Well, it's all academic since we have no choice. We simply have to give Pearson more time. There has clearly been something seriously wrong somewhere!

We can speculate but I certainly confess to just not knowing. NP is the one supervising training and making the selection decisions. NP is the one who has to sort things out. Tomorrow night will be a very important game.

A manager should usually be given the length of his contract and then he can be assessed. There is lots that goes on behind the scenes that we are not party to as fans. Brian Clough didn't make a great start at Derby after all and the quote about Rome not being built in a day because he wasn't on the job is of course nonsense as he knew. Because Clement was sacked doesn't mean the next one should be too. I think part of 'Arry's brief may have been to cast an experienced eye on the club and give his opinion. Maybe he said it needs a hard head and a bit of a clear out and this takes time, not just one transfer window. I agree it has been a bit rubbish so far but that doesn't mean much to me given that Pearson is such a different style of boss to McLaren, Clement and Wassall who were all primarily coaches rather than managers.

I was down in Bournemouth last week as it happens. I got a good view of 'Arry's pad on the ferry across to the Isle of Purbeck. He's done well for himself, fair play to him.

I think it was Rosie who did well for Arry Vidal....
Would like to see Rawson play tomorrow if fit....

Spart, you don't make sense. You want to sack Pearson after 5 games. You say your a fan of Clough but using your logic to sack Pearson you could have sacked Clough a few times, getting beat at home 4 1 to Scunthorpe getting beat by non league Crawley, getting beat 6 1 at Cardiff getting beat 3 1 at home to Doncaster. Pearson needs 2 years to sort the mess out, my worry is the owner won't give him that long.

Who says I want to sack Pearson after 5 games. Why is it a mess as well. Lots of clubs would have liked to have been in the "mess" we have been in for the last 3 seasons. The only potential mess I can see is being created by Nigel Pearson.

You use the Clough analogy but when was Clough allowed to spend so much money. He seems to be doing a damn sight better than Mr Ostrich as well.

I am making the point that everyone seems to be giving Pearson their support when all he has preseneted us with is a series of awful performances. It just seems hypocrisy from the fans and inconsistency from the owner when you look at how Clement and Wassall were treated.

comment by Gt_Karl (U1940)
posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago
I think it was Rosie who did well for Arry Vidal....
Would like to see Rawson play tomorrow if fit....
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I'm not sure about that myself. The U23s haven't covered themselves in glory this season, higher league yes, but the whole thing has been substandard. Defensively they've looked frail, and that is with Rawson playing, he might have had first team football in the Championship, but it was in a very bad Rotherham side.

I can't say I'm surprised the U23s haven't been performing tho, we've actually let go of a number of the ones I thought should be near the first team last season, obviously I'm not in the best position to make judgements there but some of them were surprises. I guess it's possible they felt they were too good for the U23 squad and wouldn't have been happy staying without a guaranteed step up to the first team.

The dialogue causes me to ask what has happened to Jamie Hanson. he showed great maturity and promise las year?

"Who said I want to sack Pearson after five games?"

That's an outrageous accusation; you gave him ten whole matches

Defensively they've looked frail, and that is with Rawson playing, he might have had first team football in the Championship, but it was in a very bad Rotherham side.
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Yes and excellent reviews in that poor Rotherham side, If 666 favourite player is out I would like to see Rawson

My worry with playing Rawson is the home crowd. 1 mistake from him and the home crowd will be on his back and his confidence shot.

rave reviews in a poor side isn't always the best indication tho, we've picked up players in the past with similar reputations and it hasn't always turned out well.

he looks like a fairly average defender, as Griff states, the crowd could turn on him very quickly.

the only reason we're not rock bottom of the table is that our defence has been working overtime. if they put in the kind of shift the rest of our team has been putting in we would have lost the majority of matches this season by 5 or 6 goals so it's some big boots to fill for a young player.

That says more about the crowd than the player then

Keogh is a doubt is my reasoning

Just watched the 6 odd minutes of video highlights.

We seemed to create more chances and looked much more positive than in the previous five games put together to be honest?

Good job it wasn't still 0-0 when Richard had his unfortunate lapse in the 91st minute! I hope someone warned air traffic control that there would be some low-flying eyebrows as the ball went into our net?

No 666, you aren't very good at comprehension. I said we should judge whether there is an improvement after the next 10 games. If there is none, then his position should be reconsidered. Is that unreasonable? After all it wasn't as if he inherited a struggling team.

I always believe in the 10 game rule. If you can't see an improvement after 10 games then it is unlikely we will see one after 39.



No you didn't.

he inherited a side that could blow hot or cold with no real rhythm or rhyme.

if we took the best parts of our last few seasons we could have gone up as record breaking champions.

if we took the worst parts we could have repeated our premier league antics but in the championship and have another unwanted title attached.

what we've seen so far this season is more of the latter, although even in a lot of those periods in previous seasons we saw more promise than we're seeing now, that is concerning.

