comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
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Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats.
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Stop embarrassing yourself
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I'm not though.
First it was Rashford is to blame. We have lost 3 nil at
home in 2 of the 3 home games he was dropped.
Now it's Bruno to blame. It's quite incredible the lengths people will go to protect this manager at all costs.
His own two major signings in the forward line haven't scored a single PL goal this season. Antony only has 4 in a season and a half too.
Bruno n Rashford can be frustrating. I get it. They aren't the biggest problem though contrary to what some folk want to believe.
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Yes, but in your mind all the same people criticising Rashford and Bruno and defending Antony (I don't know anyone who even does this) are doing so because they dont want any criticism of the manager.
To put it bluntly, it's just complete and utter bollox. The OP himself probably produces more bile about ETH than anyone.
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Do you think we are better without Rashford n Bruno?
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This isn’t the simple question & answer you think it is.
First of all we’ve never seen both players out for any extended period to say for certain either way.
That said, are we better defensively with Garnacho & Antony on the flanks than with one of them + Rashford? Yes, 100%. What about in attack… Based on this season there’s virtually no difference regardless of who plays. Rashford certainly doesn’t score that overhead against Everton that Garnacho did, but he also maybe had that extra power to finish off that Mainoo pass today.
Hard to say with Bruno. The only other proper candidate to play #10 in his place would be Eriksen, who has the vision & football brain of Bruno but is a bit safer in possession too. We’ve not and are never likely to see him at #10 ahead of say, Mainoo & Casemiro but I’d be surprised if it was an improvement that this stage in Eriksen’s career. Through lack of quality alternatives, we’re probably not better without Bruno despite his deficiencies. But again, unless we see a team without him for an extended period, we’ll never truly know.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
But onto my point. Who are these people who are criticising Bruno and Rashford to take the blame off ETH? Can you name one?
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Because it's deflection. Rashford was getting it after every game despite ETH not setting up the team correctly.
We've seen it's still not good without Rashy. Newcastle and Bournemouth both beat us 3-0 at home with relative ease.
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No, you can't name one then.
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk. Sometimes, rather than doubling down, it's best to step back and ask yourself 'is it me'?
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk.
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
But onto my point. Who are these people who are criticising Bruno and Rashford to take the blame off ETH? Can you name one?
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Because it's deflection. Rashford was getting it after every game despite ETH not setting up the team correctly.
We've seen it's still not good without Rashy. Newcastle and Bournemouth both beat us 3-0 at home with relative ease.
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No, you can't name one then.
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk. Sometimes, rather than doubling down, it's best to step back and ask yourself 'is it me'?
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Im sorry I didn't take notes of the user names. Not like that matters anyway because people change them so often.
People were saying that Rashford was the problem and if he was dropped we'd improve. We didn't. We got whacked 3-0 at home twice. You might argue we would have done with Rashford for too but we certainly didn't improve.
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
I had a few beers this afternoon but wouldn't say I was drunk.
Sick to death of Bruno Rashy copping most of the blame. That's all it is mate. 👍
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
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Not from everyone.
He should be though. He's made us a worse team through some quite frankly disastrous signings.
We would probably be in the last 16 of the CL with a competent GK for one.
With a top right winger who knows where we'd be too. Certainly with more than 4 PL goals and 2 assists in 18 months.
Team shape and defence was good today. The attack still looks woefully short.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
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Well no, because the OP is also quite staunchly against ETH if you have a look at his article history.
I agree with you entirely about Bruno fwiw, but maybe stop trying to turn this into some agenda-fuelled argument that it is not. That kind of thing honestly starts to make this forum unbearable.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
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I think with it being one game a week predominantly from here on in, he will start often. Never want to see a young player being overplayed but once a week, that's grand and he could be the biggest beneficiary or it... And United as a team may also be
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
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I think with it being one game a week predominantly from here on in, he will start often. Never want to see a young player being overplayed but once a week, that's grand and he could be the biggest beneficiary or it... And United as a team may also be
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*Of it
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
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Not from everyone.
He should be though. He's made us a worse team through some quite frankly disastrous signings.
We would probably be in the last 16 of the CL with a competent GK for one.
With a top right winger who knows where we'd be too. Certainly with more than 4 PL goals and 2 assists in 18 months.
Team shape and defence was good today. The attack still looks woefully short.
