They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
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that's one way yes, but I think yellow cards are too harsh for players. Give them 10 seconds to do it and then reverse the throw in to the other team. Don't think any player will complain really about this punishment
comment by HenryKamp (U21315)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
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that's one way yes, but I think yellow cards are too harsh for players. Give them 10 seconds to do it and then reverse the throw in to the other team. Don't think any player will complain really about this punishment
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The whole idea is to reduce time wasting. Your idea increases it. They take ages to take the throw, then throw the ball away as the opposition run after it, to then take their throw in.
You had 2 players wasting time on the same throw in, should have booked them both
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 37 seconds ago
You had 2 players wasting time on the same throw in, should have booked them both
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If he had booked the first one like he should have, the second one wouldn't have got booked. The referee not doing his job, played a big part in the extremely soft red card.
The Tomi 1st booking was harsh but the crowd were screaming at the ref for about 2 minutes straight so somebody was eventually gonna get booked if they weren’t wising up to the situation. In that scenario, even 8 seconds was too long, he should have taken the throw quicker.
The 2nd yellow is obviously the most laughable decision, considering the player ‘fouled’ made a much more cynical and blatant shirt pull on Saka earlier in the game which he didn’t receive a 2nd yellow for
Yeah I think the second was a yellow but just, which makes the red extremely harsh considering the first was really as a result of the first throw in taker taking too long.
I didn't see the Saka one but perhaps it didn't stop a dangerous attack, which is the criteria for a yellow in that situation.
The foul on Saka was the one we took a quick FK and got the pen from. It was as clear a yellow as you’ll see but ref bottled it cos he was already on a yellow. It’s the only reason he let us take a quick FK so nobody had time to think about why he hadn’t just sent Ayew off for an obvious 2nd yellow.
The 2nd yellow is extremely harsh, but can't see how anyone can complain about the first.
The referee had literally just told them to cut out the timewasting. The GK was setting up his goal kick only to then role it to a defender to take the goal kick.
He then kicks it upfield and they start it again on the throw. Obvious timewasting which every team have been told to cut out.
I think the complaint about the first should be the fact that the person who was booked actually wasted the least amount of time in that sequence of play.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think the complaint about the first should be the fact that the person who was booked actually wasted the least amount of time in that sequence of play.
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You have to draw the line somewhere, and him being the last person he is always going to be the one cautioned.
Teams have been warned about time wasting before the season, and they were even warned to cut it out not even a minute before the throw in. They really don't have an argument here.
Don’t have a problem with the 1st yellow as long as there is consistency. 2nd yellow was a joke
Why is it ridiculous? The first yellow was fully deserved.
If it wasn’t punished you could just rotate through your team for 10-15 seconds each to take a throw.
The second was the ridiculous yellow
Have a timer for it all, throw ins, freekicks, goal kicks and give an automatic yellow if a player is too slow. At least that way referee bias doesn't punish one side over another.
It would be great to see time wasting largely become a thing of the past.
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
Partey blocking 2 defenders from defending the free kick that lead to the penalty not being picked up on was just as bad as the 2nd yellow. After refs making a big point of it last season to stop teams from doing it.
Simple solution is after 20 seconds if u still haven't taken the throw in, would be that you lose the throw in and it goes to the opposition.
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 55 minutes ago
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
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Eze literally dived twice. One the ref bought it and gave the fk just outside the box despite being no contact and the other do diving in the box where he tried making contact with Partey who pulled his leg back.
If the ref did his job and booked him for simulation the 2 arsenal players would have been waving cards.
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 55 minutes ago
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
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Eze literally dived twice. One the ref bought it and gave the fk just outside the box despite being no contact and the other do diving in the box where he tried making contact with Partey who pulled his leg back.
If the ref did his job and booked him for simulation the 2 arsenal players would have been waving cards.
