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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 33 seconds ago
I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
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I already said the Tories initiated it due to UKIP... the vote itself was down to the general public though.
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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and Scotland voted for the Tory government?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-scotland-32621862
1 Tory MP in Scotland in 2010.
You can also see how when Labour aligned themselves with the Tory party in 2014 how it killed them as a party in Scotland, from 41 mps to 1.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 33 seconds ago
I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
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I already said the Tories initiated it due to UKIP... the vote itself was down to the general public though.
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indeed, the Tory party put their own reelection above the interests of the nation because they were afraid of UKIP.
Party before country and then they claim to be patriotic!
shambles as are their most ardent cheerleaders.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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Nah. The Tories had nothing to do with it mate. Brexit just happened. No one put it in place. No one is to blame.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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Nah. The Tories had nothing to do with it mate. Brexit just happened. No one put it in place. No one is to blame. Sat Nav is right, he always is but I refuse to bend the knee
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What Tam said ^^^^
You're just annoyed you lost
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
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Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 33 seconds ago
I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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Is London one of the kingdoms in the U.K.? A principality? A province?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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You're just annoyed you lost
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I know this is a football forum but we lost a lot more than a popularity contest
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Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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posted 29 seconds ago
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Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
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posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
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Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
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You're the one switching between 'they' and 'he'.
The Conservative party didn't have an official position on Brexit, so party members lead the campaign on both sides. Yet you have decided that they backed remain fully because Cameron did.
- A conservative PM proposed and passed the bill for there to be an EU referendum with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM triggered article 50 with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM campaigned on a slogan of “get brexit done” with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM proposed the EU withdrawal act with the support of the Conservative party and passed that into law
What does (and I paraphrase) the tories didn’t put brexit into place mean in the context of the above?
https://twitter.com/LadyNoo22/status/1453086833689124871?t=BRQNQ8iA9n66FG55Sd71yQ&s=19
Sigh
A serving Metropolitan Police officer, Adam Zaman, has been charged with rape
The Met said that the charge is related to an alleged incident in the City of London on Sunday evening. He was arrested on Monday.
Tory Met
https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1453377938775281672?t=4hjmXOzdzWuJcMcFEmDhNQ&s=19
Her fault for using the S word?
Hartlepool has the highest council tax as a proportion of living costs, with a Band D bill costing 35% of the average annual rent, according to @rightmove
The areas where council tax is cheapest vs outgoings are in the South – and mostly in London
Oh dear Hartlepool, you were warned
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 18 minutes ago
Hartlepool has the highest council tax as a proportion of living costs, with a Band D bill costing 35% of the average annual rent, according to @rightmove
The areas where council tax is cheapest vs outgoings are in the South – and mostly in London
Oh dear Hartlepool, you were warned
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Need to see more breakdowns of this but Hartlepoole has one of the lowest median rent costs in England.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/housing/bulletins/privaterentalmarketsummarystatisticsinengland/april2019tomarch2020
"he lowest median montly rent in England was £420 in Kingston upon Hull (Yorkshire and The Humber). The highest median monthly rent in Yorkshire and The Humber was shared by York and Harrogate (£750).
For comparison, the region with the lowest median monthly rent in England was the North East, where the median monthly rent was £495. The local authority with the highest median monthly rent in the North East was in Newcastle upon Tyne (£650). The lowest median monthly rent was shared by County Durham, Darlington and Hartlepool (£450)."
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Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
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You're the one switching between 'they' and 'he'.
The Conservative party didn't have an official position on Brexit, so party members lead the campaign on both sides. Yet you have decided that they backed remain fully because Cameron did.
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The reverse could be said mate. You decided that they put it in place because they delivered it after the referendum result came in with leave.
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
posted on 27/10/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
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I already said the Tories initiated it due to UKIP... the vote itself was down to the general public though.
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I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
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But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
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The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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and Scotland voted for the Tory government?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-scotland-32621862
1 Tory MP in Scotland in 2010.
You can also see how when Labour aligned themselves with the Tory party in 2014 how it killed them as a party in Scotland, from 41 mps to 1.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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posted 33 seconds ago
I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
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If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
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indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
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What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
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Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
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Probably will but that wasn't the point
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I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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if the want one possibly.
2 countries in the UK voted to reamin and 2 voted to leave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The vote was UK wide and just not based on individual sections of the UK.
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which is a perfect example as to why Scotland should be an independent country.
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Cameron announced in 2013 that a referendum would happen if the tories got a majority. It was always a chance the UK may have left the EU
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But this isn't a Tory brexit
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I already said the Tories initiated it due to UKIP... the vote itself was down to the general public though.
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indeed, the Tory party put their own reelection above the interests of the nation because they were afraid of UKIP.
Party before country and then they claim to be patriotic!
shambles as are their most ardent cheerleaders.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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Nah. The Tories had nothing to do with it mate. Brexit just happened. No one put it in place. No one is to blame.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 4 minutes ago
Look noone wants to relitigate the referendum AGAIN
But if you want to use this thread as an example to how brexit is going look to how the biggest Leave voices on here have left and the Tories on here are saying it was nothing to do with them
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Yes misrepresentation of what people have said sounds about right.
