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comment by House (U17162)

posted on 27/2/24

Oh yeah wasn't an extra round added to the Ropey league for the CL clubs that dropped down into it?

I'm surprised anyone is surprised by all the injuries.

Wasn't it last year or the year before that United played more games across a whole season than any other top flight team in Europe? Over 60 odd?

I'll hammer my argument again. More games, longer games, faster games, more injuries, not a surprise.

posted on 27/2/24

Just off the top of my head United, Liverpool, Spurs, Newcastle, Brighton, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle haven’t had as many injuries in recent years as they have this season. It’s not the norm.

posted on 27/2/24

comment by House (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
It’s not the norm.
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Every season multiple PL clubs have burgeonjng injury lists. As the games get faster, games get longer, more games, more injuries
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It isn’t the norm for us to have this amount of injuries. You would have to go back to LVG time for when we had this many.

posted on 28/2/24

I’ve never seen injuries like this across the league. Longer games is a good point too. I cba with work today so will try and find some data if possible

comment by House (U17162)

posted on 28/2/24

Looking across different sites for clubs injury lists, some sites will say we have as many as 11 missing, some will say 10, some will say 8, and I think one said we have 7 missing.

These lists show the other PL clubs and we are not exceptional in comparison.

There will be another injuries article next year, as it is the norm

comment by House (U17162)

posted on 28/2/24

https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/fantasy-football-injuries/

https://www.sportsgambler.com/injuries/football/england-premier-league/

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3777299

https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

As we can see, United don't stand out. This all looks very ordinary for the current workload to me.

The injury list is normal, it's the work load thats increasing

posted on 28/2/24

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but you’re contradicting yourself

posted on 28/2/24

There have been 196 injuries in just over three months at the start of the 2023-24 top-flight season, according to data analyst Ben Dinnery, founder of Premier Injuries - a 15% increase compared with the past four campaigns

posted on 28/2/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I’m not sure if you’re aware, but you’re contradicting yourself
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I’m not sure if he’s aware what the word normal means.

comment by House (U17162)

posted on 28/2/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
I’m not sure if you’re aware, but you’re contradicting yourself
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I’m not sure if he’s aware what the word normal means.
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What is the normal amount of injuries for this time of the season?

If someone said to me that injuries are down 15% compared with the last 4 years while the work load has increased and is increasing I'd say wow that's unexpected, not normal.

People are crying saying "seriously, wtf!' and then querying if it's our medical teams or training sessions when it's quite obvious what the reason is. I fully expect this time next year most PL clubs will have a similar or even bigger injury list. This will be the norm while we keep adding more games to the fixture list

posted on 28/2/24

The injuries have gone up from even since those first three months.

You can try and dress it up how you like, there has been a significant increase in injuries across the league, it’s not even up for debate, and therefore is not ‘normal’.

The reasons for that, which is seemingly what you’re writing about, is an entirely different conversation.

comment by House (U17162)

posted on 28/2/24

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
The injuries have gone up from even since those first three months.

You can try and dress it up how you like, there has been a significant increase in injuries across the league, it’s not even up for debate, and therefore is not ‘normal’.

The reasons for that, which is seemingly what you’re writing about, is an entirely different conversation.
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I don't think humans are machines, I think muscles & bodies gradually wear and tear over time (see Bale), and a summer off doesn't necessarily reset your body and muscles back to perfect health.

I think gradual wear and tear accumulates over time and it's why quite a lot of players get recurring injuries.

I think since Covid and the fixture back log there, going into a few games being postponed due to the queen passing, and then a few months later the WC mid season, and the increase in stoppage time in games, more fixtures with the nations league, a Europa conference and soon even more CL matches from next year... We should 'expect' to see bigger injury lists around this time of the season. This is the new normal. Expect the same next year and the year after that.

If the rule makes don't want to decrease games, then a quick fix would be to increase squad sizes

posted on 28/2/24

Yes, and that’s all fine but the amount of injuries across the league this season is not normal.

It’s not even up for debate, sorry.

posted on 28/2/24

It’s like talking to Mamba.

posted on 28/2/24

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
It’s like talking to Mamba.
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Oh god don’t. He wrote a long post about how hard it was being right all the time the other day whilst somehow rarely, if ever, being right

posted on 28/2/24

Classic.

posted on 28/2/24

I'm certain United would have fewer injuries than they have if they finished games off sooner and made subs early. Even when we win we seem to be pushed right until the final whistle.

posted on 28/2/24

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 36 minutes ago
I'm certain United would have fewer injuries than they have if they finished games off sooner and made subs early. Even when we win we seem to be pushed right until the final whistle.
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Or if they stop doing simultaneous high press and low block leaving 50meters gaps between the backline and frontline/mf requiring half ur team to sprint back like madmen when your press is bypassed

posted on 28/2/24

What is the normal amount of injuries for this time of the season?

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Not the amount we have had. This is not difficult to understand.

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