They are both as bad as each other.
I have many friends that are Utd fans and they have all said Young has been a let down.
Downing
Charlie Adam
Andy Carrol
Henderson
So much spent on such distinctly average managers.
I wonder how many LFC fans are beginning to have doubts about 'king' Kenny now
Sir Bubbly
Your comment has nothing to do with this article
You are starting to produce the same parp that the Arsenal fans do. Was that comment a copy and paste one from the Arsenal board?
Neither are that bad, Downing clearly isn't doing the business at the moment but he is better than he is showing HOWEVER not much better - he has been average/good throught his career, never great
Downing played well today. It just shows how much better he can be when he has a player in the box. Just think how good he could be if we could get more players in the box, ie. a late Stevie G run.
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
Downing played well today. It just shows how much better he can be when he has a player in the box. Just think how good he could be if we could get more players in the box, ie. a late Stevie G run.
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agree, best player on the pitch... but should have scored from that gerrard pass... he tried to pass it into the net, poor shot lacked direction and power.
The fact that Capello thinks he's 'world class' is enough - ergo, distinctly average.
Hmmm we keep missing good chances every match... Yeah it must me Downings fault.
Both Downing and Young are rubbish. I hate to say this but the difference is between Dalglish and Ferguson.
Goes to show what these wums are really like hey, quite frankly a bit stupid.
Downing had a good game, it was our inability not to finish of our many chances yet again.
I think it is looking inevitable that we will be buying a striker in January.
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
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On what basis? Ashley Young has better career stats and has done more in a handful of Man Utd appearances than Downing has done for Liverpool despite suffering injuries.
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hmmm we keep missing good chances every match... Yeah it must me Downings fault.
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I've been saying this from the start of the season but it just isn't sticking. Don't waste your energy. Especially on that idiot Zabi - he has no idea.
comment by Berbnanidez (U1311)
posted 54 seconds ago
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
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On what basis? Ashley Young has better career stats and has done more in a handful of Man Utd appearances than Downing has done for Liverpool despite suffering injuries.
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Based on him playing better than young, throughout his career.
Charlionso, who do you think you will be able to get, that would fit into Liverpool's system?
Based on him playing better than young, throughout his career.
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Despite scoring less goals and having less assists?
Charlionso, who do you think you will be able to get, that would fit into Liverpool's system?
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We need someone in the ilk of Hernandez, someone who has quick reactions and has the finishing instincts that Fowler did.
I don't think it will come cheap though, but I'm sure the owners will have realised we need this now and will invest.
Remember Man City got the likes of Silva and Tevez when they weren't in the Champions League and we may have to offer someone a pretty decent wage packet if it means getting someone who can make the difference between putting games to rest much earlier and dropping needless points time after time.
I'd like to see Cavani personally.
You only scored 1 goal was cos of Rovers brilliant defence it had nothing to do with Carroll being rubbish and you wasteing 50 million pounds on average players
Don't include Downing in that good player
Lets be honest none of us (that are English) were overwhelmed when he got picked for the national side prior to him playing for Liverpool, he is ok, nothing more nothing less - Certainly not the type of Mata/Silva player we are crying out for
Certainly not the type of Mata/Silva player we are crying out for
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We have plenty of 'creators' though, but seriously lack finishers.
I find it funny when these wums (children) keep posting their drivel saying how bad Adam, Downing, Henderson etc are when in truth we are creating plenty of chances in just about evey game this season so far.
We also have the best defence in the league, and bar the unfortunate own goal, have looked solid there again today. The problem is finishing the chances off. When there is only Suarez of real quality upfront, even with some of the magical stuff he can produce out of nothing, we lack a dynamic player to really get between there defence and finish things off, and take the pressure off Suarez all the time.
Carroll is a forward and not really the best partner for Suarez, and only really effective in certain types of games, we need a proper poacher.
The only proper poacher in the league is Hernandez IMO - he was a great find for them.
