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Luckily UKPLC is run in an old Spectrum ZX found in a cupboard during the Thatcher era. The Ruskies, Chinese and Nigel Farage will never be able to infiltrate it.

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You know that your not far wrong there!

comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexit has been an economic fiasco for this country yet you believe Farage is the man to get us onto the path to growth, you're not a serious person.
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Well Starmer, Reeves & the left clearly are not also.

So like I have been trying to say

I think we need Reform of our political system with or with out Farage
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So Reform the party or real political reform?
If the latter, I'd agree with you. I'd like to hear which reforms you'd be in favour of though. Because most of your posts are just gripes against Labour. IMO.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexit has been an economic fiasco for this country yet you believe Farage is the man to get us onto the path to growth, you're not a serious person.
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Well Starmer, Reeves & the left clearly are not also.

So like I have been trying to say

I think we need Reform of our political system with or with out Farage
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Not also what?

What changes would you make to our political system to improve it.
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Hey you.

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexit has been an economic fiasco for this country yet you believe Farage is the man to get us onto the path to growth, you're not a serious person.
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Well Starmer, Reeves & the left clearly are not also.

So like I have been trying to say

I think we need Reform of our political system with or with out Farage
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Not also what?

What changes would you make to our political system to improve it.
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They could take back are country for starters
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Whaaaat?
You Irish or wut?

Welcome to truth social

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
Brexit has been an economic fiasco for this country yet you believe Farage is the man to get us onto the path to growth, you're not a serious person.
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Well Starmer, Reeves & the left clearly are not also.

So like I have been trying to say

I think we need Reform of our political system with or with out Farage
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So Reform the party or real political reform?
If the latter, I'd agree with you. I'd like to hear which reforms you'd be in favour of though. Because most of your posts are just gripes against Labour. IMO.
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Every time he says this country needs Reform with a capital R, his credibility drops several notches

Geezer, get with the programme

soq,

Im sorry i cant make any apologies for my view of this Labour administration, but the Tories likewise

My views regarding a form of Reform - brief

I think we should have a publically agreed manifesto that is based upon what is best for the whole country over a 10 - 20 year expectation- aim.

This manifesto should be non- negotiable and each party who come into power must adhere to the stated principle of the manifesto.

This manifesto should have governance over the key tenants of UK life & security.

Finance, Health, Education, Energy security, Justice, Defence, Transportation and so on.

I think our political thinking and structure is to short term and open to abuse.

comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 19 minutes ago
Geezer, get with the programme
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GBeebies?

yeah

comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 14 minutes ago
soq,

Im sorry i cant make any apologies for my view of this Labour administration, but the Tories likewise

My views regarding a form of Reform - brief

I think we should have a publically agreed manifesto that is based upon what is best for the whole country over a 10 - 20 year expectation- aim.

This manifesto should be non- negotiable and each party who come into power must adhere to the stated principle of the manifesto.

This manifesto should have governance over the key tenants of UK life & security.

Finance, Health, Education, Energy security, Justice, Defence, Transportation and so on.

I think our political thinking and structure is to short term and open to abuse.
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A publicly agreed manifesto?
Like a list of stuff you want and vote on each separately?
Sounds like a lot of little Brexit referenda.
Do you think that would be good for the country? People are still fighting over Brexit.

comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 7 minutes ago
yeah
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I've just seen your latest brainfart article on Iran. It almost amused me as much as this one

A publicly agreed manifesto?

Like a list of stuff you want and vote on each separately?

Sounds like a lot of little Brexit referenda.

Do you think that would be good for the country?

People are still fighting over Brexit.

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Imo, we need to change in this country, we are becoming hopeless.

Our politicians for decades have refused to put country before politics.

Starmer actually stated that

Brexit?

My opinion is democracy must prevail, irrelevant of the outcome.

The remainers have refused to accept that democracy must prevail, the same will happen at the next election.

Reform, personally I would like us to totally reinvent how we are governed.

We should first agree a mechanism that would establish an a overarching manifesto that would underpin Uk life & security.

This manifesto would be non negotiable, it may have to revised every 10 years, it would enable long term stability.

The politicians would oversee the management of such a manifesto and would bound to adhere to the principles of the charter.

Im not suggesting an endless stream of referendums, but a set of policies for each department that provided a level of state function that were in the UK populations best interests.

I think we should have a stated expectation of how each state department is run and a defined set of parameters of what each department must provide.

We should put the UK & its population first considering each elected government is spending its tax payers money.

Something like that?

Country before politics

comment by ifarka, (U8182)
posted 6 hours, 2 minutes ago
Oh, so you think using your political mandate to shaw up your vote is in the best interests of the UK is a good thing?

Come on democracy doesnt work like that ?

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The English language doesn’t work like that.

