If I ever downloaded a music file there is no way I am going to purchase the same again.
That is how it always is, until one day there is a problem
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I know I am asking for trouble but it has made my life much easier. I might start backing up to 2 cloud locations. The chances of both going down at the same time are very slim.
Özil Da Silva
Fair enough, I've tried Spotify, for me it is way too limited, like I said a lot of the stuff I have are rips from vinyl because they're not available digitally offically. I use Apple's Photo Stream to keep my iPhone photos but it's so frustrating, it compresses the photos, you have no access to them outside of your phone (not even if you go onto you iCloud page) and there's a limit of 1000 photos!
Call me old fashioned but I still want my files especially important ones backed up on an external hardware.
Guess that's why many people still are sceptical about online banking as they prefer to do transactions face to face.
Very slim indeed, I do appreciate cloud backups, don't get me wrong, infact I probably should have done one a few weeks ago, I just like having a physical backup of everything too and I don't even really think about doing it these days, just happens.
Though the downside is, if your house blows up, the hard drive may no longer work.
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If I ever downloaded a music file there is no way I am going to purchase the same again.
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Exactly
I say fack them. They make enough money as it is without having to treat the public like fools. Like at that talentless group one direction. They're probably all millionaires already and for what? They get their vocals professionally remastered when they release a single or album or when they do a liveshow, they lip-sync.
I know what you mean about Spotify. I wouldn't be using it but it only costs me £5 a month as opposed to £10. For your pictures I would strongly recommend Dropbox. Very nice app that automatically backs up your pictures after you take them (well it does on Android).
Though the downside is, if your house blows up, the hard drive may no longer work.
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the last thing you will be worrying about if your house blows up is your work.
The proper procedures for backing up are madness. You are meant to keep your work backed up on an external hard drive and that is meant to be at least 10 ft away from your house. So every time you want to back up you have to go and get it
i wouldnt even download a 1 Direction song for free.
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
When you think of music you should ignore that rubbish. I don't buy or download that crap.
Less well known independent artists will be grateful for every sale as they are not millionaires. Many are just about making a comfortable living. I support them as much as possible and have even donated to a few crowd funding campaigns on Pledge music.
Yeah I just leave mine in a drawer next to my computer, which hopefully is still ok. For a business, you're supposed to keep it in a natural disaster proof location aswell to prevent flood damage etc. It is crazy.
Cloud storage should absolutely not be treated a primary storage solution. Companies (even the biggest ones) can go under, be bought/sold etc. Their Ts&Cs will have clauses to protect them, not you, if data is lost.
Always keep a local-ish backup as well, bear in mind fire, theft, flood.
As a part-time DJ/producer, I'd say stealing other user's material is not good. To them, it's no different from taking a physical posession from them. In fact many producers rely on the small amounts of income they earn from making the music we love. However, the record companies are usually the ones exploiting both the artists and the consumers. Music is cheaper that it has ever been. I used to DJ with vinyl, earn less as a DJ back then and have to spend £7 on one vinyl track! People baulk at the fact it costs 99p per track these days and would rather get it for free.
With movies, again it's the same. Actors do earn more I guess but sometimes it's years of hard, demanding work for them. But when you go to a cinema on a Saturday morning with your kids to watch an animated film which has no famous voiceovers and they charge you £30 for an adult and 2 kids just to get a seat, they only have themselves to blame. Why not drop the price considerably and fill all of the seats for a lower margin as opposed to showing a film to 14 people on a Saturday morning at extortionate prices?
Özil Da Silva
I've actually been trying Dropbox and Google Drive on my iPhone, for me they're too fiddly. Photo Steam is instant when viewing, the other 2 take a couple seconds which just seems a couple seconds too long. I'm sure cloud storage will be essential for people over the next few years just right now the technology isn't quite good enough.
Yeah I just leave mine in a drawer next to my computer, which hopefully is still ok. For a business, you're supposed to keep it in a natural disaster proof location aswell to prevent flood damage etc. It is crazy.
