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INEOS Must Choose Excellence, Not Emotion

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posted on 27/5/24

I am still baffled by that Burnley game, 4 penalty claims and none given and the one that was contact after ball won is given as a pen but direct fouls or clear handball when we have the ball is not a penalty lol.

posted on 27/5/24

Ten Hag beat Liverpool and Coventry in 90 minutes but both games went to extra time and one went to penalties due to corrupt officials. Even the Forest cup game we were denied a stonewall penalty. Rashford cleaned out is no pen as it is Man Utd. Even commentators were saying stonewall pen and were shocked it wasn’t given but I wasn’t as that is what happens nearly every game.

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look at the pens we kept getting denied this season kinsang. I honestly find it baffling the penalties we conceded vs the penalties we won. No foul dives= pens against. Clear fouls against us not given. Heck in the cup final was McTominay cleaned out? AAgainat Coventry the only handball that shpuld have been a penalty was the arm ball out of the box. Remember Liverpool in FA Cup fouled Fernandes and goal stands.

Heck in the league Rashford one on one with the keeper, Walker kicks and pushes him and Man City score at the other end a few seconds later. Any non-corrupt ref sends Walker off and disallows the goal.
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Do you really think we are the only team that feels VAR is against us? Join the queue of 20 EPL clubs!!! But like I say, you are entertaining if nothing else

posted on 27/5/24

https://x.com/Markception/status/1763072265703313877

posted on 27/5/24

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look at the pens we kept getting denied this season kinsang. I honestly find it baffling the penalties we conceded vs the penalties we won. No foul dives= pens against. Clear fouls against us not given. Heck in the cup final was McTominay cleaned out? AAgainat Coventry the only handball that shpuld have been a penalty was the arm ball out of the box. Remember Liverpool in FA Cup fouled Fernandes and goal stands.

Heck in the league Rashford one on one with the keeper, Walker kicks and pushes him and Man City score at the other end a few seconds later. Any non-corrupt ref sends Walker off and disallows the goal.
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Do you really think we are the only team that feels VAR is against us? Join the queue of 20 EPL clubs!!! But like I say, you are entertaining if nothing else
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You’re talking to a telemarketing machine

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 1 minute ago
https://x.com/Markception/status/1763072265703313877
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🤫 maybe you should take this post down, Haf. It's showing that you don't actually know the rules.

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 3 minutes ago
Klopp did naff all in his first 2 seasons.
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Got to two finals without signing anyone.

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So now you're happy being bridesmaids? Didn't your OP title say "choose excellence, not emotion"?
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If you seriously want to compare day one Klopp to ETH then you know nothing about football.

Imagine if ETH was at Dortmund…. he’d probably finish 13th.
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On current form, ETH would win the CL at the weekend.

posted on 27/5/24

Ten Hag would look a genius if correct decisions by officials are made. I honestly think we would gain 20 points a season if they got officials who applied the rules in games. Many times we get denied cornerkicks and freekicks and opposition get them for nothing. I been watching Man Utd games to see refs mainly as well damaging Man Utd. 22/23 season we would have finished around on 90 points just with correct decisions. If you don’t believe me, 2 pens denied against Newcastle at home. 4 denied against Southampton at home. Palace away denied 1 clear pen. That is already 6 points if Fernandes scores.

posted on 27/5/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 3 minutes ago
Klopp did naff all in his first 2 seasons.
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Got to two finals without signing anyone.

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So now you're happy being bridesmaids? Didn't your OP title say "choose excellence, not emotion"?
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If you seriously want to compare day one Klopp to ETH then you know nothing about football.

Imagine if ETH was at Dortmund…. he’d probably finish 13th.
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On current form, ETH would win the CL at the weekend.
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The same ETH that bottled the final against, wait for it, Bottlejob FC Tottenham???

He has to go.

posted on 27/5/24

Hafi vs Culer is a battle for the ages.

posted on 27/5/24

Chelsea away ridiculous pen against in 22/23 denies us 2 points. Villa away freekick wall wrong distance goal against us for free. Fulham away we win but Garnacho cleaned out in box like 10 minutes before he scores. Leeds home draw denied stonewall pen. Tottenham away denied a pen to win it. Brighton away they get a freekick for a dive which leads to corner and goal. Same game Brighton smash our player from behind on edge of the box a few times and no freekick.

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hafi vs Culer is a battle for the ages.
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Haha

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 3 minutes ago
Klopp did naff all in his first 2 seasons.
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Got to two finals without signing anyone.

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So now you're happy being bridesmaids? Didn't your OP title say "choose excellence, not emotion"?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you seriously want to compare day one Klopp to ETH then you know nothing about football.

Imagine if ETH was at Dortmund…. he’d probably finish 13th.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On current form, ETH would win the CL at the weekend.
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The same ETH that bottled the final against, wait for it, Bottlejob FC Tottenham???

He has to go.
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As you mentioned earlier in this very thread, Klopp got to 2 finals. Did he win them? Nope, bottled it. ETH in.

posted on 27/5/24

I doubt ETH is responsible for the injuries, Licha someone fell on his leg.
Now I accept it has, in general, been a poor season in the league, and I accept ETH has been the cause of at least some of that, but you must accept he has done good things also. Antony was a terrible buy but Martinez and Hojlund have been good buys.
The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..

posted on 27/5/24

comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 3 minutes ago
Klopp did naff all in his first 2 seasons.
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Got to two finals without signing anyone.