In the 2024 election, Labour won 411 seats with just 33% of the national vote, much of that vote was lent out of utter dissatisfaction & disgust for what the Tories had done in their 14 years of power.

But 67% of the country either did not vote for them or didnt vote at all

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Oh damn! They were elected via corruption? Please tell us oh smart one, which party had a higher % of the UK population voting for them over Labour?

comment by #01 🟥⬜⬛ House ~ Let's Just Get Another Manager... 🤣 (U17162)
posted 2 minutes ago
In the 2024 election, Labour won 411 seats with just 33% of the national vote, much of that vote was lent out of utter dissatisfaction & disgust for what the Tories had done in their 14 years of power.

But 67% of the country either did not vote for them or didnt vote at all

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Oh damn! They were elected via corruption? Please tell us oh smart one, which party had a higher % of the UK population voting for them over Labour?
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"Brexit?

My opinion is democracy must prevail, irrelevant of the outcome.

The remainers have refused to accept that democracy must prevail, the same will happen at the next election."

It's only democracy or legitimate when it suits

Shame on anyone voting for reform i say , disgusting 🤮

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by #01 🟥⬜⬛ House ~ Let's Just Get Another Manager... 🤣 (U17162)
posted 2 minutes ago
In the 2024 election, Labour won 411 seats with just 33% of the national vote, much of that vote was lent out of utter dissatisfaction & disgust for what the Tories had done in their 14 years of power.

But 67% of the country either did not vote for them or didnt vote at all

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Oh damn! They were elected via corruption? Please tell us oh smart one, which party had a higher % of the UK population voting for them over Labour?
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"Brexit?

My opinion is democracy must prevail, irrelevant of the outcome.

The remainers have refused to accept that democracy must prevail, the same will happen at the next election."

It's only democracy or legitimate when it suits
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I agree. I voted remain.

Brexiteers thought they were 'getting their sovereignty back', 'getting their country back'. People voted Brexit because they were spoonfed the hilarious notion that we'd all be better off. We'd take back control and all that nonsense led by Farage and Boris the great leaders of our times.

So Brexit happened and none of the above happened. Instead we're wrapped up in more bureaucratic red tape than ever. Farage may be a blight on this country, but he is really good at telling people what they want to hear, even if it's a lie / false.

Always odd how some people like OP can spend so long thinking and talking about stuff like this and make it their whole personality but still come to some really wild and silly conclusions.

Labour have not been brilliant. And I don't like the way Starmer sucks up to Trump like a puppy dog.

But it is still infinitely better than the Tories, or god forbid Reform.

Said it before....Nige' will be Emperor.....it is written

What has Starmer said about Trumps latest war stance which has little to do with him...bet he's backed it.

Watch out for sleeper cells causing carnage on US soil now

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 hours, 25 minutes ago
Labour have not been brilliant. And I don't like the way Starmer sucks up to Trump like a puppy dog.

But it is still infinitely better than the Tories, or god forbid Reform.
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Haven't been brilliant is the understatement of the century. Labour have been utterly inept and ruinous so far and have made the woeful Tories look somehow competent. Are people that beaten down by terrible leadership that they're actually justifying these clowns in some way lol

comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 hours, 25 minutes ago
Labour have not been brilliant. And I don't like the way Starmer sucks up to Trump like a puppy dog.

But it is still infinitely better than the Tories, or god forbid Reform.
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Haven't been brilliant is the understatement of the century. Labour have been utterly inept and ruinous so far and have made the woeful Tories look somehow competent. Are people that beaten down by terrible leadership that they're actually justifying these clowns in some way lol
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Can you list some tangible things that have made the Tories look competent?

Is it the NHS waiting lists going down? Perhaps the investment in infrastructure? The better than expected growth? The taking to task of water companies?

Which things are you specifically talking about?

I would personally disagree with that quite strongly, I don't think they've been particularly inspired and the bar is low, but they're still much better than the openly crooked Tories who have been selling off public services to their mates who then gut them.

The country will be paying the price for years and years to come for that period of Tory leadership whereas we haven't experienced anything close to that under Starmer.

That said i am very disappointed by his stance on Israel and Iran, but i can't imagine it would be any better under the Tories either.

comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Superb - We've won it all !!! (U6486)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 13 hours, 25 minutes ago
Labour have not been brilliant. And I don't like the way Starmer sucks up to Trump like a puppy dog.

But it is still infinitely better than the Tories, or god forbid Reform.
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Haven't been brilliant is the understatement of the century. Labour have been utterly inept and ruinous so far and have made the woeful Tories look somehow competent. Are people that beaten down by terrible leadership that they're actually justifying these clowns in some way lol
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Can you list some tangible things that have made the Tories look competent?

Is it the NHS waiting lists going down? Perhaps the investment in infrastructure? The better than expected growth? The taking to task of water companies?

Which things are you specifically talking about?
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This isn’t rhetorical btw, I’m actually interested.