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When I was at college our teacher told us he sellotapes his hard drive to the roof of his office at home because his house kept flooding
I'd say stealing other user's material is not good
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It's not stealing. If it were, it would be a criminal offence under 'theft'. As it is, it is copyright infringement which is a civil matter.
But when you go to a cinema on a Saturday morning with your kids to watch an animated film which has no famous voiceovers and they charge you £30 for an adult and 2 kids just to get a seat, they only have themselves to blame. Why not drop the price considerably and fill all of the seats for a lower margin as opposed to showing a film to 14 people on a Saturday morning at extortionate prices?
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Exactly, if they dropped ticket prices by more during the off peak times, they'd get more people through the door, and presumably make a killing in refreshments at £10 for a large popcorn
It's stealing. Dress it up how you like. You're taking something you haven't paid for which you should have.
I can recommend Acronis Online backup for home users. Been using their excellent image based software for years and this gives you up to 250GB for up to 5 pcs for £40 a year. Cheap enough for a secondary backup solution.
Ivor Yeh good point. I know there are the small fish out there that do suffer from the hands of online piracy but you know as with everything, if there's a chance to get something for free, people will take that chance rather than pay for it.
Louis CK is a great example of how people are willing to pay for something today.
If you don't know who he is, he's one of the best comedians in the world and all his life his live performances were distributed through companies where the middle man would take a large cut for doing basically nothing.
He realised it was all BS so decided to do everything himself, sell the product at a very cheap price ($5 I think), with 20% of every sale going to charity as well. In a week he made more money than he ever had in his entire career, no money went to overpaid pointless middle men industries and the fans paid a fair price.
It's not easy but it would be great if more artist/film makers/musicians could do similar things and not use these out dated industries who only care about making money for themselves.
Makes you wonder if somebody is reading this and seeing how many of you have incriminated yourselves in this article
Haha if they're reading this to try and catch people, then they're never going to catch anyone!
It's stealing. Dress it up how you like. You're taking something you haven't paid for which you should have.
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How do you know those downloaders are not employing a 'try before you buy' strategy? There have been numerous reports that the biggest downloaders also pay more for content than any other user.
Aye, good point about having to buy music and film across different formats.
I have upgraded many dvds to bluray over the years, effectively paying for hte same content in better quality. And that is after having already upgraded many of those films from VHS to DVD in the first place.
I have also had to buy hundreds, maybe thousands, of tunes electronically despite already owning them on vinyl. These industries employ marketing teams and steering groups to come up with new ways of robbing us yet we are told that piracy is getting in the way of them doing that..It makes it harder to sympathise, especially when they add insult to injury by lying to people about pirates funding terrorism and stupid stuff like that. If you are downloadinf stuff for free then how exactly does that "fund" anything??
It also irritates me that in countries like China piracy is commonplace. Technically it's illegal but the authorities turn a blind eye to the extent that I wouldn't even know how to buy stuff legally in China!! Do legal music/movie stores even exist there? Considering the size of the population, it bugs me that nobody cares about piracy in those places yet you and I would be considered criminals for downloading music that we already own on another (legal) format.
Re. cloud, etc., I would not rely on any service that means I need an internet connection to access my content. What if my internet is down? Then I could not watch a film or listen to music? No thanks.
CwF-RtB
Connect with fans - Reason to buy
That is a strategy employed with great success by people like Louis CK, Amanda Palmer, Jonathan Coulton and other artists. Instead of crying about piracy, they are working hard to give fans a reason to buy and it is working. The major entertainment companies could learn a thing or two from these 'little people'.
