redmisty

Were you the chap who had a run in with a Blockbuster?

Jay

That's why i've said nothing

http://bandcamp.com/

Great site with a pay what you want system

That's just it, every 5-10 years there is a new way of using the content you own if you wanted to sty with the curve, which can mean upgrading entire libraries, it is ludicrous! If you've bought it once, then surely there has to be someway of being able to 'trade up' to the latest version.

In China they have stalls, and entire shops with racks and racks of pirated DVDs, as in, in to the thousands or tens of thousands just in a pile.

At the moment my pet peeve is not being able to watch, for example, an mp4 from iTunes, through my tv, even though everything is linked correctly, the tv just doesn't recognise the format, which means that every movie I get, has to be in multiple formats so I can watch it both on my laptop on the go, or on my tv. Which is bloody annoying. There needs to be a universal media format, and all players, etc, conform to playing it.

Ivor

I just went to that site but there was just a red-headed girl putting a flute in her puussy.

Oops wrong one

Like I said earlier 'illegal' downloading in Switzerland is completely legal for personal use because they understand downloaders usually pay more for content than anyone else.

It's 2013, you can't use the same principles now as you did 5-10 years ago, you need to adapt and change. Music and film industries are just too slow to understand so just wanna punish anyone because they think they're 'stealing' when the truth is they haven't got a clue about how people consume these days.

Ivor - I used to spend up to £100 per week on vinyl alone. But that doesn't mean I should be entitled to the other vinyl worth £1000s does it? Poor argument!

MU82, sounds extremely similar to the reason HMV are going under. With the then CEO saying that "online downloads and digital copies are just a temporary fad that wont last"

Like I said earlier 'illegal' downloading in Switzerland is completely legal

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Same in Holland

Let's face it, the biggest rip off is football.

In the UK you can spend close to £100 a month for Sky, ESPN and your Club's TV channel yet you don't get to watch the games on your TV for your own league that those abroad get to watch for next to nothing!

Jay MUFC

They're so thick, same with Blockbusters, how they couldn't see what was happening and allowed companies like Love Film and Netflix to lead is ridiculous.

In the UK you can spend close to £100 a month for Sky, ESPN and your Club's TV channel yet you don't get to watch the games on your TV for your own league that those abroad get to watch for next to nothing!
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The cost of Sky, ESPN etc is ridiculous.

But as for not being able to watch 3pm games, I hope it stays that way. The day 3pm prem games get aired on British T.V is the day lower league football begins to collapse.

Napster.....

Legendary music downloading program. Its where it all started.

Limewire
Bearshare
Napster

Bearshare

Limewire was brilliant too, until it stopped connecting...

That is a good point bloodred but it should be made available to those who can afford and want it.

However, I used to enjoy going to watch my local clubs like Edgware Town and Wealdstone FC on a Saturday when I was free. Also went to a lot of Watford games with my mates when I could. It's great to get out and watch a game even if it is not your favoured team!

It was Kazaa before Limewire. God, I've downloaded so much stuff in the past. Musicians are homeless because of me

Napster was supposed to kill the music industry
So was pirate radio
So was home taping
Recorded music was going to kill live music
VHS was going to kill the cinema

It is nothing but FUD being spouted by entertainment industry executives afraid of losing their monopoly forever.

JeremyKyleNation

You mention these vinyl that cost £1000s (I'm guessing you're talking about second hand vinyl), you do realise the money doesn't go to the artists but 100% to the dealer selling them? How does that help the music industry? It doesn't but it is completely accepted.

I payed £70 for a record last week, I bought it off a dealer who pocketed all the money and I discovered the record online from a blog where I downloaded it for free. Not one penny went to the music industry and I'm completely fine with that.

I think it's a bit rich coming from the Entertainment industry about loss of earnings. The studios that fund the production of films make tens of millions of dollars; sometimes in the hundreds of millions.

The recent change in law to allow you to make legal copies of CDs etc was a good step forward in my opinion.

Music for one takes a lot of time to make so it's rare to find good musicians who can devote to making music in their spare time. If you take away the majority of their income, most would not be able to afford to make it and would be forced to do other jobs which would ultimately deprive us of music.

People need to remember that you can now listen online to a track or album before you decide to buy it for a much lower cost than you used to. Surely that's a good thing?

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)

Even if you buy a record normally, it is a small percentage of the money that goes to artists. Same with DVDs.

This is a phenomenon dubbed Hollywood accounting. The companies fiddle the books enough to maximise their own profits while not giving creators what they deserve.

A good recent example is the band Styx who are to sue a label because they have not been paid what they should have been paid. The record labels are the real criminals.

No I meant I only spent about £100 a week on vinyl but there was probably another £1000+ I could have spent per week. You had to prioritize. But the notion that you can say that "it's ok, I spent £40 on music the other day, I'm entitled to steal this album because I can't afford it" is ridiculous.

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/styx-sue-label-over-phony-business-model/