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posted on 6/6/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we all just given up on Mainoo by the way? Does he not get in anyone’s XI??
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On the bench
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If he gets fit and stays healthy he won't stay on the bench for long.

As an out and out CM he's got by far the highest ceiling at the club. We just need to get him fit and stay injury free.
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He’ll certainly get game time, but I’m not convinced he’s good enough to hold down a starting place. Yoro has afar higher ceiling imo, Mainoo isn’t all that special. Can see Yoro right at the top, can’t say I see that for Kobbie, hopefully I’m proved wrong on him.
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Yoro is a CB????

Also how many players can you remember we've had that are Kobbie's age that have come up with the big moments he already has?

Cup final winner against Pep's City. Clutch moments against the dippers and Lyon. Last minute solo wonder goal at Wolves in the 4-3 game.

His potential is through the roof. If you can't see that then I don't know what else I can tell you.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we all just given up on Mainoo by the way? Does he not get in anyone’s XI??
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On the bench
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If he gets fit and stays healthy he won't stay on the bench for long.

As an out and out CM he's got by far the highest ceiling at the club. We just need to get him fit and stay injury free.
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He’ll certainly get game time, but I’m not convinced he’s good enough to hold down a starting place. Yoro has afar higher ceiling imo, Mainoo isn’t all that special. Can see Yoro right at the top, can’t say I see that for Kobbie, hopefully I’m proved wrong on him.
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Yoro is a CB????

Also how many players can you remember we've had that are Kobbie's age that have come up with the big moments he already has?

Cup final winner against Pep's City. Clutch moments against the dippers and Lyon. Last minute solo wonder goal at Wolves in the 4-3 game.

His potential is through the roof. If you can't see that then I don't know what else I can tell you.
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And that’s before we even talk about his urban appeal.

posted on 6/6/25

------Kobbie----Wharton

---Bruno + Cunha / Mbuemo

--------------Gyokeres


I'd have preferred just to sign one of Cunha/Mbuemo and gone all out for Wharton.

posted on 6/6/25

I have no doubt Mainoo is a special talent. But there are reasonable questions. Firstly, he doesn't have great pace, in a league where more and more teams are stacking their midfields with monster athletes. Secondly, if we're talking about him as a complete midfielder, he doesn't (yet) have a very expansive range of passing. He's a fine dribbler, with incredible composure and reading of the game for his age.

I'm not playing his talent down, as he's the United player I'm most invested in seeing thrive at our club. But I can see why he hasn't been first choice under Amorim this season. At the moment Casemiro and Bruno are better at passing from deep into attack. Ugarte and Collyer cover more ground and win possession better.

comment by T-Bag (U11806)

posted on 6/6/25

Wharton does seem like he'll be a Carrick type player that just gets you up the pitch quietly

posted on 6/6/25

Wharton looks excellent, but if we're planning to have Bruno in midfield, and especially if we want Mainoo to get minutes as a CM, they really need an Amadou Onana type player as a partner: someone who can run fast, a lot.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
I have no doubt Mainoo is a special talent. But there are reasonable questions. Firstly, he doesn't have great pace, in a league where more and more teams are stacking their midfields with monster athletes. Secondly, if we're talking about him as a complete midfielder, he doesn't (yet) have a very expansive range of passing. He's a fine dribbler, with incredible composure and reading of the game for his age.

I'm not playing his talent down, as he's the United player I'm most invested in seeing thrive at our club. But I can see why he hasn't been first choice under Amorim this season. At the moment Casemiro and Bruno are better at passing from deep into attack. Ugarte and Collyer cover more ground and win possession better.
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But Bruno isn't an orthodox CM nor does he have great pace either.

In the team I posted above we have two natural midfielders + Bruno in his best position.

In the team we are more likely to go with which most people are in agreement with.....we will have Bruno slightly out of position plus an issue with who we pair him with.

Either route is a big improvement on what we have seen this season......I just prefer players playing in their natural positions as much as possible. I also think Kobbie is far more talented than our fans realise and are being slightly influenced by his injury hit season.

We have to trust Ruben though and go with him. I will just be absolutely gutted if we end up losing Kobbie to Chelsea / Bayern / Madrid or somewhere like that. I believe he's got the potential to play for any club in world football in midfield.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Wharton looks excellent, but if we're planning to have Bruno in midfield, and especially if we want Mainoo to get minutes as a CM, they really need an Amadou Onana type player as a partner: someone who can run fast, a lot.
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I feel Bruno moving back into midfield this season just ended was due to more woeful decisions in the market (Ugarte) rather it being because he plays better there.

Does seem like Kobbie is going to benched and for me that's a real shame and a waste. Wouldn't shock me if he ends up being sold and that would be an absolutely horrendous decision

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by He’s French, He’s Flash… (U9335)
posted 4 minutes ago
Have we all just given up on Mainoo by the way? Does he not get in anyone’s XI??
----------------------------------------------------------------------
On the bench
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If he gets fit and stays healthy he won't stay on the bench for long.

As an out and out CM he's got by far the highest ceiling at the club. We just need to get him fit and stay injury free.
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He’ll certainly get game time, but I’m not convinced he’s good enough to hold down a starting place. Yoro has afar higher ceiling imo, Mainoo isn’t all that special. Can see Yoro right at the top, can’t say I see that for Kobbie, hopefully I’m proved wrong on him.
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Yoro is a CB????

Also how many players can you remember we've had that are Kobbie's age that have come up with the big moments he already has?

Cup final winner against Pep's City. Clutch moments against the dippers and Lyon. Last minute solo wonder goal at Wolves in the 4-3 game.

