We'll find out all about each other's teams next season. Good luck.
Yeah same mate, for the record I don't have a problem with West Brom, I've played at the Hawthorns and been as a fan a few times and it's a good club.
I'm just surprised by the support that the Ideye deal has gained because that's a massive gamble. At least Ulloa has played in England for two years and scored at a rate of pretty much 1 in 2 in the Championship in an average side and he's scored pretty much the same ratio in La Liga too. I'd say his credentials for £2m less seem much better value for money yet people think we've overpaid? I don't get it!
If you find yourself bored around midday, Leicester are playing Everton in Thailand and it's being streamed for £3.99 through lcfc.com 👍
Arro
Of course it's a gamble and it may not come off. It won't be the first. However like all fans we will be hoping that he can deliver. Why would be do anything else? Time will tell if Ulloa is too expensive but that won't stop Leicester fans' believing he will take the Premier by storm. Good luck. Despite all the stupid bickering on these boards there cannot be too many Midlands side in this division for me.
My point was really whether we have overpaid because many think we have and Ladbrokes called it the worst signing of the week.
It was meant as a comparison between the two because I couldn't possibly see how Ideye could warrant £10m and I wanted to know if Albion fans felt they've overpaid? Some Leicester fans didn't want us to spend not than £4m so peoples perceptions of value differ immensely.
I wish we had more Midlands and less Cockney 👍
You've overpaid because you at PL. Look at the ridiculous amounts paid for Soton players. Their team of last year was apparently worth over £100m if the resale prices of Lallana, Chambers, Shaw are anything to go by. Don't get hung up on transfer fees. They are what they are. If Ulloa's goals keep you up then it's worth it.
May I interject here and say that both clubs have paid over the odds for two strikers who will score about 6 goals.
It's your defence that Leicester you should be concentrating on.
Albion have addressed theirs with slow players that don't even know each other.
I do like it when a WUM article fails due to lack of persistence from the OP. Pundit attempting to fan the flames, but the fire has gone out.
I disagree scoring goals is the key to survival is goals goals goals so strikers are the most important. thats why they cost the most and paid the most
16 goals in the Championship for a striker really isn't a lot. Roman Bednar managed more than that and I'm sure Leicester fans will remember how good he was for them.
As for our recruitment policy, last season was the first season we strayed from our traditional scouting network policy and entrusted one man to build a team overriding the scouting team. The result was the poor signings and shambles of a season that followed. Thankfully we have reverted to our usual set-up, which saw us end up 11th, 10th and 8th before that. Lets see if Leicester manage that with the likes of Vardy, Nugent and Ulloa.
How is this a wum article? You're all deluded!!
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
Behave, step up for unproven strikers is huge. Look at vydra, Chopra and Maynard in recent seasons. Massive gamble for a clubs first season in the premiership. Could be a disaster
Ideye is a risk too, but alternatively we have a core squad of players who are proven in the premiership.
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 42 minutes ago
........... unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots.........
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If that's not a wind-up and is your normal style of conversation I think you should maybe read, "How to win friends and influence people"
So you class me bagging the Ukranian league as a wum? Really? Do they educate you different in Dudley or something?
Are you seriously going to argue that the standard is better than the Championship? Which is renowned to be the best/most competitive league outside of the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Primeira Liga so yeah he was playing pub league football.
I never mentioned him as a player because I've not seen him play but then neither has your manager ha ha 😄
I think you'll find my tone has changed throughout this thread, largely based upon some ridiculous posts from Albion fans telling me why I should want their players and that we're going to get a massive wake up call blah blah blah
Well we just beat Everton 1-0, stroll in the park really and reminded me of last season. Vardy and Nugent both had very good finishes disallowed, rightly so I might add but the finishes were both too class.we kept the ball well, attacked with pace and defended as a "tight, well organised, compact unit" according to the Everton commentator.
Ulloa also impressed both the Everton commentators, including Graeme Sharpe, who himself was an old fashioned number 9 and at first glimpse I'm happy. With the chances we create and the finishing talent we have, I don't see goals being too much of an issue.
We will see, we've been told for 5years now how we are going to go down and how poor out signings are. And last year was the only time it's gone to the last few games, but even then we didn't.
The championships standard is ok, but far from premier league. And whether teams stay up is often almost entirely based on the experience of the manager, which is why I think you will struggle
Its just a baggie defence mechanism, any criticism is a wum.
They ignore things like hiring Tony Irving as manager.
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
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Surely a thread questioning whether Ulloa was good value or overpriced was one for your board and yours alone? Don't think I'm alone on this board in not caring one way or another ?
