Just seen this. Interesting. Would be a good move.

Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.
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Dare I say we already have someone like that at the club.

Haha some of the comments

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.
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Dare I say we already have someone like that at the club.
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Maybe, just not convinced by him yet. That would be an interesting front 3 though, for sure.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.
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Dare I say we already have someone like that at the club.
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Ohhhhhh Harry Maguire

These stories are interesting.

The club still has appeal, it still pays high wages and there’s probably something about being part of a project to things around that might be nice to be part of.

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.
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Dare I say we already have someone like that at the club.
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Maybe, just not convinced by him yet. That would be an interesting front 3 though, for sure.
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Yes agreed but I’d certainly give him another season.

I've upgraded my expectations from Champions to an unbeaten season now.

If we get him. Cunha.

Ship deadwood like Rasmus.

Amorim better hit the ground running.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
Would be massive, this one.

Completely changes what we'd need from a CF too imo. Someone decent at football who could get the most out of Cunha and Mbuemo would be more beneficial than an out and out goalscorer.
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Dare I say we already have someone like that at the club.
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Maybe, just not convinced by him yet. That would be an interesting front 3 though, for sure.
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Yes agreed but I’d certainly give him another season.
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As would I. Intelligence and technique there for all to see. Just the lack of pace / explosiveness is a bit of a problem. Would maybe be less so with good movement around him

Do we think Amad is better as a wingback than a 10? I think he can be a WB in Europe but in the prem he looks better as a 10. I could be wrong but I just think he looks less effective there - especially defensively.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
If we get him. Cunha.

Ship deadwood like Rasmus.

Amorim better hit the ground running.
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Agreed.

Looks like Inter are in for Hojlund.

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1929605967018156177?s=46

I'd have Amad as RWB but in a lop sided version of 343. Have Mazraoui as the RCB and you have cover that side that could pretty much make it a back four. Dorgu has the physical attributes to go up and down the opposite flank.

comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 1 minute ago
Do we think Amad is better as a wingback than a 10? I think he can be a WB in Europe but in the prem he looks better as a 10. I could be wrong but I just think he looks less effective there - especially defensively.
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He has looked good at WB. We should certainly use him there against weaker opposition. There are still some question marks about his fitness too which is another reason to get Mbuemo.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
If we get him. Cunha.

Ship deadwood like Rasmus.

Amorim better hit the ground running.
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Agreed.

Looks like Inter are in for Hojlund.

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1929605967018156177?s=46




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Probably not the best of news. If it's an Italian club it'll be a loan with an option to buy or some shiiiiite like that

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
If we get him. Cunha.

Ship deadwood like Rasmus.

Amorim better hit the ground running.
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Agreed.

Looks like Inter are in for Hojlund.

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1929605967018156177?s=46




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He was due to fly there today but missed his flight

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posted 26 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 1 minute ago
If we get him. Cunha.

Ship deadwood like Rasmus.

Amorim better hit the ground running.
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Agreed.

Looks like Inter are in for Hojlund.

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1929605967018156177?s=46




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He was due to fly there today but missed his flight
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He was too busy wrestling with the air traffic controller

It would be foolish to comment before Cloggy has his say

I was keen on Mbeumo and then listened to a geeky United podcast where the hosts were very anti this potential transfer. Basically, the argument is he's a good player but not an elite one (and his goalscoring this year looks like a statistical blip because he's got about double his xG this season but never exceeded his xG in previous years). He'd therefore be a good floor raising squad player if he was recruited at a low price (e.g. Mazraoui fee) but at £50m or more, he's taking up too big a slice of the pie and preventing us from signing the ceiling raising players that will make us a better team. Essentially, you can buy players of his level, they argue, at a lower price if you shop in Ligue 1.

