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posted on 2/12/15

comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 2 minutes ago
Darth Vader is a Jedi
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Who turned to the dark side
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Indeed he did. And Isis are Muslims who turned to the dark side of Islam
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Sheik Robb can you show me in the Quran this dark side of Islam that you think exists using historical context of course.

Because as we all know if you don't read the Quran using historical context you are really really stupid.

posted on 2/12/15

How is daesh pronounced?

posted on 2/12/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 2 minutes ago
Darth Vader is a Jedi
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Who turned to the dark side
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Indeed he did. And Isis are Muslims who turned to the dark side of Islam
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Sheik Robb can you show me in the Quran this dark side of Islam that you think exists using historical context of course.

Because as we all know if you don't read the Quran using historical context you are really really stupid.
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And that's where we agree. That there is a dark side of Islam in the world of 'lack of historical context'.

ISIS don't use historical context and I would gladly separate 99% of muslims out there from ISIS.

But the sad fact remains that as long as there is something out there which can be mis-contexted (i made up a term) then people can and will use it for dark reasons.

They're Islamists but very very dumb Islamists

posted on 2/12/15

comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 2 minutes ago
Darth Vader is a Jedi
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Who turned to the dark side
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Indeed he did. And Isis are Muslims who turned to the dark side of Islam
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Sheik Robb can you show me in the Quran this dark side of Islam that you think exists using historical context of course.

Because as we all know if you don't read the Quran using historical context you are really really stupid.
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And that's where we agree. That there is a dark side of Islam in the world of 'lack of historical context'.

ISIS don't use historical context and I would gladly separate 99% of muslims out there from ISIS.

But the sad fact remains that as long as there is something out there which can be mis-contexted (i made up a term) then people can and will use it for dark reasons.

They're Islamists but very very dumb Islamists
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What you need to understand is without the historical context, Muslims would never know HOW Muhammad (pbuh) used Gods laws.

So if they are using Gods laws in way which wasn't practised by the Prophet then how can it be categorized as Islamic.

Unless you think Daesh are a superior authority within Islam then the Prophet.

posted on 2/12/15

comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 6 minutes ago
How is daesh pronounced?
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I'm going with Douche.

posted on 2/12/15

Kung Fu

As isis are so obviously anti-muslim,and distorting the prophet's words,surely the world can unite to remove them.

Islamic scholars could call their isis daesh bluff,to show they are anti-islam,thus removing their religious cover.

It saddens me to see corbyn letting isis off the hook,as isis slaughter,and assad remains in power,and Jeremy does what to halt isis or assad?

posted on 2/12/15

Great to see a muslim female MP from Wealden saying isis just wanted to kill us all,break our crosses and take our women,as isis do not respect any faith,and only seek our demise.
She asked if corbyn and friends were going to go to negotiate with isis,and if not,what would they do to stop isis,without force.

Simple question,for the do nothing brigade,who are lying in front of lorries at Westminster.Clowns.

posted on 2/12/15

Bluebells

If I was PM the first thing i'd do is put trade sanctions on rich Arab countries who don't want to help put a stop to this madness.

Places like Saudi, UAE, Qatar etc can all help.

I wouldn't put a western force in the ME, because historically our administrations have shown they can't be trusted on that side of world.

Regardless of what people say about our forces, they are human and because they are human they come in a variety of good and bad like everybody else. Wearing a uniform doesn't make you a saint.

Atrocities will be committed by our military if they are on the ground fighting just like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This will just build up resentment towards the western world and it's the civilians in the streets that will suffer AGAIN while Cameron is tucked up in bed with 24 hour security.

The only way out of this mess is an Arab coalition (and other minorities in the region) to take on Daesh on the ground.

The British, Americans and Russians should only be protecting there own borders.

*Reports of Russians using white phosphorus......

posted on 2/12/15

This guy talks sense

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/nicolas-henin-the-man-who-was-held-captive-by-isis-for-10-months-says-how-they-can-be-defeated-a6757336.html

posted on 2/12/15

It saddens me to see corbyn letting isis off the hook,as isis slaughter,and assad remains in power,and Jeremy does what to halt isis or assad?
...........
Do you know who is actually in power in the UK?

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 2/12/15

If Isis took over the world what religion would we be forced to follow?

posted on 2/12/15

More chance of Zombies taking over the world.

posted on 2/12/15

Please see labour man hilary benn,live now on news channels.

posted on 2/12/15

Mudd

You do know we are debaing life and death,and corbyn has power as labour leader.
Creepy corbyn could be PM.

His labour colleague,an internationalist,spoke sense,unlike appeasers of facism.

Wonderful speech

posted on 2/12/15

Bluebells

Benn unlike his father also supported the Iraq war.

posted on 2/12/15

I hope that supports this will support more refugees coming into this country because will be directly blowing up people's homes now.

posted on 2/12/15

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posted on 2/12/15

comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
If Isis took over the world what religion would we be forced to follow?
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Wahhabiism. Same distortion of Islam that they teach in Saudi Arabia.

Quite literally from the same textbooks that they use in Saudi schools.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 3/12/15

So Islam then.

posted on 3/12/15

No not Islam, he clearly said a distortion of Islam.

If something is distorted it is no longer the same.

posted on 3/12/15

comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 11 minutes ago
No not Islam, he clearly said a distortion of Islam.

If something is distorted it is no longer the same.
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If i'm being honest it's a bit unfair of you to be the one to decide what is and isn't Islam. Especially as all the supposed versions are about as real as Ian Beale.

posted on 3/12/15

comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona *JeSuisPalestinian* (U18082)
posted 11 minutes ago
No not Islam, he clearly said a distortion of Islam.

If something is distorted it is no longer the same.
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If i'm being honest it's a bit unfair of you to be the one to decide what is and isn't Islam. Especially as all the supposed versions are about as real as Ian Beale.
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Like I said before it isn't me who is deciding, it is the Prophet of Islam. The way in which he practised these supposed 'violent' verses are as clear as day.

If they are not following how Muhammad (pbuh) practised then by definition it is not Islamic. This should be a very easy concept to grasp, but you hate religion so much you are desperate for it to be the root cause of what is happening.

Anything to deflect that bombing families in there homes is a factor.

posted on 3/12/15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXmpJRZPYI

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 3/12/15

Keep dressing it up give it all the names you want it doesn't change the fact it's Islam.

A distorted version of "insert missing word"

Denying this isn't helpful.

posted on 3/12/15

comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 10 minutes ago
Keep dressing it up give it all the names you want it doesn't change the fact it's Islam.

A distorted version of "insert missing word"

Denying this isn't helpful.
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So you think attributing these acts to 1.5 billion people is??

Nobody here is able to connect what Daesh do with Islamic teachings. In fact they directly contradict Islamic teachings!

Yet people want to connect Daesh with Islam simply because the group say they are Islamic.

You believe the word of murderers but I doubt you would trust there opinion on anything else.

Why only Islam?

If you want to get anywhere in this debate then use Islamic text to prove what Daesh do is Islamic.

If you can't, then you have already lost the argument.

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