Your first post if you read it back was provocative and insults such as the one above will certainly not endear you or lead to a reasonable debate
Hope I'm wrong as I want all midlands teams in the Premiership, but think Leicester could struggle as their is a lack of premiership experience in that squad. I fully expect a decent start, followed by a dip during the winter as the euphoria of getting promoted wanes, injuries kick in, & lack of experience takes it's toll. Hope I'm wrong though.
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it.
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
comment by Bournemouth Baggie (U1685)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
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Surely a thread questioning whether Ulloa was good value or overpriced was one for your board and yours alone? Don't think I'm alone on this board in not caring one way or another ?
Your first post if you read it back was provocative and insults such as the one above will certainly not endear you or lead to a reasonable debate
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Well said Bournemouth. I think it started off as a reasonable question but did he get the hump when some fans disagreed..
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 58 minutes ago
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
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Agree with all you say Cinci but we all want to be in the division. The other 13 or so clubs lose far more games than they win and are subject to patronising remarks or gratuitous abuse from the pundits.
Don't try to tell me however that you or any other Wolves fan would not give their eye teeth to be back in the premier league.
Right it seems some of out West Mids buddies don't really get the concept of reasonable debate as you clearly did not understand the point of this post!
How on earth is this something that is only for our board when my point is to find out if other fans are
happy paying such high fees for unproven players! It's a legitimate question based on the state of the transfer market!
If any of you failed to grasp that then really you need to not be so touchy!
You have spent £10m on someone your manager has never seen play for a start so I wanted to know how you felt about that and the fact that he has played a max of four Champions League games in 2012/13 because they didn't get past the group stage and one Europa League game last season because they lost first game!
Someone suggested that Dynamo Kyiv are a bigger club than Brighton and yes they might well be but the Ukranian league is not as competitive as the Championship and anyone that knows anything about football knows that the Championship is the best league in Europe outside the top five leagues. The Ukranian league is a pub league and anyone that thinks it's better than that is seriously deluded!
I've also been told that we're going to get a massive wake up call and that in fact baggy bomber reckons I shouldn't even try to have a debate until we've been in the Premier League for five years?? What's that all about? That was the point when I got annoyed and was about half a dozen replies in.
In my opinion, if Leicester had signed Ideye I can't imagine too many fans being excited about spending so much money on someone so unproven!
Ulloa has scored 39 in 90 in La Liga and 23 in 50 in the Championship as opposed to Ideue 17 in 52 in Ligue 1 and 33 in 74 in a pub league yet someone argued his credentials were somehow better than Ulloa's which frankly I'm still having real problems trying to understand.
I don't care what anyone says I have been to see a league game in Ukraine and the standard is like League 1 and I should know because I watched enough games when we were in the division!
I don't rate West Brom and I so think we have a better team than you already. We beat Everton yesterday and didn't get out of third gear. We completely controlled the game and never looked in any threat at all. Graeme Sharpe was very impressed with Ulloa and our team in general.
They were both very surprised to have been beaten so easily but with only one shot on target all second half it really was easy! We caused them loads of problems with our pace and had them defending so deep it was like playing a Championship game where they were parking the bus, we had a lot of that last year and we broke down Everton too and did what we needed to do to win the game.
comment by Alouion (U2095)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 58 minutes ago
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
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Agree with all you say Cinci but we all want to be in the division. The other 13 or so clubs lose far more games than they win and are subject to patronising remarks or gratuitous abuse from the pundits.
Don't try to tell me however that you or any other Wolves fan would not give their eye teeth to be back in the premier league.
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Honestly mate, the prem is the 'goal' that's how its all set up, but if we could win champo titles, get paid and then decline the prem I would take that.
The best thing for footy in england would be the big five or six moving on and the rest having something to any for again.
Many get excited at the prospect of facing the United's and Chelsea's each year, like little kids in awe, that doesn't float my boat in the slightest.
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posted on 27/7/14
We'll find out all about each other's teams next season. Good luck.
posted on 27/7/14
Yeah same mate, for the record I don't have a problem with West Brom, I've played at the Hawthorns and been as a fan a few times and it's a good club.