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Scroll back and there's arguably been more articles calling for ETH Out than articles in support of him in these last few weeks
He's made mistakes for sure but he's had his share of bad luck aswell
Good result and battling performance today showing that he hasn't quite lost the dressing room yet.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that we are more likely to score with Bruno in the team and much more likely to concede too.
So I don't think he improves us overall.
Big games like yesterday, where a draw away from home is considered a positive result...I would play without him.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 hours, 7 minutes ago
Most chances created this season.
1. Salah 13
2. Trippier 10
3. Trent 9
3. Bruno 9
Absolute nonsense from a brain-dead fanbase yet again. Bruno is definitely one of our best players.
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He's just an unlikeable whiney girl...what can you do
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 hours, 27 minutes ago
I had a few beers this afternoon but wouldn't say I was drunk.
Sick to death of Bruno Rashy copping most of the blame. That's all it is mate. 👍
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So I wasn't that far off then. Your broadsides did have a bit of a howling at the moon vibe to them. Hope you're feeling better today.
Whatever you think of Bruno, we need a firing Bruno in the team. Currently, we just can't afford to leave him out on a long-term basis, so we need him to get his mojo back. By all means, take the captaincy off him, but if the players show any kind of form, then Bruno has to be part of that.
In a similar way, the same applies to Rashford. Those 2 have annoyed all of us so much recently, but deep down we won't get anywhere for the rest of the season without those 2 being on form.
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 28 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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True.
The problem with Bruno is that if he does not produce something then his performances are generally a 5 out of 10 or below that.
That means you are carrying a player for most of the season,.
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
Do people think McTominay played well yesterday or something? I don't get it.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
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He is working on the principle that Bruno would have given the ball away more and the dips would have finally got a goal from one of their breakaways.
The flip side is Bruno could have had one of his productive games and we ended up winning it.
Option one is more likely.
Surely it’s a case of ETH not exactly tearing up trees and the same with most of the players. Then we have the mess above.
We’ve changed players plenty, we’ve changed managers plenty. We are yet to change upstairs.
I missed this. SE in his digging a hole mode is uncontrollable. How can someone who wants ETH out for regularly playing out of form players like Rashford and Bruno and simply incapable ones like Eriksen and Antony rather than trying someone else are now trying to push the blame away from him for having to not play them for a few games (all against his will tbh).
Bruno is a95% bad/5%brilliant player. The constant indulgence by ETH means even when they look so woeful, he somehow doubles down. He makes sure their form gets to the very bottom before thinking ok maybe I should "rest" him. Have you noticed even rashford has not complained about his benching? Most fans too. Trust me, it would be the same with bruno. You cannot ever believe any player is bigger than the team. You certainly should not make any player actually believe that. That point is where they become their worst versions of themselves.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
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He is working on the principle that Bruno would have given the ball away more and the dips would have finally got a goal from one of their breakaways.
The flip side is Bruno could have had one of his productive games and we ended up winning it.
Option one is more likely.
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If Bruno came straight in for one of Amrabat/Mainoo then yeah. But that would've been on ETH.
If Bruno was to come in and play the role McTominay did (i.e. stationed high, almost next to Hojlund at times) then I don't see how he would have been detrimental. In fact I saw at least two occasions in the first half where McTominay squandered a very good counter attacking opportunity - once by miscontrolling a pass, and another where he fell over his own feet. Put Bruno in those situations and it's a different outcome.
In reality his absence probably did help us, as I'm fairly sure he wouldve played with McTominay had he been available. But as I said that would've been on the manager's set up. Bruno's mere presence doesn't stop us playing how we did yesterday as long as the set up around him is right, as it was for McTominay.
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posted on 17/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 3 minutes ago
Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats.
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Stop embarrassing yourself
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I'm not though.
First it was Rashford is to blame. We have lost 3 nil at
home in 2 of the 3 home games he was dropped.
Now it's Bruno to blame. It's quite incredible the lengths people will go to protect this manager at all costs.
His own two major signings in the forward line haven't scored a single PL goal this season. Antony only has 4 in a season and a half too.
Bruno n Rashford can be frustrating. I get it. They aren't the biggest problem though contrary to what some folk want to believe.
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Yes, but in your mind all the same people criticising Rashford and Bruno and defending Antony (I don't know anyone who even does this) are doing so because they dont want any criticism of the manager.
To put it bluntly, it's just complete and utter bollox. The OP himself probably produces more bile about ETH than anyone.
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Do you think we are better without Rashford n Bruno?