It’s quite simple - I’m generally a Conservatives voter although current lot are pushing it, I’ll probably not vote in the next election. I voted remain and my party were leading the remain campaign.
It wasn’t a party politics thing, it was a leave / remain thing.
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Haven't misrepresented anyone
You should always vote (but never Tory)
"Your party" (that you generally vote for) was split on the campaign, if they led the remain campaign they utterly utterly facked it and someone needs to tell the ERG they didn't get the memo
It was entirely party politics, it was internal party politics from the Tory party and 5 years later the country is in the worst place I (and likely you) have ever seen it
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Nah. The Tories had nothing to do with it mate. Brexit just happened. No one put it in place. No one is to blame. Sat Nav is right, he always is but I refuse to bend the knee
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What Tam said ^^^^
posted on 27/10/21
You're just annoyed you lost
posted on 27/10/21
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
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posted about a minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 33 seconds ago
I can't believe people are genuinely trying to absolve this government of Brexit responsibility.
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That’s different to putting it in place. It’s definitely Cameron’s fault but putting it in place implies a deliberate act to leave.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If Johnson and his crew were in charge at the time, then fine. But Cameron and his crew were fully remain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
indeed, the vote should never have gone ahead as it was against the best interests of the country.
however with the Tory party starting to split with a lot of voters drifting to UKIP Cameron had to offer this to save the Party.
party before country as it always is with the heavily Russain funded Tory party
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What next ? Scotland to never get another referendum because its such a massive and life changing choice?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indy ref 2 will be happening soon enough.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably will but that wasn't the point
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would say Scotland being removed from the EU despite voting remain is enough to warrant a vote on the constitutional issue. can even add in the lies and broken promises from 2014
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But the UK as a whole voted to leave... should London get a referendum too?
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Is London one of the kingdoms in the U.K.? A principality? A province?
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by De Gea's Legs (U14210)
posted 9 minutes ago
You're just annoyed you lost
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I know this is a football forum but we lost a lot more than a popularity contest
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
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You're the one switching between 'they' and 'he'.
The Conservative party didn't have an official position on Brexit, so party members lead the campaign on both sides. Yet you have decided that they backed remain fully because Cameron did.
posted on 27/10/21
- A conservative PM proposed and passed the bill for there to be an EU referendum with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM triggered article 50 with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM campaigned on a slogan of “get brexit done” with the support of the Conservative party
- A conservative PM proposed the EU withdrawal act with the support of the Conservative party and passed that into law
What does (and I paraphrase) the tories didn’t put brexit into place mean in the context of the above?
posted on 27/10/21
https://twitter.com/LadyNoo22/status/1453086833689124871?t=BRQNQ8iA9n66FG55Sd71yQ&s=19
Sigh
posted on 27/10/21
A serving Metropolitan Police officer, Adam Zaman, has been charged with rape
The Met said that the charge is related to an alleged incident in the City of London on Sunday evening. He was arrested on Monday.
Tory Met
posted on 27/10/21
https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1453377938775281672?t=4hjmXOzdzWuJcMcFEmDhNQ&s=19
Her fault for using the S word?
posted on 27/10/21
Hartlepool has the highest council tax as a proportion of living costs, with a Band D bill costing 35% of the average annual rent, according to @rightmove
The areas where council tax is cheapest vs outgoings are in the South – and mostly in London
Oh dear Hartlepool, you were warned
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 18 minutes ago
Hartlepool has the highest council tax as a proportion of living costs, with a Band D bill costing 35% of the average annual rent, according to @rightmove
The areas where council tax is cheapest vs outgoings are in the South – and mostly in London
Oh dear Hartlepool, you were warned
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Need to see more breakdowns of this but Hartlepoole has one of the lowest median rent costs in England.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/housing/bulletins/privaterentalmarketsummarystatisticsinengland/april2019tomarch2020
"he lowest median montly rent in England was £420 in Kingston upon Hull (Yorkshire and The Humber). The highest median monthly rent in Yorkshire and The Humber was shared by York and Harrogate (£750).
For comparison, the region with the lowest median monthly rent in England was the North East, where the median monthly rent was £495. The local authority with the highest median monthly rent in the North East was in Newcastle upon Tyne (£650). The lowest median monthly rent was shared by County Durham, Darlington and Hartlepool (£450)."
posted on 27/10/21
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Golf Club Defecator (U3126)
posted less than a minute ago
Think the problem (as is playing out, and will only get worse) is the Conservative's interpretation of the Ref result.
They (and in particular Johnson) chose to have the most distant relationship with the EU as they could (sovereignty innit).
So in 'taking back control' of many aspects of the economy, the upshot is a raft of rigorous trade barriers where there were none. This is 100% at the door of the Tories; caveated by a weak opposition trying to cling on to lost seats.
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They didn't put that in place though.
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They didn’t - they put the referendum in place and campaigned against it and the public voted leave. He then resigned after the result.
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I think you're confusing a person with a political party.
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I think you are
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You're the one switching between 'they' and 'he'.
The Conservative party didn't have an official position on Brexit, so party members lead the campaign on both sides. Yet you have decided that they backed remain fully because Cameron did.
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The reverse could be said mate. You decided that they put it in place because they delivered it after the referendum result came in with leave.
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