I'm just surprised by the support that the Ideye deal has gained because that's a massive gamble. At least Ulloa has played in England for two years and scored at a rate of pretty much 1 in 2 in the Championship in an average side and he's scored pretty much the same ratio in La Liga too. I'd say his credentials for £2m less seem much better value for money yet people think we've overpaid? I don't get it!
posted on 27/7/14
If you find yourself bored around midday, Leicester are playing Everton in Thailand and it's being streamed for £3.99 through lcfc.com 👍
posted on 27/7/14
Arro
Of course it's a gamble and it may not come off. It won't be the first. However like all fans we will be hoping that he can deliver. Why would be do anything else? Time will tell if Ulloa is too expensive but that won't stop Leicester fans' believing he will take the Premier by storm. Good luck. Despite all the stupid bickering on these boards there cannot be too many Midlands side in this division for me.
posted on 27/7/14
My point was really whether we have overpaid because many think we have and Ladbrokes called it the worst signing of the week.
It was meant as a comparison between the two because I couldn't possibly see how Ideye could warrant £10m and I wanted to know if Albion fans felt they've overpaid? Some Leicester fans didn't want us to spend not than £4m so peoples perceptions of value differ immensely.
I wish we had more Midlands and less Cockney 👍
posted on 27/7/14
You've overpaid because you at PL. Look at the ridiculous amounts paid for Soton players. Their team of last year was apparently worth over £100m if the resale prices of Lallana, Chambers, Shaw are anything to go by. Don't get hung up on transfer fees. They are what they are. If Ulloa's goals keep you up then it's worth it.
posted on 27/7/14
May I interject here and say that both clubs have paid over the odds for two strikers who will score about 6 goals.
It's your defence that Leicester you should be concentrating on.
Albion have addressed theirs with slow players that don't even know each other.
posted on 27/7/14
I do like it when a WUM article fails due to lack of persistence from the OP. Pundit attempting to fan the flames, but the fire has gone out.
posted on 27/7/14
I disagree scoring goals is the key to survival is goals goals goals so strikers are the most important. thats why they cost the most and paid the most
posted on 27/7/14
16 goals in the Championship for a striker really isn't a lot. Roman Bednar managed more than that and I'm sure Leicester fans will remember how good he was for them.
As for our recruitment policy, last season was the first season we strayed from our traditional scouting network policy and entrusted one man to build a team overriding the scouting team. The result was the poor signings and shambles of a season that followed. Thankfully we have reverted to our usual set-up, which saw us end up 11th, 10th and 8th before that. Lets see if Leicester manage that with the likes of Vardy, Nugent and Ulloa.
posted on 27/7/14
How is this a wum article? You're all deluded!!
posted on 27/7/14
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
posted on 27/7/14
Behave, step up for unproven strikers is huge. Look at vydra, Chopra and Maynard in recent seasons. Massive gamble for a clubs first season in the premiership. Could be a disaster
Ideye is a risk too, but alternatively we have a core squad of players who are proven in the premiership.
posted on 27/7/14
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 42 minutes ago
........... unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots.........
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If that's not a wind-up and is your normal style of conversation I think you should maybe read, "How to win friends and influence people"
posted on 27/7/14
So you class me bagging the Ukranian league as a wum? Really? Do they educate you different in Dudley or something?
Are you seriously going to argue that the standard is better than the Championship? Which is renowned to be the best/most competitive league outside of the EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and Primeira Liga so yeah he was playing pub league football.
I never mentioned him as a player because I've not seen him play but then neither has your manager ha ha 😄
posted on 27/7/14
I think you'll find my tone has changed throughout this thread, largely based upon some ridiculous posts from Albion fans telling me why I should want their players and that we're going to get a massive wake up call blah blah blah
Well we just beat Everton 1-0, stroll in the park really and reminded me of last season. Vardy and Nugent both had very good finishes disallowed, rightly so I might add but the finishes were both too class.we kept the ball well, attacked with pace and defended as a "tight, well organised, compact unit" according to the Everton commentator.
Ulloa also impressed both the Everton commentators, including Graeme Sharpe, who himself was an old fashioned number 9 and at first glimpse I'm happy. With the chances we create and the finishing talent we have, I don't see goals being too much of an issue.
posted on 27/7/14
We will see, we've been told for 5years now how we are going to go down and how poor out signings are. And last year was the only time it's gone to the last few games, but even then we didn't.
The championships standard is ok, but far from premier league. And whether teams stay up is often almost entirely based on the experience of the manager, which is why I think you will struggle
posted on 27/7/14
Its just a baggie defence mechanism, any criticism is a wum.
They ignore things like hiring Tony Irving as manager.
posted on 27/7/14
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
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Surely a thread questioning whether Ulloa was good value or overpriced was one for your board and yours alone? Don't think I'm alone on this board in not caring one way or another ?
