RDM in>RDM out>Rafa IN>Rafa out

Ending the season with zero (Spurs) < Ending up with something

TCP's comment about winning something>Spurs winning nothing

I never knew applauding club legend's was a crime.

Lets make sure Zola gets some stick when we play Watford

RDM a legend

He never lost to Spurs, that alone makes him one

RDM a legend thought

Kings Road, fair enough Ranieri didn't win any trophies But he was a good Manager, wasn't he? I mean I remember watching his last game on tv and the whole stadium was singing his his name. "there's only one Ranieri". Now if he was a bad Manager I don't think fans would have done this. He finished 2nd in the league and although im not discrediting Mourinho, Ranieri was close to winning the title himself and had secured some quality signings before Mourinho arrived.

Anyway, onto RDM. What exactly makes him a legend? Are you honestly saying that the CL win was all down to him? As this really confuses a lot of us. If it was, then Roman sacked a "legend" for no reason. If he wasn't responsible for the CL win, then I don't understand how he can be called a legendary Manager? Then it boils down to the points I made earlier: AVB has to take a lot of the credit for Chelsea's trophies last season.

RDM telling Roman that "I won the CL" after winning it was highly cringy

Yeah. He should've pulled out a picture of Boas

Yeah. He should've pulled out a picture of Boas

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AVB should have done a John Terry.

So what you are all saying is Boas beat 'Arry 5 - 1 at Wembley as well

Hugo

i have this theory that managers can be divided into 3 categories-the no hopers, the winners and the nearly men. Claudio falls into the nearly men category, you only have to look at the number of runners up medals he's accumulated as a manager. we needed a winner like Jose to take us up to the next level

the only positive i take from AVB's time with us was Mata, who i'm not even convinced was an AVB signing! considering the situation RDM inherited from the ginger one abd the situation at the end of the season, i don't really see how AVB could take any credit. we'd sed up the CL with the Napoli mauling, were heading out of the FA Cup haveing drawn with Brum and were on steady freefall in the League, having fallen to gutless defeats at Everton and West Brom

RDM's legend status goes back to his playing days. as a manager he accomplished what none of his predecessors could. having said that, he wasn't perfect as this season showed, and Roman pretty clearly never wanted him, probs didn;t think he was a high profile enough appointment. i'd argue RDM was brought in as a stopgap much to win over the mutinous fans, if that mirace in Munich hadn;t happened he would never have got the job on a full time basis

don't click here, I can appreciate that fans respect RDM from his time as a player for the club mate I just don't get his status as a Manager being legendary, that's all. I mean yes he was a stop gap, but then if he was never a long term Manager and if he really wasn't that good as a Manager, then surely he cannot be put in the legendary catergory as a Manager? Mourinho can, yes. The man was a winner on everything except the CL, which no doubt he would have got eventually. But Roman fooked that up for you guys by letting go of your man. But RDM just took the manager tag after AVB got sacked, then the team won 2 trophies on a team AVB was working with, but somehow he has claimed a status for achieving something that was being built by the previous manager. I mean i'm not totally discrediting RDM, you will see from my comments that I was disgusted at the way your club treated him. All my point is that AVB was working with that team and I find it ironic that the very same team he was working with managed to win 2 trophies a couple of months after he got booted out.

I mean if AVB was a poor Manager, then surely Spurs would be struggling alongside Liverpool now. I believe we're doing a decent job in the league despite our injury situation all season (yes we've not had a chance to play our desired first team all season), despite the fact we sold influential players like Modric and Modric. AVB has had some work to do and he is doing it with us. Yes it's too early to say he is a success, but I genuinely feel we have a very good Manager who has the right vision and I just don't feel he was given enough time at Chelsea.

