posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
West Ham were very good at getting back to defend quickly.
We were too damned slow going forward.
Why no Richarlison until minute 81?
Now then....maybe Kane will want back next season.....he's done all any man could do to help Bayern....and they have one chance left of silverware!
Do you think Levy would deal to get him back? ......
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 4 minutes ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agreed, and a full back who can play either side for better quality cover.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
---
Of course it definitely can happen though I'd say more often than not star players make the team better as long as there isn't a massive gap between them and the rest. Maybe City were better with false 9s instead of Haaland? But no team wouldn't have him. I think he's only an issue if your KdBs and Rodris and Silva's go off the boil. Salah's not held Liverpool back.. a lot comes down to coaching too obviously.
Also, the OP isn't actually saying we need Kane exactly. More that we need a proper striker. A focal point in attack that finishes like half of the good chances by being in the right place all the time but can also create them by sheer ability and physicality. I'm not a huge fan but Toney is a great example of the kind of player we're crying out for.
And yes everyone's going to say look at all the goals scored. But we could've scored a lot more. Also no proper striker makes us predictable and stoppable. Son isn't winning headers so you make sure he doesn't run in behind, Richarlison the opposite. It's straightforward to defend.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
It does feel that we’re constantly trying to tap the ball in the from the back post.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
Maddison was helping this situation early season, seems to have gone off the boil since his injury, now is being subbed even as no help at all but realistically we need a better game plan but this does seem to be an issue with Ange
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 4 minutes ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
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agreed, and a full back who can play either side for better quality cover.
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And another quality GK who is going to rival / pressurize Vicario, Forster needs replacing
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
I think the following team might have come very close to winning the PL This year. Given what we now know about the way Ange plays and how we create so many chances from wide areas.
************Vic***************
**PP**Cuti**VDV**Desinty***
*******Sarr***Biss******
**BJ*****Madders****Son***
************Kane**********
Bench.... Kulu, GLC, PEH, Richie, Skipp, Bents, Davies, Royal, Drag, Timo
Obviously, no Europe & short cup runs would have helped BUT it always feels that Spurs are that one big transfer window outlay from getting over the line. Madders, VDV & BJ have been fantastic signings but offset by the fact we sold Kane to get them
So close but yet so far .... Arsenal took the plunge on Rice etc last summer, didn't weaken their team to do it and look where they are now
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think the following team might have come very close to winning the PL This year. Given what we now know about the way Ange plays and how we create so many chances from wide areas.
************Vic***************
**PP**Cuti**VDV**Desinty***
*******Sarr***Biss******
**BJ*****Madders****Son***
************Kane**********
Bench.... Kulu, GLC, PEH, Richie, Skipp, Bents, Davies, Royal, Drag, Timo
Obviously, no Europe & short cup runs would have helped BUT it always feels that Spurs are that one big transfer window outlay from getting over the line. Madders, VDV & BJ have been fantastic signings but offset by the fact we sold Kane to get them
So close but yet so far.... Arsenal took the plunge on Rice etc last summer, didn't weaken their team to do it and look where they are now
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BJ is the only one I feel we added as a result of Kane leaving. We still had Kane when we brought in VDV and Maddison and were on the verge of keeping him.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
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It was more negative the last few years yeah. Another factor is that Son has started increasing his goal output as he's reached his peak. And we added a good squad option in Richarlison, which I guess we hadn't before. I know he failed last season with 1 goal but that was more a one off.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
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Well, I read on here a few days ago that your current numbers compare favourably to Poch's first season, and also to the season you were trying to chase down Leicester, so no, not just the past years under the more defensive managers. Unless you mean to imply that you were also negative under Poch. In which case, welcome back, Sandy.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.
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Kane might not be the perfect fit for an Ange team but I'm pretty sure we would make it work. It was said that Haaland wasn't a good fit for a Pep team and they made it more than work.
You've got to think with Kane up front we'd convert more of our chances and create a few more. In our injury hit period, no way we lose all of those with Kane playing.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
did you see that ludicrous display last night
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
the thing about Tottenham is they always think theyre the Harlem Globe trotters
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
For the last 4 years we have a net spent of knocking on £100m a year. On players. Plus the stadium.
You people are in total dreamland thinking we can just keep buying players indefinitely.
We're damn lucky to have the squad we've got and should be bloody grateful for it.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
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posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
West Ham were very good at getting back to defend quickly.
We were too damned slow going forward.
Why no Richarlison until minute 81?
Now then....maybe Kane will want back next season.....he's done all any man could do to help Bayern....and they have one chance left of silverware!
Do you think Levy would deal to get him back? ......
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 4 minutes ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agreed, and a full back who can play either side for better quality cover.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
---
Of course it definitely can happen though I'd say more often than not star players make the team better as long as there isn't a massive gap between them and the rest. Maybe City were better with false 9s instead of Haaland? But no team wouldn't have him. I think he's only an issue if your KdBs and Rodris and Silva's go off the boil. Salah's not held Liverpool back.. a lot comes down to coaching too obviously.
Also, the OP isn't actually saying we need Kane exactly. More that we need a proper striker. A focal point in attack that finishes like half of the good chances by being in the right place all the time but can also create them by sheer ability and physicality. I'm not a huge fan but Toney is a great example of the kind of player we're crying out for.