Your first post if you read it back was provocative and insults such as the one above will certainly not endear you or lead to a reasonable debate
posted on 27/7/14
Hope I'm wrong as I want all midlands teams in the Premiership, but think Leicester could struggle as their is a lack of premiership experience in that squad. I fully expect a decent start, followed by a dip during the winter as the euphoria of getting promoted wanes, injuries kick in, & lack of experience takes it's toll. Hope I'm wrong though.
posted on 27/7/14
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it.
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
posted on 27/7/14
comment by Bournemouth Baggie (U1685)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by arrothefoxinoz (U8567)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
Ulloa was injured for a lot of last season but his goals to games ratio speak for themselves, unlike your boy Ideye who has been playing pub league football.
This isn't a wind up but you idiots taking it as such just shows you know nothing!!
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Surely a thread questioning whether Ulloa was good value or overpriced was one for your board and yours alone? Don't think I'm alone on this board in not caring one way or another ?
Your first post if you read it back was provocative and insults such as the one above will certainly not endear you or lead to a reasonable debate
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Well said Bournemouth. I think it started off as a reasonable question but did he get the hump when some fans disagreed..
posted on 27/7/14
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 58 minutes ago
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
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Agree with all you say Cinci but we all want to be in the division. The other 13 or so clubs lose far more games than they win and are subject to patronising remarks or gratuitous abuse from the pundits.
Don't try to tell me however that you or any other Wolves fan would not give their eye teeth to be back in the premier league.
posted on 27/7/14
Right it seems some of out West Mids buddies don't really get the concept of reasonable debate as you clearly did not understand the point of this post!
How on earth is this something that is only for our board when my point is to find out if other fans are
happy paying such high fees for unproven players! It's a legitimate question based on the state of the transfer market!
If any of you failed to grasp that then really you need to not be so touchy!
You have spent £10m on someone your manager has never seen play for a start so I wanted to know how you felt about that and the fact that he has played a max of four Champions League games in 2012/13 because they didn't get past the group stage and one Europa League game last season because they lost first game!
Someone suggested that Dynamo Kyiv are a bigger club than Brighton and yes they might well be but the Ukranian league is not as competitive as the Championship and anyone that knows anything about football knows that the Championship is the best league in Europe outside the top five leagues. The Ukranian league is a pub league and anyone that thinks it's better than that is seriously deluded!
I've also been told that we're going to get a massive wake up call and that in fact baggy bomber reckons I shouldn't even try to have a debate until we've been in the Premier League for five years?? What's that all about? That was the point when I got annoyed and was about half a dozen replies in.
In my opinion, if Leicester had signed Ideye I can't imagine too many fans being excited about spending so much money on someone so unproven!
Ulloa has scored 39 in 90 in La Liga and 23 in 50 in the Championship as opposed to Ideue 17 in 52 in Ligue 1 and 33 in 74 in a pub league yet someone argued his credentials were somehow better than Ulloa's which frankly I'm still having real problems trying to understand.
I don't care what anyone says I have been to see a league game in Ukraine and the standard is like League 1 and I should know because I watched enough games when we were in the division!
I don't rate West Brom and I so think we have a better team than you already. We beat Everton yesterday and didn't get out of third gear. We completely controlled the game and never looked in any threat at all. Graeme Sharpe was very impressed with Ulloa and our team in general.
They were both very surprised to have been beaten so easily but with only one shot on target all second half it really was easy! We caused them loads of problems with our pace and had them defending so deep it was like playing a Championship game where they were parking the bus, we had a lot of that last year and we broke down Everton too and did what we needed to do to win the game.
posted on 27/7/14
comment by Alouion (U2095)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 58 minutes ago
Just another pointless year for about 12-13 clubs in the prem is the reality of it
Fans going to games to rarely see the team win, celebrating finishing 17th or above.
The sad state of football, and the fans falling into the trap it matters financially.
Since when did fans suddenly have to become financial experts when supporting a club?!?
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Agree with all you say Cinci but we all want to be in the division. The other 13 or so clubs lose far more games than they win and are subject to patronising remarks or gratuitous abuse from the pundits.
Don't try to tell me however that you or any other Wolves fan would not give their eye teeth to be back in the premier league.
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Honestly mate, the prem is the 'goal' that's how its all set up, but if we could win champo titles, get paid and then decline the prem I would take that.
The best thing for footy in england would be the big five or six moving on and the rest having something to any for again.
Many get excited at the prospect of facing the United's and Chelsea's each year, like little kids in awe, that doesn't float my boat in the slightest.
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