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That’s down to his bosses to demote him, not for Arsenal’s players to ref the game
If we keep seeing yellow cards for taking 23seconds to take a throw in them I'm all for it
I worry that it's going to be quite arbitrary and favour the home team as it did yesterday
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
Love how the hoof ball teams get a minute to take a long throw. Get to wipe the ball down with a towel and wait for the CB’s to get up the pitch.
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
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Wtf are you on about "main culprits"?
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/05/guide-to-premier-league-time-wasting/
We're in the middle on both ball in play and time taken over our stoppages, it's hard to take your post seriously when you just come in with nonsense off the bat
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
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Wtf are you on about "main culprits"?
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/05/guide-to-premier-league-time-wasting/
We're in the middle on both ball in play and time taken over our stoppages, it's hard to take your post seriously when you just come in with nonsense off the bat
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I mean Arsenal always looked to time waste when leading and were one of the worst for it last season. What else would I mean?
These stats are pointless. Teams that have the ball more and are better are going to have less opportunity to time waste when the ball is out of play, as they're doing it with possession instead.
If you wanted stats to disprove my point you'd have to show the percentage of time wasting, when teams actually had the opportunity to do so, with the ball out of play, when leading.
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Throw-in yellow cards
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posted on 22/8/23
They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
posted on 22/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
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that's one way yes, but I think yellow cards are too harsh for players. Give them 10 seconds to do it and then reverse the throw in to the other team. Don't think any player will complain really about this punishment
posted on 22/8/23
comment by HenryKamp (U21315)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
They should show a timer and when it reaches zero, the yellow card comes out. That way everybody knows when the factual offence will occur and nobody is caught out. The players can surely count to ten, well most of them, so they'll be fine.
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that's one way yes, but I think yellow cards are too harsh for players. Give them 10 seconds to do it and then reverse the throw in to the other team. Don't think any player will complain really about this punishment
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The whole idea is to reduce time wasting. Your idea increases it. They take ages to take the throw, then throw the ball away as the opposition run after it, to then take their throw in.
posted on 22/8/23
You had 2 players wasting time on the same throw in, should have booked them both
posted on 22/8/23
comment by Bobby Dazzler (U1449)
posted 37 seconds ago
You had 2 players wasting time on the same throw in, should have booked them both
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If he had booked the first one like he should have, the second one wouldn't have got booked. The referee not doing his job, played a big part in the extremely soft red card.
posted on 22/8/23
The Tomi 1st booking was harsh but the crowd were screaming at the ref for about 2 minutes straight so somebody was eventually gonna get booked if they weren’t wising up to the situation. In that scenario, even 8 seconds was too long, he should have taken the throw quicker.
The 2nd yellow is obviously the most laughable decision, considering the player ‘fouled’ made a much more cynical and blatant shirt pull on Saka earlier in the game which he didn’t receive a 2nd yellow for
posted on 22/8/23
Yeah I think the second was a yellow but just, which makes the red extremely harsh considering the first was really as a result of the first throw in taker taking too long.
I didn't see the Saka one but perhaps it didn't stop a dangerous attack, which is the criteria for a yellow in that situation.
posted on 22/8/23
The foul on Saka was the one we took a quick FK and got the pen from. It was as clear a yellow as you’ll see but ref bottled it cos he was already on a yellow. It’s the only reason he let us take a quick FK so nobody had time to think about why he hadn’t just sent Ayew off for an obvious 2nd yellow.
posted on 22/8/23
The 2nd yellow is extremely harsh, but can't see how anyone can complain about the first.
The referee had literally just told them to cut out the timewasting. The GK was setting up his goal kick only to then role it to a defender to take the goal kick.
He then kicks it upfield and they start it again on the throw. Obvious timewasting which every team have been told to cut out.
posted on 22/8/23
I think the complaint about the first should be the fact that the person who was booked actually wasted the least amount of time in that sequence of play.
posted on 22/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think the complaint about the first should be the fact that the person who was booked actually wasted the least amount of time in that sequence of play.