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posted on 4/3/13
If I ever downloaded a music file there is no way I am going to purchase the same again.
posted on 4/3/13
That is how it always is, until one day there is a problem
---------------------------------------
I know I am asking for trouble but it has made my life much easier. I might start backing up to 2 cloud locations. The chances of both going down at the same time are very slim.
posted on 4/3/13
Özil Da Silva
Fair enough, I've tried Spotify, for me it is way too limited, like I said a lot of the stuff I have are rips from vinyl because they're not available digitally offically. I use Apple's Photo Stream to keep my iPhone photos but it's so frustrating, it compresses the photos, you have no access to them outside of your phone (not even if you go onto you iCloud page) and there's a limit of 1000 photos!
posted on 4/3/13
Call me old fashioned but I still want my files especially important ones backed up on an external hardware.
Guess that's why many people still are sceptical about online banking as they prefer to do transactions face to face.
posted on 4/3/13
Very slim indeed, I do appreciate cloud backups, don't get me wrong, infact I probably should have done one a few weeks ago, I just like having a physical backup of everything too and I don't even really think about doing it these days, just happens.
Though the downside is, if your house blows up, the hard drive may no longer work.
posted on 4/3/13
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posted on 4/3/13
If I ever downloaded a music file there is no way I am going to purchase the same again.
_________
Exactly
I say fack them. They make enough money as it is without having to treat the public like fools. Like at that talentless group one direction. They're probably all millionaires already and for what? They get their vocals professionally remastered when they release a single or album or when they do a liveshow, they lip-sync.
posted on 4/3/13
I know what you mean about Spotify. I wouldn't be using it but it only costs me £5 a month as opposed to £10. For your pictures I would strongly recommend Dropbox. Very nice app that automatically backs up your pictures after you take them (well it does on Android).
posted on 4/3/13
Though the downside is, if your house blows up, the hard drive may no longer work.
-------------------------------
the last thing you will be worrying about if your house blows up is your work.
The proper procedures for backing up are madness. You are meant to keep your work backed up on an external hard drive and that is meant to be at least 10 ft away from your house. So every time you want to back up you have to go and get it
posted on 4/3/13
i wouldnt even download a 1 Direction song for free.
posted on 4/3/13
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
When you think of music you should ignore that rubbish. I don't buy or download that crap.
Less well known independent artists will be grateful for every sale as they are not millionaires. Many are just about making a comfortable living. I support them as much as possible and have even donated to a few crowd funding campaigns on Pledge music.
posted on 4/3/13
Yeah I just leave mine in a drawer next to my computer, which hopefully is still ok. For a business, you're supposed to keep it in a natural disaster proof location aswell to prevent flood damage etc. It is crazy.
posted on 4/3/13
Cloud storage should absolutely not be treated a primary storage solution. Companies (even the biggest ones) can go under, be bought/sold etc. Their Ts&Cs will have clauses to protect them, not you, if data is lost.
Always keep a local-ish backup as well, bear in mind fire, theft, flood.
As a part-time DJ/producer, I'd say stealing other user's material is not good. To them, it's no different from taking a physical posession from them. In fact many producers rely on the small amounts of income they earn from making the music we love. However, the record companies are usually the ones exploiting both the artists and the consumers. Music is cheaper that it has ever been. I used to DJ with vinyl, earn less as a DJ back then and have to spend £7 on one vinyl track! People baulk at the fact it costs 99p per track these days and would rather get it for free.
With movies, again it's the same. Actors do earn more I guess but sometimes it's years of hard, demanding work for them. But when you go to a cinema on a Saturday morning with your kids to watch an animated film which has no famous voiceovers and they charge you £30 for an adult and 2 kids just to get a seat, they only have themselves to blame. Why not drop the price considerably and fill all of the seats for a lower margin as opposed to showing a film to 14 people on a Saturday morning at extortionate prices?
posted on 4/3/13
Özil Da Silva
I've actually been trying Dropbox and Google Drive on my iPhone, for me they're too fiddly. Photo Steam is instant when viewing, the other 2 take a couple seconds which just seems a couple seconds too long. I'm sure cloud storage will be essential for people over the next few years just right now the technology isn't quite good enough.
posted on 4/3/13
Yeah I just leave mine in a drawer next to my computer, which hopefully is still ok. For a business, you're supposed to keep it in a natural disaster proof location aswell to prevent flood damage etc. It is crazy.
