I won't insult the memory of those who fought and died for my right to vote by spoiling my ballot with an 'X' next to my Lib Dem candidate. Wasted vote.

I don't even know why I'm debating this like it matters to me. I'm in a very safe pro-Brexit Tory seat

I could vote for Barney the Dinosaur and it wouldn't affect the outcome.

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I will never vote labour again after Blair
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Corbyn is the antithesis of Blair. I understand your hate for Tony, but given is everything he wasn't. Vote Labour.
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given? I meant to say Corbyn obviously.
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You're right there. Blair was a fantastic and credible politician and prime minister.
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Presiding over a deregulated banking system that led to crash of 2008.

A disastrous and illegal war in Iraq costing the lives of hundreds of thousands, displacing many more, and helping to create the situation we see today in the middle-east.

Introducing PFI into our public services resulting in private companies milking the system to fatten up their own pocket.

Increasing voter apathy by centralising decision-making and along with Alastair Campbell, creating a political environment where nobody believed a word any politician said.

A disastrous war in Afghanistan.

Cosying up to Saudi dictators.

Attacking our civil liberties.

Overseeing a grotesque increase in inequality.

Yes, some leader.

Lambeau - If you mean by that that the Lib Dems won't get any value from your vote, I disagree. For instance, whatever you think about UKIP or the referendum, they only managed to get 1 MP, but without them and without people voting for them, the referendum wouldn't have happened. Particularly if you're in a safe seat, vote for what you believe and put some pressure on the government to realise that there are opposite views out there.

Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

Ill prob just vote snp to shake things up

You know - the 3rd biggest party in the uk that you failed to mention...

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Ill prob just vote snp to shake things up
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Racist.

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posted 3 minutes ago
And yet Theresa May is more credible?

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Of course she is. She has the backing of her party and is therefore in a better position to ensure an effective policy making government.

That's not even in question, or shouldn't be if you can see past partisan bias.

I'm not asking anyone to like her policies. There are some I dislike.

A Tory government is the only option for effective government at the moment. That is the sad but unavoidable truth of the matter.

There's no point arguing for Corbyn like he has a hope of winning the election with enough of a majority to form a government.

Likelihood is that Labour lose seats in close majority brexit constituencies.

No point letting partisan bias get in the way of the facts.

I'm resigned to a Tory government.
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And it doesn't matter if those policies are horrific?

Don't be another sheep who believes this Tory propaganda about "strong and stable leadership."

The last few years have been anything but stable. If the Tories win the election that will all but guarantee Britain's exit from the single market and Scotland's exit from Britian.

Theresa May is not strong nor is she a leader. She is just another puppet of Murdoch and the rich Tory party donors, and looks increasingly like becoming a puppet of Trump.

Having good posture and a wealth of media-training does not mean you are a leader. It means you are good at appearing to be a leader to voters.

What actually takes guts is to stand up to people like Murdoch and the City.

I can't stand the SNP, but I have to admit they provide an effective opposition in Westminster at PMQs.

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Ill prob just vote snp to shake things up
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Racist.
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Nationalist possibly. Not sure we could define race in this context

Don't be another sheep who believes this Tory propaganda about "strong and stable leadership.

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Desiring strong and stable leadership is not propaganda. It's common sense.

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I can't stand the SNP, but I have to admit they provide an effective opposition in Westminster at PMQs.
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Its our sexy accent

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

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I'm saying two things; we can't trust Blair, and Blair did pretty much nothing in line with Labour values in his time as PM.

Thankfully he is far too unpopular to ever return to politics.

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Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

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I'm saying two things; we can't trust Blair, and Blair did pretty much nothing in line with Labour values in his time as PM.

Thankfully he is far too unpopular to ever return to politics.
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Id vote for blair

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Don't be another sheep who believes this Tory propaganda about "strong and stable leadership.

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Desiring strong and stable leadership is not propaganda. It's common sense.
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I'm not saying we shouldn't desire strong and stable leadership. I'm saying the Tories do not and will not provide that.

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Don't be another sheep who believes this Tory propaganda about "strong and stable leadership.