Downing is a very "English" winger, he puts the ball in the box and in the air, Carroll is either not the header of the ball we thought or teams are so wary of him he is getting marked out of the game, either way Downing's type of delivery is not producing the goods.
With the forward players we have at the club goals should not be a problem, most of Kuyt's goals come from poacher positions but it's just not happening for us, Bellamy is a good goal scorer as is Maxi and Suarez scored shed loads in Holland - Will another striker really make that much difference? We can't even play all the players we have in the squad at the moment
Sorry super injunction but i feel downing crosses are some of the worst ive seen, he cant even shoot properly without skying it 9/10
I'm not saying they are great crosses more pointing out that it's all he does, never pulls the ball back or dribbles in to the box, it's very one dimensional - I would say Johnson and Enrique put more variety in when they get down the line
Downing's crosses are fine and have been this season. Also Adam's passes have been fine and our midfield has been fine. Suarez' finishign has been terrible, as has Carroll's and Kuyt's. We can't keep blaming the creators when the creators are nearly making twenty shots per game.
I've been saying this since the start of the season and I don't know how long we have to go getting over twenty shots a game before people stop blaming the creators and start blaming the people not finishing the chances. I mean it's common sence. I know people like to jump on bandwagons but this is getting ridiculous now. Watch the game and open your eyes!
Downing is so average, Young is better, Liverpool fans that think otherwise, are seriously deluded and this is coming from a Liverpool fan.
Downing's crosses are fine and have been this season. Also Adam's passes have been fine and our midfield has been fine. Suarez' finishign has been terrible, as has Carroll's and Kuyt's. We can't keep blaming the creators when the creators are nearly making twenty shots per game.
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posted on 26/12/11
They are both as bad as each other.
I have many friends that are Utd fans and they have all said Young has been a let down.
posted on 26/12/11
Downing
Charlie Adam
Andy Carrol
Henderson
So much spent on such distinctly average managers.
I wonder how many LFC fans are beginning to have doubts about 'king' Kenny now
posted on 26/12/11
Sir Bubbly
Your comment has nothing to do with this article
You are starting to produce the same parp that the Arsenal fans do. Was that comment a copy and paste one from the Arsenal board?
posted on 26/12/11
Neither are that bad, Downing clearly isn't doing the business at the moment but he is better than he is showing HOWEVER not much better - he has been average/good throught his career, never great
posted on 26/12/11
Downing played well today. It just shows how much better he can be when he has a player in the box. Just think how good he could be if we could get more players in the box, ie. a late Stevie G run.
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
posted on 26/12/11
Downing played well today. It just shows how much better he can be when he has a player in the box. Just think how good he could be if we could get more players in the box, ie. a late Stevie G run.
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agree, best player on the pitch... but should have scored from that gerrard pass... he tried to pass it into the net, poor shot lacked direction and power.
posted on 26/12/11
The fact that Capello thinks he's 'world class' is enough - ergo, distinctly average.
posted on 26/12/11
Hmmm we keep missing good chances every match... Yeah it must me Downings fault.
posted on 26/12/11
Both Downing and Young are rubbish. I hate to say this but the difference is between Dalglish and Ferguson.
posted on 26/12/11
Goes to show what these wums are really like hey, quite frankly a bit stupid.
Downing had a good game, it was our inability not to finish of our many chances yet again.
I think it is looking inevitable that we will be buying a striker in January.
posted on 26/12/11
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
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On what basis? Ashley Young has better career stats and has done more in a handful of Man Utd appearances than Downing has done for Liverpool despite suffering injuries.
posted on 26/12/11
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 2 minutes ago
Hmmm we keep missing good chances every match... Yeah it must me Downings fault.
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I've been saying this from the start of the season but it just isn't sticking. Don't waste your energy. Especially on that idiot Zabi - he has no idea.
posted on 26/12/11
comment by Berbnanidez (U1311)
posted 54 seconds ago
A far better player than Ashley Young, that's for sure.