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You have to draw the line somewhere, and him being the last person he is always going to be the one cautioned.
Teams have been warned about time wasting before the season, and they were even warned to cut it out not even a minute before the throw in. They really don't have an argument here.
posted on 22/8/23
Don’t have a problem with the 1st yellow as long as there is consistency. 2nd yellow was a joke
posted on 22/8/23
Why is it ridiculous? The first yellow was fully deserved.
If it wasn’t punished you could just rotate through your team for 10-15 seconds each to take a throw.
The second was the ridiculous yellow
posted on 22/8/23
Have a timer for it all, throw ins, freekicks, goal kicks and give an automatic yellow if a player is too slow. At least that way referee bias doesn't punish one side over another.
It would be great to see time wasting largely become a thing of the past.
posted on 22/8/23
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
posted on 22/8/23
Partey blocking 2 defenders from defending the free kick that lead to the penalty not being picked up on was just as bad as the 2nd yellow. After refs making a big point of it last season to stop teams from doing it.
posted on 22/8/23
Stop the clock.
posted on 22/8/23
Simple solution is after 20 seconds if u still haven't taken the throw in, would be that you lose the throw in and it goes to the opposition.
posted on 22/8/23
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 55 minutes ago
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
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Eze literally dived twice. One the ref bought it and gave the fk just outside the box despite being no contact and the other do diving in the box where he tried making contact with Partey who pulled his leg back.
If the ref did his job and booked him for simulation the 2 arsenal players would have been waving cards.
posted on 22/8/23
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 55 minutes ago
Even though the 2nd yellow was harsh af its brilliant for the game, everyone knows the first was for time wasting... Great deterrent, keep it up and teams and players will book their ideas up and stop doing it thats for sure.
However Arsenal got away wiith loads of other sheit, stopping quick free kicks, 2 players asking for a yellow card for Eze, neither got booked which is what refs are told to do now and we've seen all of last week and this week. Until last night anyway, very poor officiating and Coote alone seems to have ruined the consistency on it already.
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Eze literally dived twice. One the ref bought it and gave the fk just outside the box despite being no contact and the other do diving in the box where he tried making contact with Partey who pulled his leg back.
If the ref did his job and booked him for simulation the 2 arsenal players would have been waving cards.
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That’s down to his bosses to demote him, not for Arsenal’s players to ref the game
posted on 22/8/23
If we keep seeing yellow cards for taking 23seconds to take a throw in them I'm all for it
I worry that it's going to be quite arbitrary and favour the home team as it did yesterday
posted on 22/8/23
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
posted on 22/8/23
Love how the hoof ball teams get a minute to take a long throw. Get to wipe the ball down with a towel and wait for the CB’s to get up the pitch.
posted on 22/8/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
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Wtf are you on about "main culprits"?
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/05/guide-to-premier-league-time-wasting/
We're in the middle on both ball in play and time taken over our stoppages, it's hard to take your post seriously when you just come in with nonsense off the bat
posted on 22/8/23
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 25 minutes ago
Arsenal were one of the main culprits for time wasting last season, it's likely referees know who they are and watch out for it.
However I still think the booking should have come before the Arsenal defender was booked and that on top of the harsh second yellow makes the sending off extremely harsh.
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Wtf are you on about "main culprits"?
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/05/guide-to-premier-league-time-wasting/
We're in the middle on both ball in play and time taken over our stoppages, it's hard to take your post seriously when you just come in with nonsense off the bat
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I mean Arsenal always looked to time waste when leading and were one of the worst for it last season. What else would I mean?
These stats are pointless. Teams that have the ball more and are better are going to have less opportunity to time waste when the ball is out of play, as they're doing it with possession instead.
If you wanted stats to disprove my point you'd have to show the percentage of time wasting, when teams actually had the opportunity to do so, with the ball out of play, when leading.
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