Glad to see it starting to come to an end
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hmmm
My take. Yes people committed the offences but the club were complicit in the cover up and not acting as they should have when they first became aware of these offences.
Further exacerbated by drawing out the legal process on some perceived and wholly inaccurate “defence”. There comes an obvious time in all these corporate challenges where you just hold your hand up and settle. As a club we failed to recognise that time and drew out both the scandal and the suffering.
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Largely agree. That said I can somewhat understand a degree of corporate paralysis whilst new offenders and victims were coming out the woodwork on a regular basis. A plc detests any unbounded potential liability, right? And where the responsibility to the owners lies between reputation and reparation when it is a moving target may not be straightforward especially when you are run by an accountant.
On your 'wholly inaccurate' comment I'm not sure if you have information others don't but clearly the club are maintaining their arms length stance. Highly unlikely, but perhaps that might still be legally tested by one of those yet to settle.
In your work if you subcontracted some cladding to a company you sent all that kind of work to and an employee or director was also a director of that subby for a while. Your company took credit for a high profile tower refurb with glossy pics in the annual report then a year or so later it goes up in flames and it turns out they used inferior materials and the contract T&Cs are not 100% black and white and there are huge claims, lives ruined, negative publicity. Meanwhile the subby has changed hands, no longer gets your work, has no assets anyway...? To settle would be a material hit to your profits. What do your shareholders expect?
Not exempting the club. Clearly many mistakes were made.
Don't start me on the lawyers. Their predominant consideration is getting their coin. No way they wanted this tested in court.
It went on for far too long and i while i accept the club didnt want to be associated with it i do not accept their defence.
It happened and people at the club at the time knew it happened and knowledge without action is complicit imo, no matter who they are.
My only sympathy is that people at the club now are kinda brought into it, wasnt their doing.
Twitter has often been a cesspool but the past 24 hours has been horrific. So many people not actually caring about the victims and just want a "get it up ye" comment
Ours would have done the same
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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Oh they absolutely would, I see enough comments about Rangers alleged side of this as well as the Ibrox disaster
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 47 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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well spotted!
comment by Call Sign: Going for 120 (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
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Not to mention the ever present risk of the wife or weans catching you knocking one out
I knew social media would be entirely toxic and ill-balanced. To be honest, I wasn't sure this topic would be treated with sensitivity and perspective even on here.
So I've spent the last few days on FF instead.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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this is true and it disgusts me, a few years ago more information was being fed out about clubs with historical $ex abuse scandals and you could see people giddy about it.
rangers fans wanting more, celtic fans wanting a "see you did it as well"
wanting kids to be molested to satisfy some perverse need to throw shade at their rivals.
comment by PointyBirds - calling all avenging Engels (U21890)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I knew social media would be entirely toxic and ill-balanced. To be honest, I wasn't sure this topic would be treated with sensitivity and perspective even on here.
So I've spent the last few days on FF instead.
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A place of calmness. Noble gentlemen commenting with a fair mind on the goings on in world football with no care for club, country, race, creed, religion or flavour of toilet water
<<Ours would have done the same
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this is true and it disgusts me, a few years ago more information was being fed out about clubs with historical $ex abuse scandals and you could see people giddy about it.
rangers fans wanting more, celtic fans wanting a "see you did it as well"
wanting kids to be molested to satisfy some perverse need to throw shade at their rivals.>>
Bang on - Post of the Year.
It's only April tho so don't you get too giddy.
<Nick Mashiter>
That lad wouldn't have prospered at some of the schools I went to.
comment by Call Sign: Going for 120 (U3627)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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Oh they absolutely would, I see enough comments about Rangers alleged side of this as well as the Ibrox disaster
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
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We are of a similar opinion, I closed down my never used twitter account
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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Well played
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 20 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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Well played
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Happened to me once
Should have waxed
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posted on 2/4/25
Glad to see it starting to come to an end
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Hmmm
My take. Yes people committed the offences but the club were complicit in the cover up and not acting as they should have when they first became aware of these offences.
