent was to play the ball back to Lundstram who has a pop at goal from 30 yards out....that's a chance created...and of the 39 accredited to him, we know just 5 have been assists....so honestly, it means fck all to me that stat.
Opta do a stat called expected assists....ie a key pass that really should lead to a goal being scored, so a proper key pass, a good cross, a lay off for a striker with a golden opportunity to score......that's a stat I'd like to see for Kent, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I reckon that'll be low, and that'll be more indicative of where he's at for us just now
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Because we have a team that shoot from distance?
Lawrence was a breath of fresh air in the fact he did. Tilman edge of box at a push.
Our fans are a joke, always given abuse to the best performers in likes of Goldson, Tav and Kent
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jucojames/status/1588590132642598912
This is the xA per key pass.
posted on 4/11/22
What is his xH?
Expected hamstrings
posted on 4/11/22
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
posted on 5/11/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
posted on 5/11/22
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
posted on 5/11/22
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
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While I take your point.....he's still not consistent enough in my view
His form was taking a dip long before Gio came along, so it's not just down to the tactics....it's down to him aswell
And although you are saying he's still creating...it's what he's creating thats the issue...it's cut in and shoot or play a cross, everytime...Barasic can do that, he's meant to be a pacey winger taking people on and beating them, he isn't doing it very often at all
posted on 5/11/22
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 12 hours, 14 minutes ago
Imagine how many xA Kent would have if we didn’t play at five miles per hour.
The stats on how slow our build up is are damning and why everyone can’t stand how we’re playing, relies heavily on individual quality vs Ange’s machine. One of the big reasons why the criticism of Kent is so daft, he’s not playing well but is our only creative midfielder.
If we had a style of play, runners from midfield and played at a decent tempo Kent’s stats would be better.
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...but they aren't
And to play a different style...what needs to change??
The manager perhaps???
Something that all of us getting tore into Kent are basically asking for
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That’s my point the criticism directed at Kent is ott and shows a complete lack of understanding of how bad we are playing, folks expecting of one player to change a game are mental, he’s no Laudrup or de Boer. He’s been poor, just like everyone else, but he’s still creating.
Celtic have that many creative players and play at speed that they’re not going to have one guy doing everything, stats show that. Never mind it’s clear just watching them. We effectively have Tav/Kent and Barisic at times from wide areas. Then you’ve got Lundstram behind picking up any second balls, although still didn’t expect him to be that high.
If we were playing with a clear style of play and not so feckin turgid then obv you’ll get more from your attacking players. Folk underrating Kent, saying he’s not good enough for bang average sides in England is just daft, shown how good he is against top teams last season, so anyone saying he can’t do that is simply wrong.
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While I take your point.....he's still not consistent enough in my view
His form was taking a dip long before Gio came along, so it's not just down to the tactics....it's down to him aswell
And although you are saying he's still creating...it's what he's creating thats the issue...it's cut in and shoot or play a cross, everytime...Barasic can do that, he's meant to be a pacey winger taking people on and beating them, he isn't doing it very often at all
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Can’t argue with that St3vie 👍
posted on 5/11/22
Both were pumped well and truly however one geain of comfort is that this Celtic team are on process of building....there was no way this group of young inexperienced group of players were going to achieve anything realistic. They will acquit themselves better next year.
posted on 5/11/22
Problem is Kent try’s stuff
A lot of it doesn’t work
The rest didn’t even try its the safe ball all the time
Kent has been ok not great but ok in the last month
Rangers problems are in midfield offensive and defensive
Not Ryan Kent
posted on 6/11/22
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
posted on 6/11/22
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
posted on 6/11/22
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
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posted on 6/11/22
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 2 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 8 seconds ago
From The Glasgow Times
‘Rangers are all-but done in the Premiership. And Van Bronckhorst is all-but done as boss. In both situations, it is only a matter of when those at Ibrox wish to admit it.’
Ooft!
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Quite the exclusive
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'all-but'
Wtf is that?
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