He's another arrogant fool

I'm not a fan of Kyren and there's something about his game that isn't that interesting to watch but I still prefer him to the class of 92, arrogant Aussie boy and Mark Allen.

Murphy spouted a lot of nonsense too, and it appears he was promoted over Taylor last night..

He also said they Zhoa was favourite from esrkuIn the tournament, really Shaou said Trump would win

#early...

I'll try again... Murphy said Trump was favourite, yet then said Zhoa was, with Trump still in the tournament... I agree with you Arsenal, Trump v Zhoa would have been a good final to see, Mark didn't play well

Luca... World number 38

Is there anyone else om here who gets annoyed with Taylor living off the 85 final? It seems like every year him and I presume a reluctant Davis have to talk about or go through it. He's also a poor commentator.
I like Murphy, Hendry, Davis and Virgo in the box.

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted about 8 hours ago
Lol I haven't watched much this season, but what exactly did Wilson do wrong?

He won the World Title last year with admittedly a weak field.

He done ok at the UK and Masters, won some ranking events.

Then his season fell off and he flopped at the World Championship.

Did he do anything else to warrant the hate?

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I just find him annoying. We all have players that rub us up the wrong way. Selby isn't a favourite, but there are definitely a few more than irk me more than him.
Murphy another.
The class of 92 I can take or leave now, I think I just want to see the back of them to be honest

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 hour, 51 minutes ago
Is there anyone else om here who gets annoyed with Taylor living off the 85 final? It seems like every year him and I presume a reluctant Davis have to talk about or go through it. He's also a poor commentator.
I like Murphy, Hendry, Davis and Virgo in the box.
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I bet Steve Davis does... Steve is a 6 time world champion, yet Taylor makes it his business to talk about 85 all the time... Taylor wouldn't get past the second round these days

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
Is there anyone else om here who gets annoyed with Taylor living off the 85 final? It seems like every year him and I presume a reluctant Davis have to talk about or go through it. He's also a poor commentator.
I like Murphy, Hendry, Davis and Virgo in the box.
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Let him have this year, it's 40 years, but let's not discuss anymore until 2035, if Dennis is still living...

It's always over so quickly.

comment by Wetherbyterrier (U2075)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
Is there anyone else om here who gets annoyed with Taylor living off the 85 final? It seems like every year him and I presume a reluctant Davis have to talk about or go through it. He's also a poor commentator.
I like Murphy, Hendry, Davis and Virgo in the box.
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Let him have this year, it's 40 years, but let's not discuss anymore until 2035, if Dennis is still living...
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Joe Johnson winning it the year after was a bigger achievement

I don’t understand the issue with the class of 1992, I don’t mind if you don’t want to see them win, even I think they shouldn’t be winning as much as they are.

But what are they supposed to do? Williams beat Vafaei, Higgins beat Guodong and Ronnie beat Si, all players are way younger than them and should be either in their prime or way closer to their prime than the class of 92.

Should the class of 1992 purposely lose to these younger players to make the younger players feel better about themselves?

The Taylor final will get mentioned every year. Most sports have a unique moment like that which stands out, but for most of us it's like, not that again..............

I know the older players have fond memories of the Crucible etc, it's unique atmosphere etc, but I am now of the feeling that I look forward to it moving to a bigger venue.

I'll be going next year for the first time to soak up that Crucible atmosphere, and it might change my mind, but I think to give more folk a chance to see it, it needs to move.

I'm pretty sure most of the younger players would be on board, and it's more the old guard who would rather stay and I understand that.

I'm not sure that it's playing at the Crucible alone that causes issues for the players, (playing on TV is no big deal anymore, and most have played in cramped conditions in qualifiers etc) but more that it's the WCs themselves, so wherever you play it, it would have that tensions.

But for the meantime, keep it in the UK, and as I have suggested previously, a swap with the Ally Pally wouldn't be a bad thing

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don’t understand the issue with the class of 1992, I don’t mind if you don’t want to see them win, even I think they shouldn’t be winning as much as they are.