Further exacerbated by drawing out the legal process on some perceived and wholly inaccurate “defence”. There comes an obvious time in all these corporate challenges where you just hold your hand up and settle. As a club we failed to recognise that time and drew out both the scandal and the suffering.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Largely agree. That said I can somewhat understand a degree of corporate paralysis whilst new offenders and victims were coming out the woodwork on a regular basis. A plc detests any unbounded potential liability, right? And where the responsibility to the owners lies between reputation and reparation when it is a moving target may not be straightforward especially when you are run by an accountant.
On your 'wholly inaccurate' comment I'm not sure if you have information others don't but clearly the club are maintaining their arms length stance. Highly unlikely, but perhaps that might still be legally tested by one of those yet to settle.
In your work if you subcontracted some cladding to a company you sent all that kind of work to and an employee or director was also a director of that subby for a while. Your company took credit for a high profile tower refurb with glossy pics in the annual report then a year or so later it goes up in flames and it turns out they used inferior materials and the contract T&Cs are not 100% black and white and there are huge claims, lives ruined, negative publicity. Meanwhile the subby has changed hands, no longer gets your work, has no assets anyway...? To settle would be a material hit to your profits. What do your shareholders expect?
Not exempting the club. Clearly many mistakes were made.
Don't start me on the lawyers. Their predominant consideration is getting their coin. No way they wanted this tested in court.
posted on 2/4/25
It went on for far too long and i while i accept the club didnt want to be associated with it i do not accept their defence.
It happened and people at the club at the time knew it happened and knowledge without action is complicit imo, no matter who they are.
My only sympathy is that people at the club now are kinda brought into it, wasnt their doing.
posted on 2/4/25
Twitter has often been a cesspool but the past 24 hours has been horrific. So many people not actually caring about the victims and just want a "get it up ye" comment
posted on 2/4/25
Ours would have done the same
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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Oh they absolutely would, I see enough comments about Rangers alleged side of this as well as the Ibrox disaster
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
posted on 2/4/25
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 47 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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well spotted!
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Call Sign: Going for 120 (U3627)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
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Not to mention the ever present risk of the wife or weans catching you knocking one out
posted on 2/4/25
I knew social media would be entirely toxic and ill-balanced. To be honest, I wasn't sure this topic would be treated with sensitivity and perspective even on here.
So I've spent the last few days on FF instead.
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 hours, 3 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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this is true and it disgusts me, a few years ago more information was being fed out about clubs with historical $ex abuse scandals and you could see people giddy about it.
rangers fans wanting more, celtic fans wanting a "see you did it as well"
wanting kids to be molested to satisfy some perverse need to throw shade at their rivals.
posted on 2/4/25
comment by PointyBirds - calling all avenging Engels (U21890)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I knew social media would be entirely toxic and ill-balanced. To be honest, I wasn't sure this topic would be treated with sensitivity and perspective even on here.
So I've spent the last few days on FF instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A place of calmness. Noble gentlemen commenting with a fair mind on the goings on in world football with no care for club, country, race, creed, religion or flavour of toilet water
posted on 2/4/25
<<Ours would have done the same
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this is true and it disgusts me, a few years ago more information was being fed out about clubs with historical $ex abuse scandals and you could see people giddy about it.
rangers fans wanting more, celtic fans wanting a "see you did it as well"
wanting kids to be molested to satisfy some perverse need to throw shade at their rivals.>>
Bang on - Post of the Year.
It's only April tho so don't you get too giddy.
posted on 2/4/25
<Nick Mashiter>
That lad wouldn't have prospered at some of the schools I went to.
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Call Sign: Going for 120 (U3627)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ours would have done the same
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Oh they absolutely would, I see enough comments about Rangers alleged side of this as well as the Ibrox disaster
I'm slowly drifting away from social media. That might just be age as well but I don't have the energy for the nonsense on there anymore
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are of a similar opinion, I closed down my never used twitter account
posted on 2/4/25
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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Well played
posted on 3/4/25
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 20 hours, 16 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
On a complete tangent and to maybe lighten the mood a bit-check the name of the reporter on this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62x9901q92o
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Well played
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Happened to me once
Should have waxed
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