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So now you're happy being bridesmaids? Didn't your OP title say "choose excellence, not emotion"?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you seriously want to compare day one Klopp to ETH then you know nothing about football.

Imagine if ETH was at Dortmund…. he’d probably finish 13th.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On current form, ETH would win the CL at the weekend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The same ETH that bottled the final against, wait for it, Bottlejob FC Tottenham???

He has to go.
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As you mentioned earlier in this very thread, Klopp got to 2 finals. Did he win them? Nope, bottled it. ETH in.
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He hadn’t spent about 400 million.

Ten Hag would’ve got relegated with that Rodgers side that Klopp took over.

He has to go or INEOS are incompetent.

posted on 27/5/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I doubt ETH is responsible for the injuries, Licha someone fell on his leg.
Now I accept it has, in general, been a poor season in the league, and I accept ETH has been the cause of at least some of that, but you must accept he has done good things also. Antony was a terrible buy but Martinez and Hojlund have been good buys.
The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..
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In general it’s been a poor season in the league??? Are you kidding me?! We finished eighth!! Totally unacceptable and the manager has to go.

Ten Hag should fully take responsibility for the injuries, except one or too like Licha. But even then people forget he’s rushed him back twice and as a result he’s been reinjured.

Ten Hag out.

posted on 27/5/24

One or two *

posted on 27/5/24

The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..
+++

He should have tried this at least 18 times before, this season.

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I doubt ETH is responsible for the injuries, Licha someone fell on his leg.
Now I accept it has, in general, been a poor season in the league, and I accept ETH has been the cause of at least some of that, but you must accept he has done good things also. Antony was a terrible buy but Martinez and Hojlund have been good buys.
The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..
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In general it’s been a poor season in the league??? Are you kidding me?! We finished eighth!! Totally unacceptable and the manager has to go.

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Rubbish. -1 GD and still able to achieve 8th is a feat in itself. ETH in.

posted on 27/5/24

https://youtu.be/zUTUA0TKvfQ?si=JVOdILu7Fcn4r6sY
57:07 went through the player

comment by kinsang (U3346)

posted on 27/5/24

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
I doubt ETH is responsible for the injuries, Licha someone fell on his leg.
Now I accept it has, in general, been a poor season in the league, and I accept ETH has been the cause of at least some of that, but you must accept he has done good things also. Antony was a terrible buy but Martinez and Hojlund have been good buys.
The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..
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I accept you may not agree with this, but is it not reasonable for a fan to feel that what he has done in the last 3 games should have been recognised and implemented much earlier in the season and hence resulted in a higher finishing position as surely fewer points would have been dropped?

Cup wins are enjoyable but it's the league where ETH will ultimately be judged.

I accept that you think he should be given further time, but others will feel that failing to act more quickly (I mean we are talking months) in terms of formation and approach to games has had a bad effect on the team and not excusable?

comment by (U23173)

posted on 27/5/24

comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pierrepoint Strangeways (U9489)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo- maximus mardius cob-onius (U10676)
posted 3 minutes ago
Klopp did naff all in his first 2 seasons.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Got to two finals without signing anyone.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
So now you're happy being bridesmaids? Didn't your OP title say "choose excellence, not emotion"?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you seriously want to compare day one Klopp to ETH then you know nothing about football.

Imagine if ETH was at Dortmund…. he’d probably finish 13th.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On current form, ETH would win the CL at the weekend.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The same ETH that bottled the final against, wait for it, Bottlejob FC Tottenham???

He has to go.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As you mentioned earlier in this very thread, Klopp got to 2 finals. Did he win them? Nope, bottled it. ETH in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He hadn’t spent about 400 million.

Ten Hag would’ve got relegated with that Rodgers side that Klopp took over.

He has to go or INEOS are incompetent.
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If you are not already, why don't you just support Liverpool?

posted on 27/5/24

comment by kinsang (U3346)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 7 minutes ago
I doubt ETH is responsible for the injuries, Licha someone fell on his leg.
Now I accept it has, in general, been a poor season in the league, and I accept ETH has been the cause of at least some of that, but you must accept he has done good things also. Antony was a terrible buy but Martinez and Hojlund have been good buys.
The last three games he has chosen a different formation, and with excellent results..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I accept you may not agree with this, but is it not reasonable for a fan to feel that what he has done in the last 3 games should have been recognised and implemented much earlier in the season and hence resulted in a higher finishing position as surely fewer points would have been dropped?

Cup wins are enjoyable but it's the league where ETH will ultimately be judged.

I accept that you think he should be given further time, but others will feel that failing to act more quickly (I mean we are talking months) in terms of formation and approach to games has had a bad effect on the team and not excusable?
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Perhaps he wanted to but couldn't because the injuries would not let him
Alst the ever changing CBs made Onanas dtart even worse than his nerves did.
Also his season is being talked about as if he didn't win any games, and some against the top teams.
ETH in

posted on 27/5/24

He did win against some top teams.*

posted on 27/5/24

I've noticed that when I talk about last seasons good result, it was Rashy papering over the cracks I've a player was responsible.
When he loses a final for Ajax, it's because he bottled it, nothing to do with the players.

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