And yes everyone's going to say look at all the goals scored. But we could've scored a lot more. Also no proper striker makes us predictable and stoppable. Son isn't winning headers so you make sure he doesn't run in behind, Richarlison the opposite. It's straightforward to defend.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
It does feel that we’re constantly trying to tap the ball in the from the back post.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
Maddison was helping this situation early season, seems to have gone off the boil since his injury, now is being subbed even as no help at all but realistically we need a better game plan but this does seem to be an issue with Ange
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Phenom (U20037)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Tarrico_sees_red (U5595)
posted 4 minutes ago
Three players in the summer of quality:
Striker
No.6
Winger
Not 5 players of questionable quality. No Werner.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
agreed, and a full back who can play either side for better quality cover.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And another quality GK who is going to rival / pressurize Vicario, Forster needs replacing
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
I think the following team might have come very close to winning the PL This year. Given what we now know about the way Ange plays and how we create so many chances from wide areas.
************Vic***************
**PP**Cuti**VDV**Desinty***
*******Sarr***Biss******
**BJ*****Madders****Son***
************Kane**********
Bench.... Kulu, GLC, PEH, Richie, Skipp, Bents, Davies, Royal, Drag, Timo
Obviously, no Europe & short cup runs would have helped BUT it always feels that Spurs are that one big transfer window outlay from getting over the line. Madders, VDV & BJ have been fantastic signings but offset by the fact we sold Kane to get them
So close but yet so far .... Arsenal took the plunge on Rice etc last summer, didn't weaken their team to do it and look where they are now
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think the following team might have come very close to winning the PL This year. Given what we now know about the way Ange plays and how we create so many chances from wide areas.
************Vic***************
**PP**Cuti**VDV**Desinty***
*******Sarr***Biss******
**BJ*****Madders****Son***
************Kane**********
Bench.... Kulu, GLC, PEH, Richie, Skipp, Bents, Davies, Royal, Drag, Timo
Obviously, no Europe & short cup runs would have helped BUT it always feels that Spurs are that one big transfer window outlay from getting over the line. Madders, VDV & BJ have been fantastic signings but offset by the fact we sold Kane to get them
So close but yet so far.... Arsenal took the plunge on Rice etc last summer, didn't weaken their team to do it and look where they are now
----------------------------------------------------------------------
BJ is the only one I feel we added as a result of Kane leaving. We still had Kane when we brought in VDV and Maddison and were on the verge of keeping him.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was more negative the last few years yeah. Another factor is that Son has started increasing his goal output as he's reached his peak. And we added a good squad option in Richarlison, which I guess we hadn't before. I know he failed last season with 1 goal but that was more a one off.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 43 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't this just show the negative football we played when we had Kane.
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Well, I read on here a few days ago that your current numbers compare favourably to Poch's first season, and also to the season you were trying to chase down Leicester, so no, not just the past years under the more defensive managers. Unless you mean to imply that you were also negative under Poch. In which case, welcome back, Sandy.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
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I read yesterday that you're ahead points-wise and goal-wise of where you were in most seasons when Kane was in the team.
Kane's a fabulous striker, buy it isn't always as simple as one-out one-in and the team automatically improves. And that isn't just as a result of an individual player's capabilities or adaptability either. As counterintuitive as it might sound, having such a devastating footballer can be detrimental to the side.
In cases like this, I always think back to when Madrid signed the original Ronaldo. He was such an effective striker, that almost as soon as he arrived the other stars in the team started to coast in most games, relying on Ronnie to secure the points with the odd bit of genius. It was still enough for the team to win a Liga title, but as soon as the passengers needed to raise their game again for the big matches, they seemed to be stuck in a lower gear.
Something similar happened in reverse when Aragonés decided to ditch Raúl for the Spain side. He was considered untouchable, by far the biggest name and go-to man in the side. Yet it wasn't until he was dropped that the team truly gelled, and went on to win the next three major tournaments.
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I think if Kane were in this team now he'd improve it.
It's not that we're improving because Kane has left us because there are other factors at play you can point to, such as not having any Europe for the first time in ages, the change of manager with a new style from the last 5 or so years, new personnel in the team - a new keeper, new CB, new LB, new creative midfielder, all seemingly good quality at that.
If anything we'd be closer to being in a title race with Kane, in my opinion. Look at how effective his partnership with Son has been over the years for one thing.
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Logic dictates that you would be, although it isn't a given. My point was more that it's not always about the better player overall, but the player who best fits the needs of the team and the system. Partnerships like Kane & Son are important too of course, but imo it's more a case of how all the moving parts fit together.
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Kane might not be the perfect fit for an Ange team but I'm pretty sure we would make it work. It was said that Haaland wasn't a good fit for a Pep team and they made it more than work.
You've got to think with Kane up front we'd convert more of our chances and create a few more. In our injury hit period, no way we lose all of those with Kane playing.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
did you see that ludicrous display last night
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
the thing about Tottenham is they always think theyre the Harlem Globe trotters
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posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
For the last 4 years we have a net spent of knocking on £100m a year. On players. Plus the stadium.
You people are in total dreamland thinking we can just keep buying players indefinitely.
We're damn lucky to have the squad we've got and should be bloody grateful for it.
posted 3 weeks, 6 days ago
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