or to join or start a new Discussion

Articles/all comments
These 27 comments are related to an article called:

JEN CHANG

Page 1 of 2

comment by DaveLFC (U6602)

posted on 16/11/12

Obviously sacked for threathening a fan. How he thought he would get away with that in this day an age I'll never know.

comment by fitlfc (U2366)

posted on 16/11/12

Another poor appointment by FSG. Chang has gone home to the USA.

posted on 16/11/12

I am no FSG hater but it is a bit disconcerting how many recruitment mistakes they have made in their first two years as owners.

If we are to achieve the commercial success they hope to in the coming years, they have got to sort that out.

posted on 16/11/12

Fitlfc

"Another poor appointment by FSG. Chang has gone home to the USA."

How on earth are they meant to know Chang would do what he did when he was appointed?

posted on 16/11/12

How on earth are they meant to know Chang would do what he did when he was appointed?

----

You could say that about any appointment ever. He was brought in to help PR. He did the opposite.

That is a bad appointment.

comment by FSB (U11355)

posted on 16/11/12

red_man, are you saying it was a good appointment?

Using that logic Downing cannot be described as a bad purchase because no one could have known how badly he would play for us.

comment by fitlfc (U2366)

posted on 16/11/12

It didn't take Chang too long to show what an idiot he is. Obviously did not have the right experience for the job.
Not on official website yet - oh wait we have no communications director! Tea lady will write it up, she has more sense anyway.

comment by RtM (U1097)

posted on 16/11/12

Who is he?

posted on 16/11/12

Another expensive pay off no doubt

posted on 16/11/12

Righteous and FSB

Chang had no prior history of doing this sort of thing. Yes in hindsight it was a bad appointment. But when he was hired FSG weren't to know he'd go all Soprano's. Chang is the only person responsible in all this. He dragged the clubs name down, when we were trying to bring it back up again after the Suarez affair.

The owners have done the right thing by keeping schtum, investigating, and then sacking Chang.

posted on 16/11/12

Yes they have done the right thing by getting rid (apparently), but that doesn't make it a good appointment in the first place.

Ultimately any appointment is judged on what they do in their job, not what they did before.

Shevchenko had no record of being utterly awful before Chelsea signed him, it didn't make him a good signing when he was subsequently utterly awful.

posted on 16/11/12

Righteous

I've never said it was a good appointment. I just don't understand the owners getting stick for appointing Chang. Like I said they weren't to know Chang would do what he did.

I think it's all a fit up anyway by that lot across the park. I don't know how we didn't see it, it's not like they were subtle.

Jen Chang >>>>> this lot https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=everton+kit+2013&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=42imUNDLOYa40QWYv4CYAw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=320&bih=356#i=0

posted on 16/11/12

I have to say there are quite a few Liverpool fans who cannot see anything bad about FSG and its conduct with some of the ill advised appointments made.

Right from the start of his appointment his main office was run from Twitter and he very rarely seemed to be in evidence where he should have been in the mainstream media. He came across to me like any chancer on Twitter and was not only an embarrassment from start to finish but a very shady character to boot with his infamous spat with Duncan Jenkins.

Very strange that many fans from this forum liked DJ until that moment, but blindly followed Chang only to be embarrassed by being loyal to an employee of the club we love and trust.

I was never taken in by this pillock. He may well have family caught up in the hurricane aftermath but its difficult to believe anything connected with Chang media wise.

The correct decision has been made to move him on.

Beware of FSG.

posted on 16/11/12

If anyone is interested in a photo op', just seen Suarez in Tesco allerton

posted on 16/11/12

Be careful if you walk past him.....he may just roll.around on the floor holding his shin and waving to a checkout girl

posted on 16/11/12

Lets hope he doesn't bump into Phil Neville, it could be carnage in there!

posted on 16/11/12

Those who take the time to research changs time before liverpool will see he was a respected journo, that's what landed him the job.

How were FSG to know the power would go to his head and turn him into an egomaniac?!? Only the typical anti FSG whinge brigade can blame his behaviour on them, I would hope everyone else whith half a brain can see that a mans actions are his own, not the fault of his bosses

But yeah, reason goes out the window when its a burning fire of irrational hatred.

posted on 16/11/12

Time to come in agent Chang....Operation Goodison is over.

posted on 16/11/12

How were FSG to know the power would go to his head and turn him into an egomaniac?!? Only the typical anti FSG whinge

----

Because they are the owners and the buck stops with them.

I heard they same weak defence of FSG over their appalling handling of the Dempsey saga, we lost out there partly due to them announcing he had already joined us for heavens sake. The apologists will say its not FSG but their sports network...the excuses run and run from Dempsey to Chang, to it being Ayres fault for no new signings.

posted on 16/11/12

ARE, are you serious?

You think we "lost out" on Dempsey? I'm pretty glad we didn't get him!
Yes, it was a mistake by a company that is something to do with FSG, but so what? What difference do you think it makes to anything or anyone?

posted on 16/11/12

Aggers

"Because they are the owners and the buck stops with them."

An employer takes on an employee in good faith, based on their previous experience and CV.

The employee commits an act of gross mis conduct, and tarnishes the name of the employers business.

In your opinion it's the employers fault?

FSG aren't psychic. They weren't to know Chang would do what he did. They employed him in good faith. Since this all came out they've [the owners] conducted themselves correctly.

You say others 'can't see anything wrong with FSG', yet you can't see anything right with them, and are just waiting to say 'I told you so'.

posted on 16/11/12

Red_man23

posted on 16/11/12

In your opinion it's the employers fault?

-----

Absolutely. Where is the proof that Chang was a good appointment? He knew nothing about football. Lived in the USA. (And still does incredibly) one thing FSG should have learnt from the get go it that they have no knowledge of football. The appointment never made sense in the first place.

BTW

As far as the buck stops here philosophy goes. If FSG won't take responsibility for the shambles then who will?

posted on 16/11/12

Aggers

He was appointed as communications director. His knowledge of football wasn't a deciding factor in him getting the job. The fact that he worked at Sports Illustrated (which must mean he had some knowledge of the game) as a journalist meant he was able to communicate via social media etc.

"As far as the buck stops here philosophy goes. If FSG won't take responsibility for the shambles then who will?"

The buck stops with Chang. He was the one that brought the club into disrepute. He was the one who met with, and threatened a fan. How do you absolve the perpetrator, but blame the employer?

FSG investigated the claims against Chang, and then got rid of him. What more do you expect from them?

posted on 16/11/12

The buck stops with Chang. He was the one that brought the club into disrepute. He was the one who met with, and threatened a fan. How do you absolve the perpetrator, but blame the employer?

------

The trouble is with this idea is it means we can be mismanaged time and time again and the owners will never be held responsible. They are in the game of sports ownership and making a profit depends on success on the field and off it.

As it happens I think FSG are learning and taking action quicker than they did, but they have been very slow catching on. Their policy at the moment on signings is debatable and the team is further of the pace than it was last season.

All the fans at Liverpool including you and me know the expectations and standards that we demand. I'm not sure the owners have figured it out yet.

Page 1 of 2

Sign in if you want to comment