But what are they supposed to do? Williams beat Vafaei, Higgins beat Guodong and Ronnie beat Si, all players are way younger than them and should be either in their prime or way closer to their prime than the class of 92.

Should the class of 1992 purposely lose to these younger players to make the younger players feel better about themselves?

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It's not an issue with them per se, good luck to them in playing as as long as they can. There's no doubting their class etc. But it's nice to see newer players come along, but obviously it's up to these newer players to show they can compete and beat them.

And tbf, it's not as if they are mopping up all the titles going, although with some of the comments by the BBC commentary, you think they were winning half the tournaments in the year over the past 5 years or so.

I do feel this could mark a few turning points - more progress from the chinese players such as Zhao, Si and Wu Yize, and perhaps the class of 92 will find it as difficult as they have ever done next season.

I've also had a rethink on Brecel - it's a big season for him. How much is the motivation there, we all know he has interests in other areas. He's always been streaky, so you can see him winning the odd tournament but not necessarily being a top 4 player for consistency reasons

Well yes I agree with that, the commentary team seem to talk about them all the time and also to an extent the fans. I mean you’d think the fans would enjoy a young attacking player winning the world title.

It’s perfectly fine to support your favourite player, but the way they were cheering every bad shot played, didn’t really sit well with me. To be fair, they’ve paid for their ticket and they can support who they like.

Hoping young Stan can be the next good english talent

To have three players at or near the top for 30 odd years is pretty remarkable. Obviously Ronnie looks to have dropped off, partially down to being a bit rusty maybe?

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 17 minutes ago
Well yes I agree with that, the commentary team seem to talk about them all the time and also to an extent the fans. I mean you’d think the fans would enjoy a young attacking player winning the world title.

It’s perfectly fine to support your favourite player, but the way they were cheering every bad shot played, didn’t really sit well with me. To be fair, they’ve paid for their ticket and they can support who they like.

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If you mean in the final, I think they were just wanting a close match, which was understandable and tends to be the case whoever is playing, although Ronnie especially will always have the fans with him.

And I do think Zhao was well received and had a good number of fans appreciating his attacking play etc.

I found the commentary team particularly annoying this season. They over-criticise the younger players, but it's noticeable with the class of 92, they often say, well who am i to tell him what to do - they can still play bad shots and should be called out for them.

Commentary has become very cliched. A crazy shot goes in and it's a brave choice and sticking to his attacking principals. If it doesn't, he's taking liberties or lack of experience or that's what the Crucible does to you.................

Wow, i am a grumpy old man

comment by Wetherbyterrier (U2075)
posted 21 minutes ago
Hoping young Stan can be the next good english talent
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I have said before, not a lot of young talent coming through in the game. maybe the way the game is now, it's way more difficult to just burst onto the scene?

The way Jimmy did, then Hendry, then the class of 92, Selby, Ding, Trump, all made their mark at a young age.

But recently there hasn't been much. Zhao when he won the UK was in his early 20s and of course is now 28, which is considered a youngster these days. Si and Wu Yize are early 20s.

Stan has a lot to proof - not saying he can't be the next big talent, but maybe it just takes a bit longer, as it's a tougher school to come through these days.

comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 12 minutes ago
To have three players at or near the top for 30 odd years is pretty remarkable. Obviously Ronnie looks to have dropped off, partially down to being a bit rusty maybe?

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it's a freak of nature, doubt it will happen again to have 3 of the greatest players all at the same time.

Similar to the great 3 of tennis I guess, altho Fed was a few years ahead.

Ronnie just has his demons - he should have sorted out his cue issues earlier, preparation was just terrible, even by his standards. I never seen anyone play so poorly and reach the semis - a testament to both his class, but how poorly his opponents had played against him.

But you can see in all 3 of them that they aren't quite what they were of say 15 years ago, but they are that good that they can still mix it.

But I think in 2 years, they will be out of top 16.

Soz, typing a lot today - think still got a buzz from this tourney etc

comment by Wetherbyterrier (U2075)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
Hoping young Stan can be the next good english talent
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Young Stan bases his act on Murphy ffs 😂