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When I was at college our teacher told us he sellotapes his hard drive to the roof of his office at home because his house kept flooding
posted on 4/3/13
I'd say stealing other user's material is not good
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It's not stealing. If it were, it would be a criminal offence under 'theft'. As it is, it is copyright infringement which is a civil matter.
posted on 4/3/13
But when you go to a cinema on a Saturday morning with your kids to watch an animated film which has no famous voiceovers and they charge you £30 for an adult and 2 kids just to get a seat, they only have themselves to blame. Why not drop the price considerably and fill all of the seats for a lower margin as opposed to showing a film to 14 people on a Saturday morning at extortionate prices?
---
Exactly, if they dropped ticket prices by more during the off peak times, they'd get more people through the door, and presumably make a killing in refreshments at £10 for a large popcorn
posted on 4/3/13
It's stealing. Dress it up how you like. You're taking something you haven't paid for which you should have.
I can recommend Acronis Online backup for home users. Been using their excellent image based software for years and this gives you up to 250GB for up to 5 pcs for £40 a year. Cheap enough for a secondary backup solution.
posted on 4/3/13
Ivor Yeh good point. I know there are the small fish out there that do suffer from the hands of online piracy but you know as with everything, if there's a chance to get something for free, people will take that chance rather than pay for it.
posted on 4/3/13
Louis CK is a great example of how people are willing to pay for something today.
If you don't know who he is, he's one of the best comedians in the world and all his life his live performances were distributed through companies where the middle man would take a large cut for doing basically nothing.
He realised it was all BS so decided to do everything himself, sell the product at a very cheap price ($5 I think), with 20% of every sale going to charity as well. In a week he made more money than he ever had in his entire career, no money went to overpaid pointless middle men industries and the fans paid a fair price.
It's not easy but it would be great if more artist/film makers/musicians could do similar things and not use these out dated industries who only care about making money for themselves.
posted on 4/3/13
Makes you wonder if somebody is reading this and seeing how many of you have incriminated yourselves in this article
posted on 4/3/13
Haha if they're reading this to try and catch people, then they're never going to catch anyone!
posted on 4/3/13
It's stealing. Dress it up how you like. You're taking something you haven't paid for which you should have.
----------------------
How do you know those downloaders are not employing a 'try before you buy' strategy? There have been numerous reports that the biggest downloaders also pay more for content than any other user.
posted on 4/3/13
Aye, good point about having to buy music and film across different formats.
I have upgraded many dvds to bluray over the years, effectively paying for hte same content in better quality. And that is after having already upgraded many of those films from VHS to DVD in the first place.
I have also had to buy hundreds, maybe thousands, of tunes electronically despite already owning them on vinyl. These industries employ marketing teams and steering groups to come up with new ways of robbing us yet we are told that piracy is getting in the way of them doing that..It makes it harder to sympathise, especially when they add insult to injury by lying to people about pirates funding terrorism and stupid stuff like that. If you are downloadinf stuff for free then how exactly does that "fund" anything??
It also irritates me that in countries like China piracy is commonplace. Technically it's illegal but the authorities turn a blind eye to the extent that I wouldn't even know how to buy stuff legally in China!! Do legal music/movie stores even exist there? Considering the size of the population, it bugs me that nobody cares about piracy in those places yet you and I would be considered criminals for downloading music that we already own on another (legal) format.
Re. cloud, etc., I would not rely on any service that means I need an internet connection to access my content. What if my internet is down? Then I could not watch a film or listen to music? No thanks.
posted on 4/3/13
CwF-RtB
Connect with fans - Reason to buy
That is a strategy employed with great success by people like Louis CK, Amanda Palmer, Jonathan Coulton and other artists. Instead of crying about piracy, they are working hard to give fans a reason to buy and it is working. The major entertainment companies could learn a thing or two from these 'little people'.
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