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posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 seconds ago
Paul Cannoville too woke for NPE
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Black History Month is a con, history is not defined by skin colour, nor is anything meaningful. If the only interesting thing to say about Paul Cannoville is that he is the first black player then he probably isnt that interesting.
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His book Black and Blue is a good read and defines racism in football and in thecountry at that time. His colour of skin has nothing to do with it,how people decided to react to his skin colour is what its about.
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I am not sure why him being racially abused in the 80s means I have to recategorise history by the skin colour of the people involved, and buy into the collective lie this is a structurally racist country. His book may be about the past but BT Sport is using it to make claims about the present which I do not accept.
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Yes racism vanished out of our society. No evidence now
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I don’t recall saying that either. For a smart man who worked in cognitively demanding jobs for many decades you seem to be unable to read my comments properly.

posted on 23/10/21

I don't understand why structural and institutional racism is the benchmark. So as long as we don't reach that level it's OK. All is well.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by Edinpotter (U1109)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 3 minutes ago
Victims arent very interesting.
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Irony klaxon
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I am boring.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted about a minute ago
Victims arent very interesting.
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Then let's do away with any societal culture and laws designed to protect victims
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I don’t recall saying I wished the remove any laws, you must have been reading another users waffle. I would rather just prefer football not to be taken over left wing lies about racism and our society, and continue to find knee taking pretty ugly. Any way, you were the one clapping that oaf Tyrone Mings, interesting to see his abuse of Priti Patel destroyed the Tories in the polls.

Oh wait, it didnt.
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You inferred you haven't care for victims by your comment.. I just added the next stage to your paradigm.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 36 seconds ago
I don't understand why structural and institutional racism is the benchmark. So as long as we don't reach that level it's OK. All is well.
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No, I think racism is always bad, I disagree with the so called anti racism of today that attempts to define our actions and experiences by our skin colour. I dont think society our experiences individually are structured that way at all.

Since George Floyd there has been a power grab from media like BT Sport to push an agenda I have no time for

posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted about a minute ago
Victims arent very interesting.
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Then let's do away with any societal culture and laws designed to protect victims
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I don’t recall saying I wished the remove any laws, you must have been reading another users waffle. I would rather just prefer football not to be taken over left wing lies about racism and our society, and continue to find knee taking pretty ugly. Any way, you were the one clapping that oaf Tyrone Mings, interesting to see his abuse of Priti Patel destroyed the Tories in the polls.

Oh wait, it didnt.
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You inferred you haven't care for victims by your comment.. I just added the next stage to your paradigm.
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I said I dont find them interesting.

I never said I didnt care

My Mum is boring, I still care about her.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 33 seconds ago
Paul Cannoville too woke for NPE
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Black History Month is a con, history is not defined by skin colour, nor is anything meaningful. If the only interesting thing to say about Paul Cannoville is that he is the first black player then he probably isnt that interesting.
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His book Black and Blue is a good read and defines racism in football and in thecountry at that time. His colour of skin has nothing to do with it,how people decided to react to his skin colour is what its about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I am not sure why him being racially abused in the 80s means I have to recategorise history by the skin colour of the people involved, and buy into the collective lie this is a structurally racist country. His book may be about the past but BT Sport is using it to make claims about the present which I do not accept.
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Yes racism vanished out of our society. No evidence now
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I don’t recall saying that either. For a smart man who worked in cognitively demanding jobs for many decades you seem to be unable to read my comments properly.
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If you dont want your comments to me construed, then better to dispose with using tnroqaone liners.

Your "victims are boring" comment conjures up the image of someone who has no compassion or empathy for others.

posted on 23/10/21

I can’t actually have empathy for Cannoville, as I havent been racially abused - at least, I doubt it.

I can, however, say that people being defined by abuse directed at them is not that interesting to me. I think people who are victimised but then do meaningful things with their lives are fascinating. People defined simply for being victims, less so.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 36 seconds ago
I don't understand why structural and institutional racism is the benchmark. So as long as we don't reach that level it's OK. All is well.
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No, I think racism is always bad, I disagree with the so called anti racism of today that attempts to define our actions and experiences by our skin colour. I dont think society our experiences individually are structured that way at all.

Since George Floyd there has been a power grab from media like BT Sport to push an agenda I have no time for
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In fairness it took quite a few George Floydsfor this to happen. It BT features like that one make it less likely for the next George Floys to happen,then its OK by me.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted about a minute ago
I can’t actually have empathy for Cannoville, as I havent been racially abused - at least, I doubt it.

I can, however, say that people being defined by abuse directed at them is not that interesting to me. I think people who are victimised but then do meaningful things with their lives are fascinating. People defined simply for being victims, less so.
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You have been abused on here. You have been.mocked for some of the mental health issues that to contend with on a regular basis.

I imagined that would allow you to empathise even without you specifically experiencing personal racial abuse.

posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 36 seconds ago
I don't understand why structural and institutional racism is the benchmark. So as long as we don't reach that level it's OK. All is well.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No, I think racism is always bad, I disagree with the so called anti racism of today that attempts to define our actions and experiences by our skin colour. I dont think society our experiences individually are structured that way at all.

Since George Floyd there has been a power grab from media like BT Sport to push an agenda I have no time for
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In fairness it took quite a few George Floydsfor this to happen. It BT features like that one make it less likely for the next George Floys to happen,then its OK by me.
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I don’t recall George Floyd being killed by British Police.
Even if I accepted the claim America’s police forces are institutionally racist and George Floyd was killed by a racist - things I personally dispute - I resent the idea our society is identical to America’s.
I also have no idea how defining people more and more by their race and showing lecturing documentaries in the UK has much to do with anything other than power.
They want people to conform to their world view.
I refuse.

posted on 23/10/21

Anyway your boy Mings was awful yesterday and I was thrilled

posted on 23/10/21

Ffs Kante plays a game or two and is out injured again. Keeps happening. Hope he’s not out for long.

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 23/10/21

N'Golo Kante has some 'muscle tightness' and has been left out as a precaution.

posted on 23/10/21

Rest him against Southampton and get him ready for Newcastle.

posted on 23/10/21

We will probably get a documentary on his muscle tightness next week on BT Sport

posted on 23/10/21

https://link.chelseafc.com/1WUW/340b2af7
Here's a link from The 5th Stand, Chelsea FC's official app: Tuchel explains midfield selection

I can never not have Kante on the bench

posted on 23/10/21

comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
Anyway your boy Mings was awful yesterday and I was thrilled
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He has been awful. His one good game for England is a star in a run of rubbish performances

posted on 23/10/21

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 6 minutes ago
N'Golo Kante has some 'muscle tightness' and has been left out as a precaution.
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Ahhh makes sense then

posted on 23/10/21

Let’s geddit

posted on 23/10/21

I want Kai to emulate Eidur

posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPEEEE (U22712)
posted 7 minutes ago
Anyway your boy Mings was awful yesterday and I was thrilled
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He has been awful. His one good game for England is a star in a run of rubbish performances
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Yes, lets hope my boy Havertz cheers us all up today eh

posted on 23/10/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
I want Kai to emulate Eidur
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I would love Eidur in this team

posted on 23/10/21

Loved Gudjohnsen

posted on 23/10/21

comment by TLLL (U4640)
posted less than a minute ago
Loved Gudjohnsen
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Even at Spurs

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