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This isn’t the simple question & answer you think it is.
First of all we’ve never seen both players out for any extended period to say for certain either way.
That said, are we better defensively with Garnacho & Antony on the flanks than with one of them + Rashford? Yes, 100%. What about in attack… Based on this season there’s virtually no difference regardless of who plays. Rashford certainly doesn’t score that overhead against Everton that Garnacho did, but he also maybe had that extra power to finish off that Mainoo pass today.
Hard to say with Bruno. The only other proper candidate to play #10 in his place would be Eriksen, who has the vision & football brain of Bruno but is a bit safer in possession too. We’ve not and are never likely to see him at #10 ahead of say, Mainoo & Casemiro but I’d be surprised if it was an improvement that this stage in Eriksen’s career. Through lack of quality alternatives, we’re probably not better without Bruno despite his deficiencies. But again, unless we see a team without him for an extended period, we’ll never truly know.
posted on 17/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
But onto my point. Who are these people who are criticising Bruno and Rashford to take the blame off ETH? Can you name one?
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Because it's deflection. Rashford was getting it after every game despite ETH not setting up the team correctly.
We've seen it's still not good without Rashy. Newcastle and Bournemouth both beat us 3-0 at home with relative ease.
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No, you can't name one then.
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk. Sometimes, rather than doubling down, it's best to step back and ask yourself 'is it me'?
posted on 17/12/23
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk.
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posted on 17/12/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 4 minutes ago
But onto my point. Who are these people who are criticising Bruno and Rashford to take the blame off ETH? Can you name one?
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Because it's deflection. Rashford was getting it after every game despite ETH not setting up the team correctly.
We've seen it's still not good without Rashy. Newcastle and Bournemouth both beat us 3-0 at home with relative ease.
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No, you can't name one then.
You have been so ridiculous on this thread that there is another poster on here genuinely asking if you are drunk. Sometimes, rather than doubling down, it's best to step back and ask yourself 'is it me'?
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Im sorry I didn't take notes of the user names. Not like that matters anyway because people change them so often.
People were saying that Rashford was the problem and if he was dropped we'd improve. We didn't. We got whacked 3-0 at home twice. You might argue we would have done with Rashford for too but we certainly didn't improve.
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
posted on 17/12/23
I had a few beers this afternoon but wouldn't say I was drunk.
Sick to death of Bruno Rashy copping most of the blame. That's all it is mate. 👍
posted on 17/12/23
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
posted on 17/12/23
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
posted on 17/12/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
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Not from everyone.
He should be though. He's made us a worse team through some quite frankly disastrous signings.
We would probably be in the last 16 of the CL with a competent GK for one.
With a top right winger who knows where we'd be too. Certainly with more than 4 PL goals and 2 assists in 18 months.
Team shape and defence was good today. The attack still looks woefully short.
posted on 17/12/23
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
posted on 17/12/23
Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
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Well no, because the OP is also quite staunchly against ETH if you have a look at his article history.
I agree with you entirely about Bruno fwiw, but maybe stop trying to turn this into some agenda-fuelled argument that it is not. That kind of thing honestly starts to make this forum unbearable.
posted on 17/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
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I think with it being one game a week predominantly from here on in, he will start often. Never want to see a young player being overplayed but once a week, that's grand and he could be the biggest beneficiary or it... And United as a team may also be
posted on 17/12/23
comment by merrysupersteve (relaxed about the situation) (U1132)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Not sure what you're actually arguing either. There's been quite a few ardent ETH inners. Cleverson and Vengeance have been very vocally ETH in. I'm sure they'd would say so too.
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It's quite clear what I'm arguing. It's this point:
"Most of these people happen to be the same people wanting to deflect blame off the manager though and are looking for scapegoats."
It just isn't true, and I think by now you isn't true but are still doubling and tripling down.
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Hasn't the OP proven my point too? Referencing Bruno?
If people can't understand that the difference wasn't no Bruno but two 6's today then they need to take up another sport.
Bruno Mainoo Amrabat would have been better than Mctominay Mainoo Amrabat. That's the whole point.
If Bruno returns next week at Westham, as he will, and ETH does back to Mctominay n Amrabat in midfield then he's learned nothing. Mainoo has to start for me.
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I think with it being one game a week predominantly from here on in, he will start often. Never want to see a young player being overplayed but once a week, that's grand and he could be the biggest beneficiary or it... And United as a team may also be
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*Of it
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Seems to me that it's been ETH copping most if the blame
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Not from everyone.