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On what basis? Ashley Young has better career stats and has done more in a handful of Man Utd appearances than Downing has done for Liverpool despite suffering injuries.
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Based on him playing better than young, throughout his career.
posted on 26/12/11
Charlionso, who do you think you will be able to get, that would fit into Liverpool's system?
posted on 26/12/11
Based on him playing better than young, throughout his career.
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Despite scoring less goals and having less assists?
posted on 26/12/11
Charlionso, who do you think you will be able to get, that would fit into Liverpool's system?
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We need someone in the ilk of Hernandez, someone who has quick reactions and has the finishing instincts that Fowler did.
I don't think it will come cheap though, but I'm sure the owners will have realised we need this now and will invest.
Remember Man City got the likes of Silva and Tevez when they weren't in the Champions League and we may have to offer someone a pretty decent wage packet if it means getting someone who can make the difference between putting games to rest much earlier and dropping needless points time after time.
I'd like to see Cavani personally.
posted on 26/12/11
You only scored 1 goal was cos of Rovers brilliant defence it had nothing to do with Carroll being rubbish and you wasteing 50 million pounds on average players
Don't include Downing in that good player
posted on 26/12/11
Lets be honest none of us (that are English) were overwhelmed when he got picked for the national side prior to him playing for Liverpool, he is ok, nothing more nothing less - Certainly not the type of Mata/Silva player we are crying out for
posted on 26/12/11
Certainly not the type of Mata/Silva player we are crying out for
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We have plenty of 'creators' though, but seriously lack finishers.
I find it funny when these wums (children) keep posting their drivel saying how bad Adam, Downing, Henderson etc are when in truth we are creating plenty of chances in just about evey game this season so far.
We also have the best defence in the league, and bar the unfortunate own goal, have looked solid there again today. The problem is finishing the chances off. When there is only Suarez of real quality upfront, even with some of the magical stuff he can produce out of nothing, we lack a dynamic player to really get between there defence and finish things off, and take the pressure off Suarez all the time.
Carroll is a forward and not really the best partner for Suarez, and only really effective in certain types of games, we need a proper poacher.
posted on 26/12/11
The only proper poacher in the league is Hernandez IMO - he was a great find for them.
Downing is a very "English" winger, he puts the ball in the box and in the air, Carroll is either not the header of the ball we thought or teams are so wary of him he is getting marked out of the game, either way Downing's type of delivery is not producing the goods.
With the forward players we have at the club goals should not be a problem, most of Kuyt's goals come from poacher positions but it's just not happening for us, Bellamy is a good goal scorer as is Maxi and Suarez scored shed loads in Holland - Will another striker really make that much difference? We can't even play all the players we have in the squad at the moment
posted on 26/12/11
Sorry super injunction but i feel downing crosses are some of the worst ive seen, he cant even shoot properly without skying it 9/10
posted on 26/12/11
I'm not saying they are great crosses more pointing out that it's all he does, never pulls the ball back or dribbles in to the box, it's very one dimensional - I would say Johnson and Enrique put more variety in when they get down the line
posted on 26/12/11
Downing's crosses are fine and have been this season. Also Adam's passes have been fine and our midfield has been fine. Suarez' finishign has been terrible, as has Carroll's and Kuyt's. We can't keep blaming the creators when the creators are nearly making twenty shots per game.
I've been saying this since the start of the season and I don't know how long we have to go getting over twenty shots a game before people stop blaming the creators and start blaming the people not finishing the chances. I mean it's common sence. I know people like to jump on bandwagons but this is getting ridiculous now. Watch the game and open your eyes!
posted on 26/12/11
Downing is so average, Young is better, Liverpool fans that think otherwise, are seriously deluded and this is coming from a Liverpool fan.
posted on 26/12/11
Downing's crosses are fine and have been this season. Also Adam's passes have been fine and our midfield has been fine. Suarez' finishign has been terrible, as has Carroll's and Kuyt's. We can't keep blaming the creators when the creators are nearly making twenty shots per game.
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Exactly
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