There's a limit to their statistics-based assessments. In particular, that it is a view of the world based on patterns in the past, which therefore cannot predict change in the future. It's no good at telling us what a different coach believes he can unlock in the player's raw skill set, or how he sees an opportunity to use him in a specific tactical system in conjunction with other players. And the same statisticians have over the last couple of years had an over-optimistic view of Hojlund and an over-pessimistic view of Amad.

But it's a solid, rational argument that is worth considering. They're very anti-selling Bruno too, by the way.

* source: Talk of the Devils podcast.

comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 1 minute ago
Do we think Amad is better as a wingback than a 10? I think he can be a WB in Europe but in the prem he looks better as a 10. I could be wrong but I just think he looks less effective there - especially defensively.
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I dunno, I’ve kind of been more impressed with his attacking games when he’s played as a RWB, been able to get fully involved in one two’s up and down the line and then in the space left by the opposition when he gets to overlap, meaning he’s running at their box more often rather than just being squared up at the edge of their box for a standing start 1v1.

Essentially, you can buy players of his level, they argue, at a lower price if you shop in Ligue 1.
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Maybe but not PL proven like him

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 minutes ago
I was keen on Mbeumo and then listened to a geeky United podcast where the hosts were very anti this potential transfer. Basically, the argument is he's a good player but not an elite one (and his goalscoring this year looks like a statistical blip because he's got about double his xG this season but never exceeded his xG in previous years). He'd therefore be a good floor raising squad player if he was recruited at a low price (e.g. Mazraoui fee) but at £50m or more, he's taking up too big a slice of the pie and preventing us from signing the ceiling raising players that will make us a better team. Essentially, you can buy players of his level, they argue, at a lower price if you shop in Ligue 1.

There's a limit to their statistics-based assessments. In particular, that it is a view of the world based on patterns in the past, which therefore cannot predict change in the future. It's no good at telling us what a different coach believes he can unlock in the player's raw skill set, or how he sees an opportunity to use him in a specific tactical system in conjunction with other players. And the same statisticians have over the last couple of years had an over-optimistic view of Hojlund and an over-pessimistic view of Amad.

But it's a solid, rational argument that is worth considering. They're very anti-selling Bruno too, by the way.

* source: Talk of the Devils podcast.
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Cheers RR, will give a listen.

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by The Gentleman Entrepreneur (U13709)
posted 1 minute ago
Do we think Amad is better as a wingback than a 10? I think he can be a WB in Europe but in the prem he looks better as a 10. I could be wrong but I just think he looks less effective there - especially defensively.
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He has looked good at WB. We should certainly use him there against weaker opposition. There are still some question marks about his fitness too which is another reason to get Mbuemo.
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Fair one.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 7 minutes ago
I was keen on Mbeumo and then listened to a geeky United podcast where the hosts were very anti this potential transfer. Basically, the argument is he's a good player but not an elite one (and his goalscoring this year looks like a statistical blip because he's got about double his xG this season but never exceeded his xG in previous years). He'd therefore be a good floor raising squad player if he was recruited at a low price (e.g. Mazraoui fee) but at £50m or more, he's taking up too big a slice of the pie and preventing us from signing the ceiling raising players that will make us a better team. Essentially, you can buy players of his level, they argue, at a lower price if you shop in Ligue 1.

There's a limit to their statistics-based assessments. In particular, that it is a view of the world based on patterns in the past, which therefore cannot predict change in the future. It's no good at telling us what a different coach believes he can unlock in the player's raw skill set, or how he sees an opportunity to use him in a specific tactical system in conjunction with other players. And the same statisticians have over the last couple of years had an over-optimistic view of Hojlund and an over-pessimistic view of Amad.

But it's a solid, rational argument that is worth considering. They're very anti-selling Bruno too, by the way.

* source: Talk of the Devils podcast.
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He did also have the highest xA in the league too. And he's only 25, so perhaps it shouldn't be surprising that he took a step forward in the last year. Particularly when the team play wasn't geared so much towards getting Toney on the score sheet and Mbeumo was given more of a chance to flourish