"if that mirace in Munich hadn;t happened"

We were led to believe that the events were due to RdM and his managerial abilities. Why would Oligarsky sack a manager who had demonstrated such abilities ??

time will tell with AVB, i think we were right to get rid of him but he's done far better than i expected with you lot, especially given the players you lost and the sub standard replacements he's had to deal with. culd have just been that AVB and Chelsea were a bad fit

my theory abotu AVB at Chelsea is that he tried to do too much and threw the basics out of the window in the process. i struggle to remember the last time we were as defensively fragile as we were under AVB. true he tried to bleed in younger players but then he went about this all wrong, left 2 of his most important performers on the bench for the crunch match against napoli that could, and indeed did decide his fate. ironically though i don;t think we were ever quite as bad under AVB as we were the previous season

RDM managed to accomplish what none of managers have ever (or likely will ever ) accomplish. i'd be a fool though if i tried to argue he was perfect. truth be told i think we right to get rid of him but i was ashamed of the manner in which we did and how we treated a man who has given so much to the club. also didn;t help that the man who replaced him at the helm has a bad history with Chelsea ad our fans

We were led to believe that the events were due to RdM and his managerial abilities

The players say so.
Yet you think different

Why should AVB get any credit? Both AVB and RDM had the same squad at their disposal. RDM managed it better than AVB did. Numerous stories came out afterwards about AVB alienating half the squad. How are you so sure AVB would have won us the CL if all this was going on? RDM did not take the credit for anything built by the previous manager because the previous manager was only there for 8 months. What can you do in 8 months? He wasnt there when the majority of that squad was built so I struggle to see what he built in 8 months that RDM sneakily took the credit for?. The team AVB was working with was the same team he was alienating. Do you not see how rubbish the morale was in the squad around the time of AVB's sacking. 3-1 down against Napoli in the CL, defeat against West Brom in the league and we had an FA Cup replay against Birmingham so what exactly was AVB building at this moment in time? Do you think everything was hunky dory when AVB was sacked, and RDM just took over and used the same tactics and same players as AVB was using and used AVB's highline to win the two trophies? AVB screwed up at Chelsea. This is fact. RDM came in, used the squad better, they responded to him and 2 trophies came as a result of this.

"Yet you think different"

You sacked a manager whose abilities allegedly won you the CL.
8 months on, when he on paper had the same/better squad then the season before.

So why precisely did he had to go ??

Jose Carlo were better managers. Your point is ?

Watch out Mr C, It looks like the tea boy has love in his eyes.

Next thing you know he'll be inviting you round to position the crumpets between his butt cheeks before he toasts them in front of an open fire

"Jose Carlo were better managers. Your point is ?"

You haven't got a clue about why the managers of the club you support get the sack ??

Tell me this -
You are saying that the Chelsea players just turned up for work every day, changed into their kits, went out onto the pitch hoping for the best to win games ?
Is that what you are saying ?
And also then implying that Boas should take credit for their trophies while doing is ?
Is that what you are saying ?
Tell me you don't believe this, or you are the stupidest Spurs fan i have come across.
And to win that title, well it takes some doing

don't click there, I appreciate your views mate Unfortunately it just didn't work out with AVB for the club, but i'm happy for him to be at Spurs as so far he has been doing a very job for us. Despite a couple of early season bad results for us, he's actually managing to strengthen the team as the season goes on. As for Chelsea, I dunno what else to say as you're stuck with the Go Compare advert guy for the rest of the season I just think your owner needs to give his next Manager a little more time to build on the team, as you do have a lot of very talented players who just need to settle down and play under the one system.

comment by TheChameleonProject (U1847)
posted 46 minutes ago
Tell me this -
You are saying that the Chelsea players just turned up for work every day, changed into their kits, went out onto the pitch hoping for the best to win games ?
Is that what you are saying ?
And also then implying that Boas should take credit for their trophies while doing is ?
Is that what you are saying ?
Tell me you don't believe this, or you are the stupidest Spurs fan i have come across.
And to win that title, well it takes some doing

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You should really take a leaf out of dont click there's book. At least he is capable of having a debate without having to resort to childish insults