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Desiring strong and stable leadership is not propaganda. It's common sense.
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I'm not saying we shouldn't desire strong and stable leadership. I'm saying the Tories do not and will not provide that.
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And Corbyn will, presumably?

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Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

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I'm saying two things; we can't trust Blair, and Blair did pretty much nothing in line with Labour values in his time as PM.

Thankfully he is far too unpopular to ever return to politics.
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Id vote for blair
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So would I.

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Don't be another sheep who believes this Tory propaganda about "strong and stable leadership.

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Desiring strong and stable leadership is not propaganda. It's common sense.
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I'm not saying we shouldn't desire strong and stable leadership. I'm saying the Tories do not and will not provide that.
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And Corbyn will, presumably?
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I wont vote for corbyn.

He puts himself before his party

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posted 9 minutes ago
No, firstly policies have to be at least credible.

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His policies are credible (for the most part). He isn't not.

I'd vote for a united Labour Party. Unfortunately I cannot vote for this one.

It's a shame because I like Corbyn as a man. He's not a Prime Minister though. At least not until he has a proper mandate from his party.
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2 party votes not enough of a mandate? The biggest political party membership in the UK have twice voted him as their man.

He isn't shiney like Blair but his policies are more genuine Labour.

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No, firstly policies have to be at least credible.

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His policies are credible (for the most part). He isn't not.

I'd vote for a united Labour Party. Unfortunately I cannot vote for this one.

It's a shame because I like Corbyn as a man. He's not a Prime Minister though. At least not until he has a proper mandate from his party.
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2 party votes not enough of a mandate? The biggest political party membership in the UK have twice voted him as their man.

He isn't shiney like Blair but his policies are more genuine Labour.

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But his MPs, who he would be relying on to vote through his policies, don't support him - in overwhelming numbers.

There's no certainty with Corbyn. That's the problem.

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Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

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I'm saying two things; we can't trust Blair, and Blair did pretty much nothing in line with Labour values in his time as PM.

Thankfully he is far too unpopular to ever return to politics.
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Id vote for blair
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So would I.
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I wouldnt vote for aaron rodgers though

comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
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I voted in the last article, but I doubt I'll remember every week so I'm leaving it at this.

I'll be voting Conservative and I very much doubt anything will happen to make me change my mind. Not because I'm wedded to some ideology of the rich getting richer, but because I believe them to be competent. (I say competent - technically Nicky Morgan is my MP so I'll be holding my nose in the process.)

I won't be voting Labour because they'd happily bankrupt the country without even realising they were doing it - and Corbyn quicker than most.
I won't be voting Liberal Democrat, although I still think they got a bad rap at the last election after doing a broadly good job. (IMO.)
I won't be voting UKIP, who have now served their purpose and can kindly do one as their remnants turn into the new BNP.
I won't be voting Green, despite rating environmental concerns quite high, since their faux moral high ground is nauseating and they'd blindly bankrupt the country just like Corbyn.

If that sounds uninspiring, indeed it is. But that's kind of the point. Competence and sense are not inspiring concepts. But they do keep the country and economy ticking as best it can.
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What bankrupted the country last time was the economic crash which caused by right-wing economic policy of de-regulating the banks. Do you know who called for even more de-regulation before the crash?
The Tories.

Labour's plans are to borrow and invest. And the way economics works is when you invest, you get more back, and you can pay off the money you borrowed. An economy built on cuts is not sustainable.

Did you know that the Tories have borrowed more in 7 years than Labour did in 13?

Did you also know that they've moved the goalposts for when they are going to cut the deficit twice already?

Did you know that they have added more to the national debt than all Labour governments in history combined?

The idea that the Tories are the party of economic competence is absurd.

Food for thought.

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Yes, some leader.

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So we can't trust Labour, that's what you're saying?

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I'm saying two things; we can't trust Blair, and Blair did pretty much nothing in line with Labour values in his time as PM.

Thankfully he is far too unpopular to ever return to politics.
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Id vote for blair
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So would I.
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I wouldnt vote for aaron rodgers though
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...and that lack of good judgement is why May shouldn't give you another referendum

Lambeau

That's the tail wagging the dog.

MPs are meant to represent the Party, a majority vote for the Party not the party representative, I know what you're saying but they are the problem.