His potential is through the roof. If you can't see that then I don't know what else I can tell you.
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Also invisible or awful in many games. I don’t think his potential is nearly as high as you think, sure he’s got some talent, but I don’t see him becoming a top level midfielder with what I’ve seen from him. Just my opinion, kid may go on and prove me wrong. And I hope he does.,

posted on 6/6/25

Bruno to midfield happened because 1) he instantly makes our ball progression from midfield to attack work a lot better 2) although his pace isn't great, his work rate is second to none, so he's probably second only to Ugarte in terms of covering space out of possession and 3) as Rosso pointed out to you the other day, he's still able to join the attack from CM and to record a similar number of goal involvements as he does when starting as a 10.

I absolutely love Mainoo. But he doesn't offer as much as Bruno out of possession or on the ball in CM... YET! We should have loads of patience with him though. He's still a kid and way ahead of schedule.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
Bruno to midfield happened because 1) he instantly makes our ball progression from midfield to attack work a lot better 2) although his pace isn't great, his work rate is second to none, so he's probably second only to Ugarte in terms of covering space out of possession and 3) as Rosso pointed out to you the other day, he's still able to join the attack from CM and to record a similar number of goal involvements as he does when starting as a 10.

I absolutely love Mainoo. But he doesn't offer as much as Bruno out of possession or on the ball in CM... YET! We should have loads of patience with him though. He's still a kid and way ahead of schedule.
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He's getting to the point of his career where he needs to be playing though. I don't see him as permanent sub and I don't think him and his aren't do either.

Bruno never getting injured and always playing 90 mins is a big problem for Kobbie in this new system. As I can't see many games where we could start them both in CM and get away with it. Possibly against the bottom 3/4 teams we could but after that we'd be struggling.

Don't be shocked if likes of Bayern n Madrid come sniffing. I think they will see the potential he has.

posted on 6/6/25

Agent do either*

posted on 6/6/25

Was it you or someone else who pointed out earlier that Scholes at this age wasn't getting that many games?

Personally, I think the system is more of a problem for Mainoo than Bruno. His qualities would be better utilised and his relative shortcomings less exposed in a three-man midfield. That's been an issue for a few of our talented players over the years (not least Pogba) when we've had a series of coaches who prefer using two CMs.

posted on 6/6/25

Don't be shocked if likes of Bayern n Madrid come sniffing. I think they will see the potential he has.



Think that’s unlikely

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't be shocked if likes of Bayern n Madrid come sniffing. I think they will see the potential he has.



Think that’s unlikely
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If we get offered a swap deal involving Camavinga, that would soften the blow.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 4 minutes ago
Don't be shocked if likes of Bayern n Madrid come sniffing. I think they will see the potential he has.



Think that’s unlikely
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If we get offered a swap deal involving Camavinga, that would soften the blow.
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😁

posted on 6/6/25

Bruno will move into Cunha/Mbeumo position at times if one of them is out, or if they are subbed, or if the CF is subbed and one of them go up the middle.

Mainoo will get plenty of game time imo, same as Mount (when fit).

Amorim is going to be using every sub in most games imo once we have more players that suit this system, he wants 100% intensity for 90 minutes.

It’s good that we are finally having 2 decent players fighting for the same positions.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Baz tard - ineos your face (U19119)
posted 59 minutes ago
Don't be shocked if likes of Bayern n Madrid come sniffing. I think they will see the potential he has.



Think that’s unlikely
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Chelsea seemingly the most interested as of now. Caicedo + Mainoo has potential to be a PL title winning
midfield.

Genuinely think you're massively underestimating how good this lad is purely for the fact he had a very difficult stop and start season in a woeful Utd team.

Selling him to Chelsea would be absolutely ridiculous for me. Cole Palmer mkII only this side it's the other side of the city doing the selling.

posted on 6/6/25

I don't want to sell him, first because he's a good player, but also he came from our youth team.
Many also regret selling McT including me, and Mainoo is better than him imo.

posted on 6/6/25

Just a curveball here but why not Mainoo in the back three as the CCB in some games? Basically he'd be playing DM anyway but allows Amorim to keep his 343. Bruno and Ugarte in front of him providing the legs.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 4 hours, 47 minutes ago
I'll hopeful it will look something like this:

-------------------------New GK-----------
---------Maz-----------De Ligt---------Yoro
Amad/Dalot----Bruno------new CM--------Dorgu/Shaw
------------Amad/Mbeumo----------Cunha--------
---------------------------New CF--------------------------


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If we have Bruno as one of a midfield two then we will lose more games than we win.

Bruno is not a CM player.

posted on 6/6/25

Exactly VC. It is what I had in my head, hence the OP.
It means either Cunha or Mbeumo can play their natural position. So how to fit them in.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
Wharton looks excellent, but if we're planning to have Bruno in midfield, and especially if we want Mainoo to get minutes as a CM, they really need an Amadou Onana type player as a partner: someone who can run fast, a lot.
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People need to understand this. In a perfect world we need 2 but for Bruno in midfield, we need 1 and hope Ugarte settles down. I still like him a lot.

posted on 6/6/25

comment by FFS Mike. (U1170)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago
Bruno will move into Cunha/Mbeumo position at times if one of them is out, or if they are subbed, or if the CF is subbed and one of them go up the middle.

Mainoo will get plenty of game time imo, same as Mount (when fit).

Amorim is going to be using every sub in most games imo once we have more players that suit this system, he wants 100% intensity for 90 minutes.

It’s good that we are finally having 2 decent players fighting for the same positions.
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Agree with this. And if we don't find a credible striker this window, there's a good chance Mbeumo or Cunha plays at 9, so there's a spot open behind.

posted on 6/6/25

Chelsea seemingly the most interested as of now. Caicedo + Mainoo has potential to be a PL title winning
midfield.


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No creativity in that midfield. Not sure how that would be title winning.

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