He should be though. He's made us a worse team through some quite frankly disastrous signings.
We would probably be in the last 16 of the CL with a competent GK for one.
With a top right winger who knows where we'd be too. Certainly with more than 4 PL goals and 2 assists in 18 months.
Team shape and defence was good today. The attack still looks woefully short.
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Scroll back and there's arguably been more articles calling for ETH Out than articles in support of him in these last few weeks
He's made mistakes for sure but he's had his share of bad luck aswell
Good result and battling performance today showing that he hasn't quite lost the dressing room yet.
posted on 18/12/23
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that we are more likely to score with Bruno in the team and much more likely to concede too.
So I don't think he improves us overall.
Big games like yesterday, where a draw away from home is considered a positive result...I would play without him.
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 11 hours, 7 minutes ago
Most chances created this season.
1. Salah 13
2. Trippier 10
3. Trent 9
3. Bruno 9
Absolute nonsense from a brain-dead fanbase yet again. Bruno is definitely one of our best players.
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He's just an unlikeable whiney girl...what can you do
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 10 hours, 27 minutes ago
I had a few beers this afternoon but wouldn't say I was drunk.
Sick to death of Bruno Rashy copping most of the blame. That's all it is mate. 👍
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So I wasn't that far off then. Your broadsides did have a bit of a howling at the moon vibe to them. Hope you're feeling better today.
posted on 18/12/23
Whatever you think of Bruno, we need a firing Bruno in the team. Currently, we just can't afford to leave him out on a long-term basis, so we need him to get his mojo back. By all means, take the captaincy off him, but if the players show any kind of form, then Bruno has to be part of that.
In a similar way, the same applies to Rashford. Those 2 have annoyed all of us so much recently, but deep down we won't get anywhere for the rest of the season without those 2 being on form.
posted on 18/12/23
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 28 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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True.
The problem with Bruno is that if he does not produce something then his performances are generally a 5 out of 10 or below that.
That means you are carrying a player for most of the season,.
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
posted on 18/12/23
Do people think McTominay played well yesterday or something? I don't get it.
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
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He is working on the principle that Bruno would have given the ball away more and the dips would have finally got a goal from one of their breakaways.
The flip side is Bruno could have had one of his productive games and we ended up winning it.
Option one is more likely.
posted on 18/12/23
Surely it’s a case of ETH not exactly tearing up trees and the same with most of the players. Then we have the mess above.
We’ve changed players plenty, we’ve changed managers plenty. We are yet to change upstairs.
posted on 18/12/23
I missed this. SE in his digging a hole mode is uncontrollable. How can someone who wants ETH out for regularly playing out of form players like Rashford and Bruno and simply incapable ones like Eriksen and Antony rather than trying someone else are now trying to push the blame away from him for having to not play them for a few games (all against his will tbh).
Bruno is a95% bad/5%brilliant player. The constant indulgence by ETH means even when they look so woeful, he somehow doubles down. He makes sure their form gets to the very bottom before thinking ok maybe I should "rest" him. Have you noticed even rashford has not complained about his benching? Most fans too. Trust me, it would be the same with bruno. You cannot ever believe any player is bigger than the team. You certainly should not make any player actually believe that. That point is where they become their worst versions of themselves.
posted on 18/12/23
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Vladimikel Artutin - committing war crimes against football since 2019 (U18355)
posted 56 minutes ago
OP getting a load of abuse but no chance you get that result with Bruno in the team.
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Why?
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He is working on the principle that Bruno would have given the ball away more and the dips would have finally got a goal from one of their breakaways.
The flip side is Bruno could have had one of his productive games and we ended up winning it.
Option one is more likely.
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If Bruno came straight in for one of Amrabat/Mainoo then yeah. But that would've been on ETH.
If Bruno was to come in and play the role McTominay did (i.e. stationed high, almost next to Hojlund at times) then I don't see how he would have been detrimental. In fact I saw at least two occasions in the first half where McTominay squandered a very good counter attacking opportunity - once by miscontrolling a pass, and another where he fell over his own feet. Put Bruno in those situations and it's a different outcome.
In reality his absence probably did help us, as I'm fairly sure he wouldve played with McTominay had he been available. But as I said that would've been on the manager's set up. Bruno's mere presence doesn't stop us playing how we did yesterday as long as the set up around him is right, as it was for McTominay.
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