I hate to say it, but I think the approach those just down the road have taken might prove to be more successful, even if many of them too were predicting doom and gloom I liked what I saw of the business they did.

For us this season is a gamble, the hot & cold problem needed fixing as it wasn't a sustainable position, spending money to achieve the same result at the end of the season.

Could we go down? possibly, and I'm sure that will have been considered at board level before pushing forward with this new 'Plan A'. Having shipped CM out on loan indications are that we're going to stick it out, regardless of how long it takes, maybe with a view to bouncing back and rebuilding if it doesn't work out. Risky business, but maybe necessary because we really weren't seeing any kind of real year-on-year improvement and need a clean break.

You spoke of writing off the first five games but then slated them, drew comparisons with the fayre offered by Clement, and then made the above statement.

Do you honestly think Pearson now has the players he wants? You can't honestly believe that, can you?

comment by 9earchange (U16914)
posted 24 minutes ago
he inherited a side that could blow hot or cold with no real rhythm or rhyme.

if we took the best parts of our last few seasons we could have gone up as record breaking champions.

if we took the worst parts we could have repeated our premier league antics but in the championship and have another unwanted title attached.

what we've seen so far this season is more of the latter, although even in a lot of those periods in previous seasons we saw more promise than we're seeing now, that is concerning.

I hate to say it, but I think the approach those just down the road have taken might prove to be more successful, even if many of them too were predicting doom and gloom I liked what I saw of the business they did.

For us this season is a gamble, the hot & cold problem needed fixing as it wasn't a sustainable position, spending money to achieve the same result at the end of the season.

Could we go down? possibly, and I'm sure that will have been considered at board level before pushing forward with this new 'Plan A'. Having shipped CM out on loan indications are that we're going to stick it out, regardless of how long it takes, maybe with a view to bouncing back and rebuilding if it doesn't work out. Risky business, but maybe necessary because we really weren't seeing any kind of real year-on-year improvement and need a clean break.

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Absolutely bang on, change was overdue.

Absolutely bang on, change was overdue.

Isn't it more usual to want change for the better.

We are crap.

Why?

If possible I'd have cleared a few more of these hanger ons than has been possible.

We won't go down but bump up a few younger players to the senior squad, play them and shame the wage grabbers who I'm ashamed put on that shirt every week wondering what restaurant they will dine in, no matter what the result.

Feck off you dossers.

It's a long long season but it's starting to look like its a rebuilding one for us folks,

We had a goal at the start, one to go with the other one would be nice.

We are Derby, Super Derby

I'm still not sure 'we won't go down'

If you look at the Championship this season it looks set to be a strong line-up. The teams that have come down seem to be showing that they can adapt after stuttering starts, the teams that have come up are solid enough so I think will eventually do well after they settle in, and many of the mid-table teams or those that battled relegation last season seem to have identified weaknesses and improved.

There are one or two exceptions, Blackburn, rightfully already at the bottom of the table have been recklessly mismanaged for a few seasons now, practically asset stripped of their good players and could be a lost cause.

Preston have also looked dire, it doesn't surprise me we beat them.

That leaves Leeds, Wigan and Rotherham below us at the moment, and from what I've seen I'm not actually sure they deserve to be. Rotherham maybe, but Wigan and Leeds haven't actually looked terrible, just haven't had much go their way.

Laugh at teams like Burton being in the league all you want, but it isn't a trip anybody is going to look forward to.

So it is a riskier than usual season to be taking a gamble, there are a number of very good teams, a lot of good teams, and maybe 1 or 2 truly bad teams. I'd say it's likely to be the closest to a lottery draw we've seen in a good number of years.

Not saying we will go down but I am saying, especially this season, we're not too big to go down, especially if what we're trying to do never does click.

...so you're expecting everyone BUT us to settle down and do reasonably this season? Apart from Rovers and North End?



There's a ways to go yet but there are green shoots there if we look hard enough. I definitely think we'll struggle to play the 442 until either Brad Johnson mans the fck up a bit and gets back on the horse, or January comes and NP can bring in someone specifically for that role.

Whether it'd be wothwhile chasing points by reverting to 433 in the interim or staicking with 442 to get the rest of the players embedded in their respective role requirements is a debate that will rage on and on, but I'd stick with the 'New Plan A' for the duration and hope that we can hit the floor running when January comes; we're not above being that club which puts a late surge up the league together, hitting the play-offs with form and momentum... at this point, I think we'd all take that though because we've looked like a drunk Claude Davis on ice wearing roller skates.

#RamsLivesMatter #CB4 #SaveDru

I'm saying we might, or we might not.. it's a gamble, and there aren't really many bad teams in the league this year, everybody is going to take points and it's likely at least one 'good' team will go down just because they couldn't find form.