I think that Martial Artist enjoys being laughed at.

He believes that

1. the 2013 McLaren car is an evolution of the 2012 car and Jenson Button influenced it to suit his style.
2. In 2012 Lewis Hamilton won 4 races, had to retire from 6 races due to mechanicals, 4 races were screwed by pit crew incompetence and 5 races lost position due to car problems, made the same number of pit stops as all of the top drivers, pitted at the same time as the other top drivers, yet these facts are bizarrely considered to be proof that Lewis Hamilton can not manage his tyres.
3. Michael Schumacher’s career was the same as a member of the octopus family (a damp squid )
4. their is spelt there
5. Lewis Hamilton's dog is on a lease (I thought he bought it)
6. The Gettysburg Address is long winded

Martial's poor standard of written English is an embarrassment to our educational system. It is as though he attended a school that could not afford books to teach English to their children and compensated for it by supplying them with a small tin of alphabet spaghetti and a piece of toast.

Yet he still has the nerve to question the intelligence of an F1 driver.

Rap, it's generally electrical issues so we can't even say his style isn't harvesting the energy required. Always his car, KERS failures. If they are the same, why can't they use Vettel's system to fix Mark's

Helmut Marko hates Webber. He even insults him in the in house Red Bull magazine.

Webber couldn't give a fluk. Mark has stated that Helmut has an agenda and Mark is not part of it.

man unt devil

sorry manx you have lost me mate -- what is it that ferrari have done in the past and red bull can do -- seriously mate i dont get that one -

as i have said before i dont believe red bull have been out and out the best car for the past 3 yrs ,webber has not suddenly had a talent bypass these pass 3 yrs whilst teamed up with vettel -- red bull dont do poor drivers ,
if the red bull was sooooooooo superior webber would have done alot more with it -- drivers dont suddenly have talent bypasses at the drop of a hat mate --

as i have said before no 2 drivers are not allowed to beat the no 1 driver if they are employed as a no 2 -
unless i have been watching something different than F1 these last few yrs webber has beat vettel on a number of occasions

WTCBU



right on cue WTCBU turns up with his drunken insults and bile when he does not agree with anybody and does not have the nous or intelligence to debate anything he does not agree with -

come on WTCBU act like a proper man and not a coward and debate any point that you dont agree with -

---------- as soon as you hurl you parrot fashion insults around you have lost

Thanks martial, in one post you say Webber is good but at the same time, he can't make his car work as well as Vettel.

How is he a good driver then? I notice no one is yet to explain how two identical cars have different problems

man unt devil

you are asking questions that nobody on here can answer ,we are not f1 designers or f1 engineers so we dont know why the cars specifically break down

all we know is that they are all highly strung machines with everthing crammed into a very confined space -

as i said before manx ---- and think before you answer i mean really think about it ,

do you honestly think in your wildest dreams that red bull would spend millions and millions and millions and millions on a workforce of over 450 people to design and develop there machines every year only to purposely sabotage one driver with the sole intention of stopping him from completing races that would then damage there constructors championship chances -

as i said really think about it before you reply back manx

I've told you already. Webber's job is to take points off other drivers and not Vettel. That is why his front wing was given to Vettel and why on numerous occasions, he has been told not to race Vettel even when he's leading the championship by miles.

man unt

sorry manx just cherry picking one qualifying incident is not proof that vettel is employed as a no 2 -

even if webber was employed as a no 2 which he is not that still does not explain why vettel is getting more from the car than webber -

---------- if the car is sooooooooo superior to everything else on the track webber would be finishing close to vettel every race
---------- not being blown off by other drivers alot of the time

Cars going out on inters before the rain comes back

GO GO GO !!!

Evening Gents

But strange watching live F1 at midnight

Come on Hammy!

What the hell is up with McLaren, no wonder they said they will take risks they're useless!

Red Bull 1-2
Hamilton 3
Ferraris 4-5
Rosberg 6

Provisional Qualifying Results

1 Germany S Vettel Red Bull
2 Australia M Webber Red Bull
3 Great Britain L Hamilton Mercedes
4 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
5 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
6 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes
7 Finland K Raikkonen Lotus
8 France R Grosjean Lotus
9 Great Britain P Di Resta Force India
10 Great Britain J Button McLaren
11 Germany N Hulkenberg Sauber
12 Germany A Sutil Force India
13 France J Vergne Toro Rosso
14 Australia D Ricciardo Toro Rosso
15 Mexico S Perez McLaren
16 Finland V Bottas Williams
17 Venezuela P Maldonado Williams
18 Mexico Esteban Gutierrez Sauber
19 France J Bianchi Marussia
20 Great Britain M Chilton Marussia
21 Netherlands G van der Garde Caterham
22 France C Pic Caterham

Good job Hamilton

Not going to catch those Red Bulls

I liked the way every driver, including Webber checked out the Red Bull.

Martial, you say we shouldn't use a session to judge but in this thread, you used a session to say Rosberg will beat Hamilton

Get in Lewis! Different team, same story. Pushing the car to the limit.

No suprise Red Bull lockout the front row, hopefully Webber can do a number on Vettel

WTCBU, you must be mistaken. The cars are the same according to some

man unt devil

i said it would not surprise me if rosberg beats hamilton -

what about it ?

It appears McLaren are consistent this season with incompetence. A complete joke.

You used one session to say that but then said you can't use a session to judge. I'm confused

It will be an interesting race tomorrow, in terms of strategy. Top 2 places are more or less decided. Goodnight fellas, see you bright and early